A New Dawn Bug Reports and Feedback

[traxantes]

Installed Components:
{Required Files} {Military Civics} {Beautification Project} {Castle Improvements} {Ice Breaker} {Ideology Civics} Meteorology {Realistic Diplomacy} {Seafaring } {Resource Refinement} {War Prizes} Arctic {Larger Cities} {Espionage Process} Forestation {Sea Tunnels} Terraforming {Lead From Behind} {Event Images} Education Sports NIMBY {Civic Buildings} {No Storms} {Early Buildings} ANM {Historical Wonders} Formations {Mega Civ Patch} {Better RoM} Domestic Withdraw Depletion Farming Guilds {Modern Corporations} {Coal UI} {Deep-Red Interface} {Warriors of God} {Improved Artwork} {Water Mod} {Airbase Range} {Civic Diplomacy} Transportation {Misc Buildings} {Battlefield Promotions} Health {Better Air Interception} Research Wilderness {Trading Posts} {Spy Satellites} Tactics

Install Type:
Custom

Version:
1.72

Install Directory:
J:\Games\Civilization IV\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rise of Mankind

Windows Version:
WinXP

 

[Afforess]

Looking into it Traxantes.

 

[Afforess]

Traxantes, I loaded your save fine, but I didn't see it crash. I played for ten turns without any problems.

 

[traxantes]

isn't that the way? Thanks for looking into it. The game just starts getting exciting, when there are regular (every 2 or so turns) crashes!!

 

[Afforess]

isn't that the way? Thanks for looking into it. The game just starts getting exciting, when there are regular (every 2 or so turns) crashes!!

I didn't see it crash at all. However, sometimes when the diplomacy screen comes it, the game lags a bit, so it could appear that it froze up. If it is crashing a lot, it might have to do more with your computer specs and not the mod.

 

[traxantes]

OK, my specs are:
AMD 64X2 Dual CP 5000+
2.61 GHz, 3.25 Gb Ram
XP SP2
NVIDIA GeForce 7300SE 512Mb

It seems to be pretty much crashing regularly (2-3 turns), and occasionally freezing (though not on a diplomacy screen - it only does it between turns).

 

[Afforess]

It seems to be pretty much crashing regularly (2-3 turns), and occasionally freezing (though not on a diplomacy screen - it only does it between turns).

Your specs are fine. What are the error messages on the crash. Is it just the "windows has encountered an error" message, or does the game give you a message before it crashes?

 

[scribbler]

Program Files and Program Files (x86) - on 64bit Systems - are a special case, write access is restricted, even if the login-user is Admin.

Best solution is to set the security in the usersettings directory in RoM to allow access to everyone.

 

[traxantes]

Your specs are fine. What are the error messages on the crash. Is it just the "windows has encountered an error" message, or does the game give you a message before it crashes?

Yes, windows has encountered an error.

 

[Afforess]

Yes, windows has encountered an error.

Quick question, why are you using XP SP2, not 3? It probably has no relevance, just curious.

Now, the real question, does RoM alone crash often, or just RoM & AND?

 

[Jozef]

Good day. For some reason, I get CTD after an hour or more of playing.
Playing custom game, huge map, with number of civilization limited to 22, usual options of The New Dawn.

System info: WinXp, 2GB Ram. Usually play this kind of custom games on huge maps without any problem.

Tried to delete and reinstall both Rom and The New Dawn, but it didn't help - i just got CTD a little bit later (instead before finding out a Wheel, CTD just before finding out Dualism).

Please see the attached save file (the next turn CTD happens).

 

[scribbler]

I try not to install anything to progam files (x86) as it restricts the user too much. It's a pain that nearly all software defaults to that location

Best thing to do with all of your exe programmes is to right click on the icon, go to properties and select the shortcut tab, click advanced then check the box saying run as administrator apply and ok. This should remove any problems that relate to write and security issues.

Also i dont use UAC as it gave me too many problems and watch out for security essentials if you use it as it has even stopped me from streaming vids now.

I like how my computer tells ME what I can and can't do. I have to ask IT's permission, what a great relationship we have

Ok, please disregard this advice.

Please, for the love of God, disregard this advice.

Do you know how many times I've had to deal with computers that were corrupted due to users being too sure of themselves? Do you know how much of Windows Vista/7 (and just about any modern operating system's) security is dependent on programs NOT running as administrator?

No? Then please don't take this advice.

You'll save yourself a bunch of headaches down the road (then you'll have plenty of time for retrospect, nach). I say this as someone that fixes computers and is currently, as we speak, cleaning out a computer that had been turned into a zombie by a "freeware" game that had been installed by a client's daughter who had been given admin privileges (not that the client herself is much use, as she's a complete ignoramus about computers too - but at least she knows it and readily admits it).

As I said in an earlier post, just changing the security on the Usersettings directory in the RoM folder is the safest, best, really, way of allowing you to handle mods without compromising your system. If you reinstall the mod often, however, you're better off changing the security on the mods folder. PM me if you want instructions on doing so.

Unless you happen to be in the west-side of the Toronto (Ontario, Canada) area. Then you can PM after your computer gets malwared to death/zombified/whatever. I charge by the hour, two hours minimum.

 

[scribbler]

Quick question, why are you using XP SP2, not 3? It probably has no relevance, just curious.

Now, the real question, does RoM alone crash often, or just RoM & AND?

Actually, this is an important question to ask when providing support. It tells you a few things about traxantes.

One, unless traxantes has SP2 because of compatibility issues with a proprietary program that won't work with SP3, traxantes can't be a very knowledgeable user (although he/she may think he/she's a knowledgeable user). Not a bad thing - not everyone can or needs to be super computer savvy.

But two, the worse thing, is that as a non-tech-savvy user, the chance that traxantes has other computer problems is high. It's even likely that behavior that traxantes attributes to something else is in fact malware/adware/zombification. Mind you, it could also be a faulty power supply, not enough air in the case, etc. <latino voice>Let me tell you compatre, computers are frickin-complicated.</latino voice>

Most of the XP computers that I say are not upgraded to SP3. Sometimes because at some point the updater was corrupted and now it won't even install SP3. But the users just keep on trucking, and assume all the problems they have are normal.

So it's a very relevant question.

 

[Afforess]

Wow Scribbler, I should put you in charge of this thread... except that you probably don't want to do your real job for free, lol...

I suspect Traxantes has other issues than just my mod, since I could load his save, and play it just fine. Users who experience crashes every 2-3 turns have some other underlying problem, as I can go for 1000's of turns without any crashes.

 

[Jozef]

Afforess, could you also load and play my savefile, that i posted few posts earlier?

Since i played this kind of custom games without any problems on earlier versions of Rom and The New Dawn, i don't think that crashes happen due to some other problems with my computer or system.

 

[ssgts]

My system is windows 7 ultimate 64bit , everything goes fine. lol

 

[Afforess]

Afforess, could you also load and play my savefile, that i posted few posts earlier?

Since i played this kind of custom games without any problems on earlier versions of Rom and The New Dawn, i don't think that crashes happen due to some other problems with my computer or system.

Sorry, I missed your post. Could you post your A New Dawn.log file as well? I can't load your save without it. It can be found in your main Rise of Mankind folder.

 

[scribbler]

Wow Scribbler, I should put you in charge of this thread... except that you probably don't want to do your real job for free, lol...

I suspect Traxantes has other issues than just my mod, since I could load his save, and play it just fine. Users who experience crashes every 2-3 turns have some other underlying problem, as I can go for 1000's of turns without any crashes.

Well, when I'm available I'll try to help where I can, but I'm available off and on. I'm also not that much of a civ expert - my job means I'm a general troubleshooter (which mostly means I fix things after clients/users make a mess).

But to help, mind if I ask what machine you're running the game on? What OS version? Would help to setup a baseline for when the modmod works fine.

 

[traxantes]

@afforess: This is not typical behaviour for my pc, either playing Civ or doing anything else. I played ROM 2.9 for several hours without any ctd - the crashes only started with AND. I had experienced this sort of problem previously (usually with new versions of ROM and/or AND, though note, not with 2.9!), and things were eventually sorted with patches.
Re sp3 - no reason, I just haven't seen the need for it.
@scribbler: if I were a tech-savvy user (whatever is meant by that phrase) I might not see fit to post my ctd problems here. Do you have any useful advice to offer on my problems?

 

[Jozef]

Afforess, here is the log file, as you asked:

Installed Components:
{Required Files} {Military Civics} {Beautification Project} {Castle Improvements} {Ice Breaker} Meteorology {Realistic Diplomacy} {Seafaring } {War Prizes} Arctic {Larger Cities} {Espionage Process} Forestation {Sea Tunnels} Terraforming {Lead From Behind} {Event Images} Sports {Civic Buildings} {Early Buildings} ANM {Historical Wonders} {Mega Civ Patch} {Better RoM} Withdraw Guilds {Modern Corporations} {Improved Artwork} {Airbase Range} {Civic Diplomacy} {Battlefield Promotions} {Better Air Interception} {Trading Posts} {Spy Satellites}

Install Type:
Standard

Version:
1.72

Install Directory:
C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rise of Mankind

Windows Version:
WinXP