Activists protest against chess as 'racist'

Is chess racist ?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 2.8%
  • No

    Votes: 96 89.7%
  • I'll elaborate further in the thread

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Giant radioactive chess-playing racist monkey

    Votes: 8 7.5%

  • Total voters
    107
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Hitro said:
This sounds like satire. But since having that meal with Stapel in London I have become more careful about that... ;)

Well, I don't know Hitro. Maybe I simply am a racist bastard. After all, when playing chess, I do prefer to be white!
 
Chess ia game in which you need 2 colours. Black and white are to contrasting colours. So, not rascist.
 
A quick search found this:

This game has its beginnings in 5th century India, has spawned numerous other games, and has kept pace with technology, thanks to Big Blue. Find out more.
Chess, the game of kings, has its origins appropriately shrouded in mystery. Nearly every country lays claim to having invented it, but no one can offer definitive proof. As a result, the game has a sprawling, international history that this piece will take but a cursory glance at.


Many consider Arabia in general, or Persia in particular, to be the most likely area. In Islamic countries, some effort had to be made to convince the church fathers that the game should not be banned along with other gambling games. Once Muhammad's father-in-law (the second caliph Omar (634-644))saw the benefit of the game for teaching military strategy, he gave it his approval, and the matter rested.


Others feel that India has the best claim to the origin of chess, in the form of the 6th century game Shaturanga, which in turn had its origin in another game, called Ashtapada. A checkered board containing 64 squares was used in Saturanga, had pieces representing infantry, boatmen, calvary, and rajah, and bearing much resemblance to the modern pawn, knights, rooks, and king. However, this was a game for four players (one at each corner of the board) and dice rolls decided turns. Hindu laws forbidding gambling led to the abolishment of the use of dice in play. As well, the game became two person, and some pieces were given different forms-all of these changes led to a 'new' game, called shatranj.


The game of shatranj traveled very far-to Persia, Arabia, and Byzantium. In Islamic countries, some effort had to be made to convince the church fathers that the game should not be banned along with other gambling games. Once Muhammad's father-in-law (the second caliph Omar (634-644))saw the benefit of the game for teaching military strategy, he gave it his approval, and the matter rested.


Although several theories exist as to how the game found its way to Europe, the most likely seems to be through the Crusaders, who brought the game home with them after their struggles. Their version of the game (mysteriously without the checkered board, which would return) would remain popular for about 400 years, and contained a king, prime minister, elephant, war horse, ruhk, and pawn. Interesting the pawn could be promoted to prime minister rank if it were able to completely cross the board.


Gradual changes in the role of different pieces and new rules were added until the game became the one we know today. The first complete analysis of the modern game was written in 1749 by Francois-Andre Danican Philidor.


The shape of the pieces themselves also evolved. The very rich used rather impractical crafted and decorated pieces, while poorer players tended to simply use height as a guide as to which piece was which. However, John Jacques of London solved this problem in 1847 by simple representation that included such guides as a crown for the king, and a miter for a bishop, while still incorporating different heights for the pieces. This design was produced by Harold Staunton, and remains the standard for chess pieces today. The first international tournament took place in London only a few years later, in 1851, and was won by German Adolf Anderssen.


What about the rest of the world? In China, a version of chess (possibly derived from Shatranj, possibly not), is played called Xiang Qi. The pieces in this game are disks with letters drawn on them, and the game is played not in the middle of the board, but largely on its sides. The object is to move from the fortress across the river. The General, much like the European king, cannot however, move from his own fortress. The other pieces represent the mandarins, elephants, horsemen, chariots, cannons, and soldiers. Interestingly, this game does not allow the concept of 'stalemate'; once a player can no longer move, he has lost the game.


In Japan, the game of choice is Shogi, played with identical sets of wooden pieces with Japanese lettering on them. Pieces can be promoted and/or allowed back on the board once taken, creating a much different game than European chess.


Similarly, in Burma, the game of sittuyin is complicated by the starting positions of the pieces changing, depending on the desires of the players.


Chess' most recent movement has been into the realm of computers. The rules of play early intrigued computer scientists-MIT wrote the first chess program in 1957. Although it took many more years for the program to be written that could beat a chess master, 1997 saw the defeat of Kasporov to IBM's Deep Blue 2.
 
It's not much of me to make just short statements, but I don't feel I need to elaborate to call this plain stupid. :lol:
 
Ha! 2 people actually voted yes. And they were probably (hopefully) kidding around. Heck, some chess sets aren't black and white, just 2 different colors. Black and White are just the prettiest and most contrasting. Anyone who complains it's "racist" just wants attention, or is stirring up trouble for fun. Or needs a lobotomy.
 
I AM CALLING YOU OUT!

WHERE DID YOU HEAR THIS AND WHERE IS YOUR LINK?

THIS IS ACTUALLY A LINE FORM ONE OF CHRIS ROCK'S STAND UP ROUTINE.

I googled them and they are an old 60's anti-racism coalition.

Where did you hear this, and where is your proof?

http://www.clean-funnies.com/html/f299.htm

is just a right wing joke page.

There is a small story with a guy who "inevented" a new chess game... but I found nothing correlating this group and it claiming chess is racist. In fact, you will find they focus mostly on international affairs.
 
I read or someone told me once that checkmate is a corruption of the Arabic or Persian for "the king is dead".
My chessboard and pieces are completely manky. I have snot and turd coloured pieces. I should really clean it before I invite someone to play me again. But then again, maybe not, it does seem to give me a sort of home field advantage.
 
Syterion said:
At high levels of chess if you are black you are very happy with a draw.

No, in fact most of the games on high level are effectively...draw, i dont have the statistic on hand but i will search if you doubt.

The initial position is almost a perfect equilibrium, white only have half a tempo adventage.
 
Hmm, In eightball pool you have the white ball shooting all colored, and in the end the black ball into the hole. Besides, the white has no number, but the black one has eight, also the eternity symbol in math flipped on the side, and two times 8 is 88, which means.... ouch too many conspiracy theories for today :)
 
Yea, chess needs to learn a lesson or two from the Legos playbook. In Legos, pieces of all colors can join together to build something bigger and stronger than itself. We need to learn from Legos and not chess, we must unite and not try to kill each other.
 
samildanach said:
I read or someone told me once that checkmate is a corruption of the Arabic or Persian for "the king is dead".
"Shah mat".

The word "chess" is also a corruption of shah, via Old French.
 
Chinese chess is less racist. It's red (Native American) vs. green (Something else)

Then again red could be communist.
 
The communists would never have such a heirarchial structure! They'd all be called comrade! And most Greens are communists, I've been told.
 
Aphex_Twin said:
Playing white allows you to develop faster and the better players prefer that colour.
Urgh!

This happens a lot on this board; more so than most other communities: My posts said many players ... I never posted my opinion!

I used to play at a very high level, and I really don't care to discuss tactics. Colour doesn't much matter, I win either way ;)
 
Tomoyo said:
Chinese chess is less racist. It's red (Native American) vs. green (Something else)

Then again red could be communist.
Communists vs. Greens! :eek:

That's a recipe for disaster. Well, dunno about the greens in other countries, but they are fairly socialist here.
 
stormbind said:
I used to play at a very high level, and I really don't care to discuss tactics. Colour doesn't much matter, I win either way ;)
What's your approx. FIDE rating?
 
Green is supposed to be for the American dollar, hence greenbacks. Red Communism versus Green Capitolism.

Well, okay it may not be true, but it sounded really good. Today, in America, it only needs to sound good for people to believe it, so there!
 
I weep for the human condition.
 
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