Altered Maps ΙΓ: To make a map larger than what it maps.

[Heretic_Cata]

That's got to be one of the worst maps i've seen recently.

 

[Tee Kay]

Curiously, had this proposal below actually been implemented:

We'd avoid this mess.

We'd have:
A predominantly Shia-Christian state in the Blue Zone (Syria)
A predominantly Shia Arab state in the Red Zone (Iraq)
And a predominantly Sunni Arab state in A Zone (Jazira)

With the B Zone split between Jazira and Hashemite Jordan, with space for an independent Kurdistan in the northwest.

And Palestine shared among all its peoples under international rule.

 

[Joecoolyo]

Curiously, had this proposal below actually been implemented:

We'd avoid this mess.

We'd have:
A predominantly Shia-Christian state in the Blue Zone (Syria)
A predominantly Shia Arab state in the Red Zone (Iraq)
And a predominantly Sunni Arab state in A Zone (Jazira)

With the B Zone split between Jazira and Hashemite Jordan, with space for an independent Kurdistan in the northwest.

And Palestine shared among all its peoples under international rule.

How different were the ethnic and religious demographics a hundred years ago compared to today?

 

[Tee Kay]

How different were the ethnic and religious demographics a hundred years ago compared to today?

Main differences:
- Large Armenian minorities in the south and east of present-day Turkey
(although by 1916 the genocide has been going on for about a year)
- Majority Christian population in what is now Lebanon
- Jews are only small minority in present-day Israel-Palestine

 

[Takhisis]

It is here.

I gather that you mean the Czech equivalent, don't you? We're ever digressing from the main topic, but changing the name and doing nothing else is what the 'Mericans have done with their black people. First they became 'colo(u)red', then 'African-Americans'. But the problem remains unsolved. Calling someone what they are shouldn't be considered to be an insult. Maybe we could stop calling the Jews Jews…

As someone who lives near gypsies, I can say for one: at this point, what you would call a "gypsy language" is just really an amalgamation of most if not all Balkan languages (which, truthfully, could be said for the same).

Romani languages/dialects tend to partially merge with those of the countries where they live.

I don't think there is one single 'Gypsy language', or at least not one single centralised language variety.

How different were the ethnic and religious demographics a hundred years ago compared to today?

Main differences:
- Large Armenian minorities in the south and east of present-day Turkey
(although by 1916 the genocide has been going on for about a year)
- Majority Christian population in what is now Lebanon
- Jews are only small minority in present-day Israel-Palestine

More minorities, and a lot more Greeks throughout the Levant, Asia Minor and Egypt.

 

[gay_Aleks]

More curiously, where's Egypt? Or Oman and the UAE, I doubt they're problem-free...

 

[Little Faith]

This map map mainly concerns itself with new speculative state formations based on ethnic/sectarian divisions in present day fragile nations.

Egypt's political problems are not of ethnic character, and even if it has a couple of revolutions in store for it it'll still retain it's territorial integrity.

 

[Tee Kay]

Very large maps

Middle Eastern ethnolinguistic groups

Spoiler :

Middle Eastern historical cultural regions

Spoiler :

 

[Borachio]

The complexity of that linguistic map is bordering on that of geology maps, imo.

 

[Masada]

That second map is hideous.

 

[Tee Kay]

That second map is hideous.

I think that's a far too generous assessment.

 

[cybrxkhan]

Wonderful maps, though indeed the second one looks atrocious.

 

[gay_Aleks]

I tried to load up the second map. Guess what, my browser crashed. Which I guess says a thing or two about the complexity the Middle East is.

Or how crappy my computer is..

 

[cybrxkhan]

I tried to load up the second map. Guess what, my browser crashed. Which I guess says a thing or two about the complexity the Middle East is.

Or how crappy my computer is..

My tablet does the reverse - the first map just doesn't load, the second one does.

 

[Tee Kay]

I tried to load up the second map. Guess what, my browser crashed. Which I guess says a thing or two about the complexity the Middle East is.

Or how crappy my computer is..

Or how maybe the map maker should have made a smaller map

 

[Masada]

Both of them were bad. But the second one was... special.

 

[Civ'ed]

Is there any specific reason for azerbaijan not being within azerbaijan?

 

[gay_Aleks]

Also..Piedmont? What?

 

[Tee Kay]

Also..Piedmont? What?

The word means "foothills". Specifically, the foothills of Cisalpine Gaul, and later also used to refer to the Appalachian foothills.

This is the first time I've seen it used in a Middle Eastern context; I'm guessing the author(s) of the map identified such regions as having their own distinctive cultures, influenced by geography. Or something like that. And "piedmont" sounds more romantic than "highland culture".

 

[Chukchi Husky]

And "piedmont" sounds more romantic than "highland culture".

I don't think that "Piedmonter" works in the same way.