Ann Coulter

[Formaldehyde]

so some crazy chick was not allowed to hold a speech at some university because people protested against it?

Actually, no. It was canceled because her "bodyguards" thought it was too "dangerous"...

 

[MobBoss]

Are you saying that threatening violence is not protected speech? If so I've got some Republicans/tea partiers you can talk to.

No, I am pretty sure it isnt. Regardless of the political affliation of those inciting violence.

And Mark, its not like the left hasnt had its share of that too.

 

[warpus]

Yeah, she was at the University where I work on Monday, and told some Muslim student that she should "ride a camel" instead of flying, cause Muslims shouldn't be allowed on planes.

I knew she was coming, but didn't know when.. totally missed her appearance here.. It wasn't really advertised around campus - her arrival was basically kinda ignored by most people I think.

And sure, bigoted idiots should be allowed to speak and stuff, but I'm not sure what idiots here on campus thought it'd be worth anyone's time giving Ann Coulter the time and space to spread her hate speech. A much more acceptable venue for her to spread her message would be downtown on a street corner.

I believe it was the "ride a camel" comment that annoyed a lot of people and resulted in over a thousand coming out in protest in Ottawa. We don't appreciate hate speech here in Canada, and will speak up if you come here and try spreading any hateful message like that.

I also think it's kinda funny how Coulter is attempting to spin this. SHE cancelled her appearance in Ottawa, nobody else. There was no violence, nor any threats of violence - that's just her trying to spin this thing to give her more media exposure, the attention whore that she is.

 

[dirtyparrot]

No, the ones that threatenend violence.

I recall reading anything mentioning the threat of violence from anyone other than her camp. From what I've read, the students protested, she couldn't get through to the auditorium that she was supposed to talk at, and so they cancelled the event. I have an inkling that the tea partiers were way worse behaved than the students.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Since the column was brought up, I mosied over and look a column on Ottowa.

http://www.anncoulter.com/

Since arriving in Canada I've been accused of thought crimes, threatened with criminal prosecution for speeches I hadn't yet given, and denounced on the floor of the Parliament (which was nice because that one was on my "bucket list").

Posters advertising my speech have been officially banned, while posters denouncing me are plastered all over the University of Ottawa campus. Elected officials have been prohibited from attending my speeches. Also, the local clothing stores are fresh out of brown shirts.

Welcome to Canada!

The provost of the University of Ottawa, average student IQ: 0, wrote to me -- widely disseminating his letter to at least a half-dozen intermediaries before it reached me -- in advance of my visit in order to recommend that I familiarize myself with Canada's criminal laws regarding hate speech.

This marks the first time I've ever gotten hate mail for something I might do in the future.

Apparently Canadian law forbids "promoting hatred against any identifiable group," which the provost, Francois A. Houle advised me, "would not only be considered inappropriate, but could in fact lead to criminal charges."

I was given no specific examples of what words and phrases I couldn't use, but I take it I'm not supposed to say, "F--- you, Francois."

While it was a relief to know that it is still permissible in Canada to promote hatred against unidentifiable groups, upon reading Francois' letter, I suddenly realized that I had just been the victim of a hate crime! And it was committed by Francois A. Houle (French for "Frank A. Hole").

What other speakers get a warning not to promote hatred? Did Francois A. Houle send a similarly worded letter to Israel-hater Omar Barghouti before he spoke last year at U of Ottawa? ("Ottawa": Indian for "Land of the Bed-Wetters.")

How about Angela Davis, Communist Party member and former Black Panther who spoke at the University of Zero just last month?

Or do only conservatives get letters admonishing them to be civil? Or -- my suspicion -- is it only conservative women who fuel Francois' rage?

How about sending a letter to all Muslim speakers advising them to please bathe once a week while in Canada? Would that constitute a hate crime?

I'm sure Canada's Human Rights Commission will get to the bottom of Francois' strange warning to me, inasmuch as I will be filing a complaint with that august body, so I expect they will be reviewing every letter the university has sent to other speakers prior to their speeches to see if any of them were threatened with criminal prosecution.

Both writer Mark Steyn and editor Ezra Levant have been investigated by the Human Rights Commission for promoting hatred toward Muslims.

Levant's alleged crime was to reprint the cartoons of Mohammed originally published in a Danish newspaper, leading practitioners of the Religion of Peace to engage in murderous violence across the globe. Steyn's alleged crime was to publish an excerpt of his book, "America Alone" in Maclean's magazine, in which he jauntily described Muslims as "hot for jihad."

Both of them also flew jet airliners full of passengers into skyscrapers in lower Manhattan, resulting in thousands of deaths. No, wait -- that was somebody else.

Curiously, however, there was no evidence that either the cartoons or the column did, in fact, incite hatred toward Muslims -- nor was there the remotest possibility that they would.

By contrast, conservative speakers are regularly subjected to violent attacks on college campuses. Bill Kristol, Pat Buchanan, David Horowitz and I have all been the targets of infamous campus attacks.

That's why the Clare Boothe Luce Policy Institute (a sponsor of my Canada speeches) and the Young America's Foundation (a sponsor of many of my college speeches) don't send conservatives to college campuses without a bodyguard.

You'd have to be a real A-Houle not to anticipate that accusing a conservative of "promoting hatred" prior to her arrival on a college campus would in actuality -- not in liberal fantasies of terrified Muslims cowering in terror of Mark Steyn readers -- incite real-world violence toward the conservative.

The university itself acknowledged that Francois' letter was likely to provoke violence against me by demanding -- long after my speech was scheduled, but immediately after Francois disseminated his letter -- that my sponsors pony up more than $1,200 for extra security.

Also following Francois' letter, the Ottawa University Student Federation met for 7 1/2 hours to hammer out a series of resolutions denouncing me. The resolutions included:

"Whereas Ann Coulter is a hateful woman;

"Whereas she has made hateful comments against GLBTQ, Muslims, Jews and women;

"Whereas she violates an unwritten code of 'positive-space';

"Be it resolved that the SFUO express its disapproval of having Ann Coulter speak at the University of Ottawa."

At least the students didn't waste 7 1/2 hours on something silly, like their studies.

At the risk of violating anyone's positive space, what happened to Canada? How did the country that gave us Jim Carrey, Mike Myers, Martin Short, Dan Aykroyd and Catherine O'Hara suddenly become a bunch of whining crybabies? [Me: You happened]

Want to hear my favorite Canadian joke? OK, here goes: Francois Houle! I never get tired of that one.

After Tuesday night, the hatred incited by Francois' letter is no longer theoretical. The police called off my speech when the auditorium was surrounded by thousands of rioting liberals -- screaming, blocking the entrance, throwing tables, demanding that my books be burned, and finally setting off the fire alarm.

Sadly, I missed the book burning because I never made it to the building.

But, reportedly, a Canadian crowd hasn't been this excited since they opened a new Tim Hortons. Local reporters couldn't make out what the crowd was chanting, but it was something about "Molson" and a "sled dog."

I've given more than 100 college speeches, and not once has one of my speeches been shut down at any point. Even the pie-throwing incident at the University of Arizona didn't break up the event. I said "Get them!", the college Republicans got them, and then I continued with my rambling, hate-filled diatribe -- I mean, my speech.

So we've run this experiment more than 100 times.

Only one college speech was ever met with so much mob violence that the police were forced to cancel it: The one that was preceded by a letter from the university provost accusing me of hate speech.

(To add insult to injury, Francois didn't even plan to attend my speech because Tuesday is his bikini wax night.)

If a university official's letter accusing a speaker of having a proclivity to commit speech crimes before she's given the speech -- which then leads to Facebook postings demanding that Ann Coulter be hurt, a massive riot and a police-ordered cancellation of the speech -- is not hate speech, then there is no such thing as hate speech.

Either Francois goes to jail or the Human Rights Commission is a hoax and a fraud.

 

[RedRalph]

What an idiot.

 

[warpus]

Heh, does she really not understand what "hate speech" is, or is she just playing dumb?

 

[Mark1031]

And Mark, its not like the left hasnt had its share of that too.

Well first you sound like my kids. They did it too ne ner ne ner nee ner. Second I don't think that is even true. So here is a summary of recent right wing intimidation and violence http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/right-wing-terrorism-stok_b_511787.html.

I await the links showing left wing equivalence on domestic front. No WTO protests please.

 

[illram]

The letter to her was kind of douchey, and honestly Canada's hate speech laws and it's Human Right's Commission are, IMHO, stupid. Anne Coulter amazingly has a point.

Let me be crystal clear: Anne Coulter is a knuckle-dragging bridge-dwelling troll of the highest order, and she deserves nothing but ridicule, but she also should be free to say her stupid bat$%&* crazy antics without fear of prosecution.

 

[Formaldehyde]

I thought the funniest part was the university provost sending her information about Canadian hate speech laws so she would be sure not to engage in criminal activity during her speech. Clearly, he should have simply recorded the speech in its entirety and sent a copy of it to the DA for analysis.

 

[Karalysia]

and then I continued with my rambling, hate-filled diatribe -- I mean, my speech.

At least she's open about it.

 

[Aegis]

I thought the funniest part was the university provost sending her information about Canadian hate speech laws so she would be sure not to engage in criminal activity during her speech. Clearly, he should have simply recorded the speech in its entirety and sent a copy of it to the DA for analysis.

I agree, he should have done the latter.

I also found it amusing that she believes that the only people who do not like her are all Liberal.

 

[MobBoss]

Well first you sound like my kids. They did it too ne ner ne ner nee ner. Second I don't think that is even true. So here is a summary of recent right wing intimidation and violence http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/right-wing-terrorism-stok_b_511787.html.

I await the links showing left wing equivalence on domestic front. No WTO protests please.

I am shocked that such a balanced and reputable news site like the Huffington Post would run such a story.

And why not WTO protests? Are you alleging those were tea partiers as well?

Anyway, here is a non-WTO protest that got violent. http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/violence-breaks.html

Over the next three days when the Republican National Convention was protested, liberal vandals destroyed business' glass windows, slashed tires, and even set fire to dumpsters to use as flaming battering rams against police. It resulted in over 800 arrests.

Has anything like that occurred at a teaparty event yet?

So much for your allegation that this doesnt happen via the left. It absolutely does, and is more often far more violent than anything occuring on the right.

 

[illram]

WTO protesters don't have major cable newsmedia outlets encouraging them, or providing helpful phone numbers and websites to aid them in organizing.

 

[otago]

Not too wise of Coulter in having so called body guards in Canada.
Did she really believe four body guards would save her from a kicking if those Canadian students wanted to give her one ?

Far smarter to go to Canada with no so called bodyguards.

 

[MobBoss]

WTO protesters don't have major cable newsmedia outlets encouraging them, or providing helpful phone numbers and websites to aid them in organizing.

Actually, a lot of those groups do have those things, minus maybe the 'major cable newsmedia' channels.

But like I said, when you see a teaparty involve looting, burnings, widespread vandalism, fights with cops and 800+ arrests or so....THEN we will compare notes.

Until then, the tea party is simply the diet coke of 'violent protest'. The left has that title wrapped up with little concern of losing the title anytime soon.

 

[Esckey]

Okay then

A: this is Canada we don't threaten to cause physical harm we threaten to pie them.
B: The protesters have the right to protest.
C: The old hag canceled her own appearnce, no one was stopping her.
D: Francoius letter was not a threat, it was a reminder. If I tell you that in Canada its 110 KMPH on the highway and not 110 MPH and if you drive that fast you will be pulled over and given a ticket, how is that a threat?
E: She IS an idiot.

 

[Tekee]

i don't like her because she seems so vile and full of hate...

yet on this occasion shes right.

how could you NOT like her? (of all people )
Point by point, she is always right. And she claimed this herself in an interview.
Plus, dosen't anybody think that Ann Coulter is actually one of the best comedians around?
Alternate forms of transport? Take a camel XD

Okay then

D: Francoius letter was not a threat, it was a reminder. If I tell you that in Canada its 110 KMPH on the highway and not 110 MPH and if you drive that fast you will be pulled over and given a ticket, how is that a threat?
E: She IS an idiot.

No it was a threat, he dosen't send that letter to all speakers at the university.
he sent it to her, saying that she will incite hatred for a speech she hasn't even given yet, all she said was that it would be on political correctness.
She sent it to her because she is an identifiable group, conservatives.
So he is discriminating against her because she is a member of an identifiable group!

 

[cardgame]

no, it was sent to her because she has a history of hate speech.

 

[JollyRoger]

Didn't know it was easy to get Coulter to shut his/her piehole.