Anti-Maidan

Nothing is more satisfying that ex post facto Russian whining about their latest foreign policy disaster.

1) Russia applies pressure to Ukraine not to sign the association agreement with the EU.

Q: Why? The treaty was not exclusive and wasn't harming Russian economic or trade interests in Ukraine.
A: Because Kremlin does not want a strong, economically successful AND democratic Ukraine that looks to the West instead of obediently waiting for instructions from Moscow. More generally, European Ukraine on the border with Russia would send a clear signal to the Russian opposition that it's time to end Putinism and follow suit. Economic interests are secondary, this is a matter of long term survival for the Russian autocratic regime - Ukraine is too big and too similar to Russia, i.e. potentially too dangerous as an example that there IS an alternative to Putin's post-soviet autocracy.

2) Russia urges Yanukovych and his government to use force against peaceful protesters. As a result, the crisis escalates into violence, then more violence, and eventually massacres in the streets.

3) The regime falls apart, Yanukovych is deposed, and Russia is looking for ways how to further destabilize the new regime, whilst toying with the idea of annexing the Russian-majority provinces.

4) Russia whines about being treated unfairly.

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:lmao:

My advice: grow the eff up.
As the old joke goes, in heaven the various nations do the thing the do best. But oh, the Russsians — the Russians fix the blame...
 
Why do pro-Russian arguments always sprinkle in liberal doses of belligerent homophobia?
From a literary point of view, it makes the choice between the two sides much more interesting and intriguing. Both sides are flawed. It's like Achaeans vs Trojans in Iliad, or Imperials vs. Stormcloaks in Skyrim.

Rite?
 
Or the Galactic Empire vs. the Ewoks?
 
You will only get Lenin's cult and ideology back taking his statues down, silly.

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CHERSONIANS IN ECUADOR

"No to vandals, No to Maidan!" "Boxer, rabbit*, Nazist to prison!" (* Yatsenyuk)

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CHERSON

Leaflet of the movement "STOP MAIDAN"

Written on the picture with Death figure: "Democracy" has came to our home... Wake up now!

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December. The sparse crowd you see at first are Maidanist. The big crowd are Anti-Maidanists.


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December. Meeting of the Party of Regions. Maidanists are protesting near it.


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December. More anti-Maidanists.


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Back to February. "Fascist shall not pass! Fascist shall not pass!" (self-organized civil defense)


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While I search for these images and videos, I stumble upon deleted ones (because of the "Copyright issues", yeah right, and deleted accounts), 404 pages and hacked sites (including those I knew and visited before the events).
 
Why do pro-Russian arguments always sprinkle in liberal doses of belligerent homophobia?

It is not homophobia, it is people resisting homosexual propaganda and depraved values being forced upon them. Homosexuals are, what, 0.001% of population, heh? Nobody cares about them! Nobody sees them. But most people got tired and angry from the Free Media™ and Western propaganda constantly force this topic.

And it is not Russian, well not only Russian. It is traditional. In the thread about Eurasian Union see the videos I posted, there's an anti-gay protest in Georgia.

Off-topic videos about it:

Spoiler :
Protests against gay-parades in Kiev last Spring.


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Simferopol.


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Lvov.


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And 2010. Lvov.


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"Lvov against homosexualism", "Homosexualism is a sin" (those are all in Ukrainian)


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Now tell me Lvov is "pro-Russian" :lol:
 
About 2% if the people that do science for a living rather than the publicists are to be believed.
 
It is not homophobia, it is people resisting homosexual propaganda and depraved values being forced upon them.

Citation/Proof needed. And it is homophobia, regardless of the excuses you make.
 
About 2% if the people that do science for a living rather than the publicists are to be believed.

I always thought it was more to the tune of 10%. Well there goes my plan for a Gay Marine Corps for offensive operations and woman-based Army for minor offensives and occupation roles.
 
Most I've read that didn't seem to have a political drum to beat come in around 2%. Some go as high as 4%, but they seemed to be stretching. I'm discounting the fellows with the anti-gay shock collars and whatnot that structure their arguments around the premise that gayness is learned and unlearned. They sometimes claim "gay culture" can skew ratios as high as 10%, which they support by cherry picking the hell out of the sampling.
 
That's a hilarious response by Aleksey_aka_al

It's not racism, it's people resisting black propaganda and depraved values. How many people are black anyway? Like 7?

Russia's pretty crappy about racism as well... if only Aleksey was as concerned about the neo-nazi's in his own country... alas.
 
It is off-topic regardless of the excuses you make.

It is heterophobia. People have right to defend themselves and their values. If Westerners want to build a homosexual society they should build it in their homeland countries, starting with USA, every state province of it. If homosexuals want to love each other the way they want they must not intervene to traditional culture of the majority, they should build their own. Marriage and family are heterosexual institutes. It is natural that way. Homosexuals must not intervene to these.

Heterosexuals will always be the majority. Homosexuals will always be insignificant minority. Making an insignificant thing significant, forcing urges of a minority onto majority is a way to divide people, to divide the majority. It is a technology of public control.
 
Russia's pretty crappy about racism as well... if only Aleksey was as concerned about the neo-nazi's in his own country... alas.

But we need Russian Ultranationalists. Otherwise we go back to shooting islamists in COD games :/
 
If Westerners want to build a homosexual society they should build it in their homeland countries, starting with USA, every state province of it.

How is not abusing, tolerating, giving homosexuals equal rights akin to building a "homosexual society"? You literally make no sense what so ever.
 
Russia's pretty crappy about racism as well... if only Aleksey was as concerned about the neo-nazi's in his own country... alas.

And I am concerned enough. But somehow other person get offended when he posts the video made by Russian Neo-Nazis, taking it seriously and calling it documentary, and I tell him who the authors really are: Neo-Nazis.

But we need Russian Ultranationalists. Otherwise we go back to shooting islamists in COD games :/

Now you have an army of West-Ukrainian ultranationalists who are there because of the historical revisionism considering WWII of the recent years, which is part of anti-Russian policy of the West.

While those Russian Neo-Nazis will never rise to even a tenth of this power. Especially, while there's a strong authority in Kremlin, such as Putin, who is more concerned with the interests of the majority (which Neo-Nazis were never part of here and never will be), than those 0,001% minorities.
 
Amazingly enough those offensively gay protests tend to go away when gays aren't on the beatin' end of the systemic bigotry stick. Then they go back to being that insignificant minority nobody really cares about. Except for the people that are annoyed that they can't wield the stick. Those people stay really honed in and fixated on that 2%. They might even look at an entire content that contains 2%ish gay people, just like home, and call it things like Gayroupe in order to demonize its social and cultural values. Since gays not being the target of inequity is deeply offensive to traditionalism? Am I getting that right?
 
Why do pro-Russian arguments always sprinkle in liberal doses of belligerent homophobia?
I wouldn't say "always", but sometimes it is, yes. It's just populism, a way to get easy popularity among conservatives.
 
You may burst with butthurt, but the majority here, in post-Soviet countries, and in the world laugh about homosexual orientation of Europe of recent years. And all the ugly things they do in the name of it. Like this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-favor-gender-specific-parent-1-parent-2.html (Education department eliminates the terms 'mother' and 'father' in favor of less gender-specific 'parent 1' and 'parent 2')

Surely, such "homophobic" attitude of the masses is undemocratic. Since Democracy™ is when minorities are above the majority.
 
"Eurointegration is a threat to traditional family"

It is? How?

But we need Russian Ultranationalists. Otherwise we go back to shooting islamists in COD games :/

How about we just stop making more COD?
 
You may burst with butthurt, but the majority here, in post-Soviet countries, and in the world laugh about homosexual orientation of Europe of recent years. And all the ugly things they do in the name of it. Like this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-favor-gender-specific-parent-1-parent-2.html (Education department eliminates the terms 'mother' and 'father' in favor of less gender-specific 'parent 1' and 'parent 2')

Surely, such "homophobic" attitude of the masses is undemocratic. Since Democracy™ is when minorities are above the majority.

[Citation Needed]

All you're doing is recycling boring old "Europeans are sissies" argument.
 
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