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That's why I always say, the key to meeting the right guy/girl, or at least to more sex, is to lower your standards.
I completely disagree. I think you should do exactly the opposite and hold out for the best.

I've seen (and been in) too many relationships where one or the other person has lowered their standards, or thought this was the best they could get/deserve. Were these people happy? No. Were they making the other person happy? No. Were they wasting their time and the other person's time. Yes. Did it end in tears? Yes.

Time is a non-renewable resource. Once you spend it, you can never get it back. Don't steal it from yourself or from anyone else. Never accept second-best.
 
I wasn't really being serious about relationships. I do think it's a good idea for sex though. I never really understood why some people are so squeamish about sleeping with the bus driver or the maintenance man and then complain they don't get laid enough. Then again this might be more relevant to gay men.
 
I wasn't really being serious about relationships. I do think it's a good idea for sex though. I never really understood why some people are so squeamish about sleeping with the bus driver or the maintenance man and then complain they don't get laid enough. Then again this might be more relevant to gay men.

Are there so few gay people? Or is this just a stereotype?
 
Stereotype?

Men want sex far more than women, and have much lower thresholds to engage in it.

Gay men who're not in a relationship live the dream all heterosexual men would want to live (relatively of course). ;)
 
Are there so few gay people? Or is this just a stereotype?

I'm not arguing that gay men should be sluts. I'm just saying I've met some shallow gay guys who act like anyone over 30 is too old or like they're just too good for half the men out there and this is sort of a reaction to that.
 
I'm not arguing that gay men should be sluts. I'm just saying I've met some shallow gay guys who act like anyone over 30 is too old or like they're just too good for half the men out there and this is sort of a reaction to that.
Some people just have... interesting standards! :D

Like the girl I approached in a club. After some conversation she told me that she's only interested in guys older than her and taller than her. I was drunk and decided we should measure who was tallest right then. I told her to take her shoes off since she had high heels, and then we were standing back to back next to the dance floor and getting one of her friends to measure who was tallest. :lol:

I was taller so I guess she was interested. She was a lousy lay though. Not that I was any better that time. But that's a very different story... :hmm:

I used my example because I know my situation best. From what I gather, many guys feel the same way. They're not socially stunted or anything, it's just that there aren't opportunities. And it gets worse the older you are. When you're around 18-20, it's easy to run into fine girls which are single. When you're 25, not so much so. So, if you miss the proper "launch window" because you had better things to do than getting stuck in a binding relationship, it becomes difficult later to change that.

In that case, I think dating services are in fact a pretty good option, because as you said, at least there you know where you stand and you can dispense with all that crap about not knowing what the other one expects. Might try that myself one day.
Unless Czechia is completely different from Germany and half the rest of Europe, your ideas about such a launch window sounds very inaccurate.

From 25 and up it gets more difficult to be single and remain friends with couples, that is true. But there's not really a lack of singles in their late twenties. And even if there was, there no reason not to go a couple of years up (for women) or down (for men) from your own. The opposite direction is also possible, though rarer.

From what little I can glean though, it seems you simply have problems escalating an established or budding friendship into a sexual relationship? If I can ask: Do you find yourself too quickly in the "friend zone", or are you actively being refused when you try to escalate things? How is your luck with simply asking a girl to go and hang out and do something?

Probably because you are going about it with the intention of scoring. Every non-ugly girl you talk to, your brain is like we can potentially have sex with it and it puts you in the mindset of a hunter. The trick is in telling your brain to buzz off and just be normal.
Being on the hunt doesn't matter. As I've said before, even when I'm in a relationship the first three thoughts going through my head when meeting a girl is:

1. Would I have sex with her?
2. Would I want to be in a relationship with her?
3. She's talking, let's try and pay some attention...

Well, something like those three at least. Those were my thoughts when I couldn't get a girlfriend, those are my thoughts when I'm single, those are my thoughts when I have several potential girlfriends, and those are my thoughts when I have an exclusive girlfriend. Not that I would admit it in RL, and not that I would act on anything in that last example. Thoughts never changed, but results changed as I gained knowledge and experience.

Whatever your intentions, if you come out as needy, clingy or creepy, you won't get anywhere.

But all correct behaviours can be learned.

Meh, if you don't think you'll get in a relationship, chances are, you won't. And visa versa. If you do, you will.
That's either inaccurate or a tautology.
 
I'm not arguing that gay men should be sluts. I'm just saying I've met some shallow gay guys who act like anyone over 30 is too old or like they're just too good for half the men out there and this is sort of a reaction to that.

That is so me. I refuse to date white people.
 
I have never been in a relationship, and most likely never will. :( I'm too ugly, too short, and too fat. Plus, I have bizarre fetishes, and I'm obsessed with a race of people who don't even exist, while at the same time having a foaming-at-the-mouth hatred of my own species. And of course, extreme shyness.

Did I mention I'm really ugly? :p
 
Some people just have... interesting standards! :D
I found myself lowering my standard on determining on what woman I'm attractive to. Race, height, eye color, hair color, don't factor intonme in determining on who to date.

Though I still wont date an obese woman or a thin as a twig anorexic woman.

I have never been in a relationship, and most likely never will. :( I'm too ugly, too short, and too fat. Plus, I have bizarre fetishes, and I'm obsessed with a race of people who don't even exist, while at the same time having a foaming-at-the-mouth hatred of my own species. And of course, extreme shyness.

Did I mention I'm really ugly? :p

I hate to say Pluto, reading that is just like looking at a mirror of myself (minus the bizarre fetish, attraction to fictional races, and loathing for the human race).

All I have to say is get over the shyness, I know it's easier said than done and I know I sound like a hypocrite by saying this.
 
I hate to say Pluto, reading that is just like looking at a mirror of myself (minus the bizarre fetish, attraction to fictional races, and loathing for the human race).

All I have to say is get over the shyness, I know it's easier said than done and I know I sound like a hypocrite by saying this.
Tbh, I have to back-track on the hate the humans thing. As much as I hate us, I still look at and fantasize about human women on a very regular basis, as well as the wishful thinking about being with one.

As for the shyness, it IS easier said than done. :undecide:
 
Unless Czechia is completely different from Germany and half the rest of Europe, your ideas about such a launch window sounds very inaccurate.

Well, I am not claiming to be speaking with any authority whatsoever on this subject :lol:

From 25 and up it gets more difficult to be single and remain friends with couples, that is true. But there's not really a lack of singles in their late twenties. And even if there was, there no reason not to go a couple of years up (for women) or down (for men) from your own. The opposite direction is also possible, though rarer.

It's just my personal observation (confirmed by a couple of my friends yesterday - or was it today? - on a halloween party we had :D ) that women I am interested in are invariably in a relationship. And not just those of my age, I mean even those 4-5 years younger than me. I don't know why, statistically this shouldn't be the case. (And women who are interested in me are generally of the type I find unattractive or dumb or both).

From what little I can glean though, it seems you simply have problems escalating an established or budding friendship into a sexual relationship? If I can ask: Do you find yourself too quickly in the "friend zone", or are you actively being refused when you try to escalate things? How is your luck with simply asking a girl to go and hang out and do something?

You and I are very different personalities in this respect, or so it seems (I am talking now also about your other comments I am not quoting here). You're the outgoing type who will go to a club to pick up a girl for sex. That's something I am totally not interested in. Although obviously I have the same reaction to beautiful women as other guys, I don't consider physical appearance all that important (I know how this sounds), so far as certain minimum standard is met. To me the important things are humour (she has to be able to make me laugh sometimes), intelligence, and the resulting ability to engage in a non-banal conversation with me for more than just a few minutes. (I don't have a problem with the sort of banal stuff people talk about most of the time, but it's not something I really enjoy).

The problem is women like that seem to be relatively rare, and when I run into one, she already has a boyfriend, so trying anything there would be a waste of time (and self-respect). The other women are fine and fun at times, but I can't imagine wanting to be in a relationship with them.

Which is why I said I am not depressed or anything about it. When I meet a girl I like and she is single, then perhaps things will change.

It's not like it's easy for me, it is probably just as hard for me, I have panic attacks. There have been many times when I have tried to talk to girls, I get a few words out and then I find myself looking at my feet mumbling about how I suck and nobody will ever go for me or want to even hang out and watch TV with me, and I'm stupid and why am I even trying to make how stupid and worthless I am obvious to everyone. In fact, this didn't just happen "many" times, this happens every time, this happens when I am writing outgoing messages on dating sites.

Nothing like that has ever happened to me. As I said, I am not awkward with women, most times (unless the woman I am talking to is practically brain dead) I can talk with them with no problem - even those I've never met before. That seems to be a problem to some other guys (especially on internet forums :D ), that they're not even able to have a normal conversation with the opposite sex. Well, it's not my problem - I can relatively quickly establish a friendly "yeah, we know each other" contact. My "problem" (let's call it a "situation") is that although I am good at making friends and acquaintances, I can't get it moving past that, for reasons I explained to Cheetah.
 
"Lowering standards"? How about "broadening one's outlook" and accepting that your future girlfriend may not be showing up in the Babe Thread anytime soon, but that it's possible to befriend, fall in love with, be made very happy by, and have mind-blowingly awesome sex with someone who may not rock a bikini but knows exactly what buttons to push in that brain of yours and finds doing so to be a huge turn-on?
 
I'ma be honest bro, I can usually handle talking to them once I get into the friend zone, when I start calling them "dude" a lot. That is in fact how my relationships usually start.

But if I go into a situation where I am supposed to ask a girl for her number or see if she wants to get some coffee later or even hit up the dance floor, panic attacks.

See, with me it is usually a problem of "too hungry, overthinking it too much," and once I get past that and just am like "Ok, we're just friends, nothings gonna happen" I relax and start to make my moves without really paying a lot of attention.
 
Same here. My wife even puts up with me spending some time modding. :D

My wife has 2 fantasy football teams so now we're watching football all day on Sunday. It's quite a treat for her to go from "I don't really like sports but it's cute that you do" to "GODDAMNIT TOM BRADY, THROW LIKE A GODDAMN MAN. IS GIZELLE WEARING YOU OUT TOO MUCH IN BED? YOU DISGUST ME! WHERES MY BEER!"
 
where are these dumb sluts? I never found them. I can't get sex unless I'm either in a relationship or with prostitutes. Which of the two sounds better?

I'm not a player by any means, quite the opposite actually. But from my observations if you're a young guy, especially one in college, relationships are almost a bad idea. Everyone on campus is looking for improvement, especially in the arena of "relationships". Either the girl or the guy will find someone better and break it off, usually after 3 months, maybe 6. Relationships that last longer than a year are almost unheard of, and usually take place between very shy, antisocial people who don't get out much to begin with. Sex just kind of seeks you out. It sought me out on a couple of nights, though I was in the iron grip of liquor dick, unfortunately.:(

Didn't stop her from trying, though.:D
 
My wife has 2 fantasy football teams so now we're watching football all day on Sunday. It's quite a treat for her to go from "I don't really like sports but it's cute that you do" to "GODDAMNIT TOM BRADY, THROW LIKE A GODDAMN MAN. IS GIZELLE WEARING YOU OUT TOO MUCH IN BED? YOU DISGUST ME! WHERES MY BEER!"

That is absolutely awesome!! :lol:
 
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