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Great, last thing we need now is civ_king having a personality split.
That's not to say my sword isn't baying for the blood of infidels, but my sword is still sheathed as Jesus commanded Peter in the Garden
I became a Catholic in College. I was raised as an spiritualist but science made me lost my faith and I became an atheist. As I met many many liberal people I saw they going throw drugs, abortions, homossexuality, and orgies. I didn't fit there. I was just a nerd that used some weed to roll with the cool guys, and got dissmissed from my college. I had a lesbian girlfriend who shared girls with me, but it was all too heavy and empty. I left that punk world and started rolling with the Nazis, so I studied hard and got back to my old engeniering college. One of my best nazi friend was in fact a jew with problens with his family, he taugh me a lot about the old testament and I started reading more philosophy. I found in aristotle a link between science and religion that I was longing for, and in the catholic church that embraced him a link between logics and morality, so I was baptised, converted my ex-nazi/ex-jew friend and we found better company.
I've seen this type of stuff before
Didn't the OT exist?

But I don't have a problem admitting that, its when we assume that tradition is infallible and not subject to the ordinary process of change that it gets me. The Bible (Meaning its books) was the source of Early Tradition, and then it changed. The Bible has the modern truth.
There is tradition and then there is Tradition
how can a Jew be a Nazi?
Intense self loathing
It's identity crisis.



it's becose you diid'nt see where they ended. my ex is now a crack hore and their friends dealers, one is dead already. The orgy people got serious jelowsy issues and some said they did same sex partners becase of peer presure more then will. I used to hang out with a girl that aborted and got repented. Now she carries it like burden.
Seen this too...
 
There is tradition and then there is Tradition

Yeah, my opinion is more that tradition has value, but not the same value as Scripture. I don't believe Tradition (Capital, meaning infallible, not lowercase, simply meaning useful) actually exists truly.
 
Yeah, my opinion is more that tradition has value, but not the same value as Scripture. I don't believe Tradition (Capital, meaning infallible, not lowercase, simply meaning useful) actually exists truly.

CA said:
Is Scripture the sole rule of faith for Christians? Not according to the Bible. While we must guard against merely human tradition, the Bible contains numerous references to the necessity of clinging to apostolic tradition.

Thus Paul tells the Corinthians, "I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you" (1 Cor. 11:2), and he commands the Thessalonians, "So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter" (2 Thess. 2:15). He even goes so far as to order, "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is living in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us" (2 Thess. 3:6).

To make sure that the apostolic tradition would be passed down after the deaths of the apostles, Paul told Timothy, "[W]hat you have heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also" (2 Tim. 2:2). In this passage he refers to the first four generations of apostolic succession—his own generation, Timothy’s generation, the generation Timothy will teach, and the generation they in turn will teach.
How about this
 
You definitely have something of a case based off of this, far more than many Protestants are willing to admit.

That said, its not convincing. All the Tradition that Paul can truly speak for is his own. He didn't know what the Catholic Church (Or any other group) would do with his Tradition. In the Ancient Times, there wasn't a Catholic Church with massive bureaucracy creating tradition, it was Paul and the other apostles getting it from God.

I confess I don't know 100% how Catholic Tradition works, but I suspect, even if their intentions are good (Probably true), 2,000 years is a long time NOT to have a telephone effect. Also, many Catholic traditions simply do not fit with Scripture at all.
 
What if I have a quote where the president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary says tradition is needed and that sola scriptura is not the end all?
That’s why Albert Mohler, president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, that citadel of Christian conservatism, concludes that one’s Bible reading must be overseen by the proper authorities. Just because everyone should read the Bible “doesn’t mean that everyone’s equally qualified to read it, and it doesn’t mean that the text is just to be used as a mirror for ourselves,” he says. “All kinds of heresies come from people who read the Bible and recklessly believe that they’ve understood it correctly.” As the word of God, he adds, the Bible isn’t open to the same level of interpretation as The Odyssey or The Iliad.
http://www.newsweek.com/2011/02/06/what-the-bible-really-says-about-sex.html

I'm pre-emptively pointing out that you will have quite large disagreements about the content of the article, so ignore the article and deal with the guys quote.
 
I think that tradition has value, but ultimately we should look to the Ancient stuff, the farther back, the more likely to be accurate. Ultimately the Bible is infallible, inerrant, and in the core areas, self-explanatory. I partly agree with this man (Though I'm not Southern Baptist necessarily either) in that you can come up with bizarre interpretations of Scripture (That article is a good example) that don't make any sense. Some things in Scripture are clear, for these we need no tradition or anything but the words on the page. Other things are NOT self-explanatory, on these things good traditions can help, but ultimately we don't really know for sure what they mean and so must make up our own minds (Romans 9 and Hebrews 6 are good examples.) While some interpretations are certainly more valid than others, there is no single valid interpretation.

That's just my opinion anyway.
 
So, how do we know which passages need guidance and tradition and which ones don't?
 
So, how do we know which passages need guidance and tradition and which ones don't?

I think guidance and tradition differ from Tradition. I think the former two are good, the latter isn't, and this is the difference, the former is simply to help you. My pastor knows more about the Bible than I do, it makes sense for me to ask him about difficult passages. What is NOT a good thing is to assume that my pastor has every answer or that what he preaches from the pulpit is always accurate. He's experienced in Scripture, but still fallible. IMO, using tradition in the same way is good, but granting it infallibility isn't.
 
You do realize that Tradition refers to Apostolic Tradition right?
Examples:

Papias


"Papias [A.D. 120], who is now mentioned by us, affirms that he received the sayings of the apostles from those who accompanied them, and he, moreover, asserts that he heard in person Aristion and the presbyter John. Accordingly, he mentions them frequently by name, and in his writings gives their traditions [concerning Jesus]. . . . [There are] other passages of his in which he relates some miraculous deeds, stating that he acquired the knowledge of them from tradition" (fragment in Eusebius, Church History 3:39 [A.D. 312]).


Eusebius of Caesarea


"At that time [A.D. 150] there flourished in the Church Hegesippus, whom we know from what has gone before, and Dionysius, bishop of Corinth, and another bishop, Pinytus of Crete, and besides these, Philip, and Apollinarius, and Melito, and Musanus, and Modestus, and, finally, Irenaeus. From them has come down to us in writing, the sound and orthodox faith received from tradition" (Church History 4:21).


Irenaeus


"As I said before, the Church, having received this preaching and this faith, although she is disseminated throughout the whole world, yet guarded it, as if she occupied but one house. She likewise believes these things just as if she had but one soul and one and the same heart; and harmoniously she proclaims them and teaches them and hands them down, as if she possessed but one mouth. For, while the languages of the world are diverse, nevertheless, the authority of the tradition is one and the same" (Against Heresies 1:10:2 [A.D. 189]).

"That is why it is surely necessary to avoid them [heretics], while cherishing with the utmost diligence the things pertaining to the Church, and to lay hold of the tradition of truth. . . . What if the apostles had not in fact left writings to us? Would it not be necessary to follow the order of tradition, which was handed down to those to whom they entrusted the churches?" (ibid., 3:4:1).

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"It is possible, then, for everyone in every church, who may wish to know the truth, to contemplate the tradition of the apostles which has been made known throughout the whole world. And we are in a position to enumerate those who were instituted bishops by the apostles and their successors to our own times—men who neither knew nor taught anything like these heretics rave about.

"But since it would be too long to enumerate in such a volume as this the successions of all the churches, we shall confound all those who, in whatever manner, whether through self-satisfaction or vainglory, or through blindness and wicked opinion, assemble other than where it is proper, by pointing out here the successions of the bishops of the greatest and most ancient church known to all, founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul, that church which has the tradition and the faith which comes down to us after having been announced to men by the apostles.

"With this church, because of its superior origin, all churches must agree—that is, all the faithful in the whole world—and it is in her that the faithful everywhere have maintained the apostolic tradition" (ibid., 3:3:1–2).


Clement of Alexandria


"Well, they preserving the tradition of the blessed doctrine derived directly from the holy apostles, Peter, James, John, and Paul, the sons receiving it from the father (but few were like the fathers), came by God’s will to us also to deposit those ancestral and apostolic seeds. And well I know that they will exult; I do not mean delighted with this tribute, but solely on account of the preservation of the truth, according as they delivered it. For such a sketch as this, will, I think, be agreeable to a soul desirous of preserving from loss the blessed tradition" (Miscellanies 1:1 [A.D. 208]).


Origen


"Although there are many who believe that they themselves hold to the teachings of Christ, there are yet some among them who think differently from their predecessors. The teaching of the Church has indeed been handed down through an order of succession from the apostles and remains in the churches even to the present time. That alone is to be believed as the truth which is in no way at variance with ecclesiastical and apostolic tradition" (The Fundamental Doctrines 1:2 [A.D. 225]).


Cyprian of Carthage


"[T]he Church is one, and as she is one, cannot be both within and without. For if she is with Novatian, she was not with [Pope] Cornelius. But if she was with Cornelius, who succeeded the bishop Fabian by lawful ordination, and whom, beside the honor of the priesthood the Lord glorified also with martyrdom, Novatian is not in the Church; nor can he be reckoned as a bishop, who, succeeding to no one, and despising the evangelical and apostolic tradition, sprang from himself. For he who has not been ordained in the Church can neither have nor hold to the Church in any way" (Letters 75:3 [A.D. 253]).


Athanasius


"Again we write, again keeping to the apostolic traditions, we remind each other when we come together for prayer; and keeping the feast in common, with one mouth we truly give thanks to the Lord. Thus giving thanks unto him, and being followers of the saints, ‘we shall make our praise in the Lord all the day,’ as the psalmist says. So, when we rightly keep the feast, we shall be counted worthy of that joy which is in heaven" (Festal Letters 2:7 [A.D. 330]).

"But you are blessed, who by faith are in the Church, dwell upon the foundations of the faith, and have full satisfaction, even the highest degree of faith which remains among you unshaken. For it has come down to you from apostolic tradition, and frequently accursed envy has wished to unsettle it, but has not been able" (ibid., 29).


Basil the Great


"Of the dogmas and messages preserved in the Church, some we possess from written teaching and others we receive from the tradition of the apostles, handed on to us in mystery. In respect to piety, both are of the same force. No one will contradict any of these, no one, at any rate, who is even moderately versed in matters ecclesiastical. Indeed, were we to try to reject unwritten customs as having no great authority, we would unwittingly injure the gospel in its vitals; or rather, we would reduce [Christian] message to a mere term" (The Holy Spirit 27:66 [A.D. 375]).


Epiphanius of Salamis


"It is needful also to make use of tradition, for not everything can be gotten from sacred Scripture. The holy apostles handed down some things in the scriptures, other things in tradition" (Medicine Chest Against All Heresies 61:6 [A.D. 375]).


Augustine


"[T]he custom [of not rebaptizing converts] . . . may be supposed to have had its origin in apostolic tradition, just as there are many things which are observed by the whole Church, and therefore are fairly held to have been enjoined by the apostles, which yet are not mentioned in their writings" (On Baptism, Against the Donatists 5:23[31] [A.D. 400]).

"But the admonition that he [Cyprian] gives us, ‘that we should go back to the fountain, that is, to apostolic tradition, and thence turn the channel of truth to our times,’ is most excellent, and should be followed without hesitation" (ibid., 5:26[37]).

"But in regard to those observances which we carefully attend and which the whole world keeps, and which derive not from Scripture but from Tradition, we are given to understand that they are recommended and ordained to be kept, either by the apostles themselves or by plenary [ecumenical] councils, the authority of which is quite vital in the Church" (Letter to Januarius [A.D. 400]).


John Chrysostom


"[Paul commands,] ‘Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you have been taught, whether by word or by our letter’ [2 Thess. 2:15]. From this it is clear that they did not hand down everything by letter, but there is much also that was not written. Like that which was written, the unwritten too is worthy of belief. So let us regard the tradition of the Church also as worthy of belief. Is it a tradition? Seek no further" (Homilies on Second Thessalonians [A.D. 402]).


Vincent of Lerins


"With great zeal and closest attention, therefore, I frequently inquired of many men, eminent for their holiness and doctrine, how I might, in a concise and, so to speak, general and ordinary way, distinguish the truth of the Catholic faith from the falsehood of heretical depravity.

"I received almost always the same answer from all of them—that if I or anyone else wanted to expose the frauds and escape the snares of the heretics who rise up, and to remain intact and in sound faith, it would be necessary, with the help of the Lord, to fortify that faith in a twofold manner: first, of course, by the authority of divine law [Scripture] and then by the tradition of the Catholic Church.

"Here, perhaps, someone may ask: ‘If the canon of the scriptures be perfect and in itself more than suffices for everything, why is it necessary that the authority of ecclesiastical interpretation be joined to it?’ Because, quite plainly, sacred Scripture, by reason of its own depth, is not accepted by everyone as having one and the same meaning. . . .

"Thus, because of so many distortions of such various errors, it is highly necessary that the line of prophetic and apostolic interpretation be directed in accord with the norm of the ecclesiastical and Catholic meaning" (The Notebooks [A.D. 434]).
http://www.catholic.com/library/Apostolic_Tradition.asp
 
Bishop approves Our Lady of Lourdes healing

Paris, France, Mar 30, 2011 / 01:55 pm (CNA).- Bishop Emmanuel Delmas of Angers, France confirmed the healing of a man at the Shrine of Our Lady of Lourdes.

“This healing can be considered as a personal gift of God for this man, as a fact of grace, as a sign of Christ the Savior,” the bishop said March 27.

Serge Francois, 56, had lost almost all mobility in his left leg after complications from two operations left him with a herniated disc. He made a pilgrimage to the shrine on April 13, 2002 to pray for healing.

Bishop Delmas noted that the healing took place after Francois “had finished praying at the grotto and went to the miraculous spring to drink the water and wash his face. A unique gesture of the Virgin Mary can be seen in the healing of this man,” he said.

The Spanish daily La Razon said that after Francois' recovery, he returned to Lourdes in 2003 and reported his case to the medical commission, which began its investigation.

The Lourdes Medical Commission later verified that “the rapid functional healing, unrelated to any form of treatment" was "still present, eight years later.”

Francois made a 975-mile pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela, Spain in thanksgiving for his recovery.

Bishop Jacques Perrier of Tarbes and Lourdes explained that doctors are “hesitant today to use the term ‘inexplicable,’ unless they qualify it with ‘scientifically'.”

“They prefer to limit themselves to one fact: the healing is inexplicable today. They consider this qualification to be essential so they are not discredited later by colleagues who reject the inexplicable,” he said in a statement published on the Shrine of Lourdes’ website.

“Moreover,” he added, “the doctors at Lourdes always strive to be medically irreproachable. The Church herself encourages them in this.”

To commemorate the latest healing, Bishop Delmas has invited Catholics to a special Mass in Lourdes during a pilgrimage to the shrine May 3-8.
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/bishop-approves-our-lady-of-lourdes-healing/
Wow, surely getting mobility back in your leg is wonderful, but a 975 mile hike seems overkill
 
Wow, surely getting mobility back in your leg is wonderful, but a 975 mile hike seems overkill
Too busy to give thanks to God for getting your leg back? Try thanksgiving for the modern Catholic! A modest 9.75 mile walk spread out over several days is the religous eqivalent.
 
Anti-Catholic Vandals Destroy Statue of Mary in Md.
Yet another instance of anti-Catholic violence reared its ugly head last weekend, as a statue of the Virgin Mary was found desecrated on the grounds of Immaculate Conception Church, in Towson, Maryland (a suburb of Baltimore.)

The 6-foot high statue of Mary that watches over traffic on the church hillside still has the same beatific expression on her face, but last Saturday night, someone disconnected the spotlight that made her presence known and, in the dark, knocked her off her stone pedestal, according to the Baltimore County Police Department.
The white cement statue was last seen where she was supposed to be March 19, at 6 p.m., according to police Detective Cathy Batton, as reported in The Baltimore Times.

The vandalism was discovered and reported to police at 9:45 a.m. March 20. On Monday morning, as traffic whizzed by, the Mary statue was lying on its back in the grass behind the pedestal. Mary’s arms were slightly extended from her garments as usual, but without her left hand.

“The hand is missing, but no one is able to tell us if it was missing before or from this incident,” Batton said after reviewing the report.

Immaculate Conception declined to comment. But Monday afternoon, Archdiocese of Baltimore spokesman Sean Caine reported the church had determined the missing hand was, indeed, a result of Saturday’s vandalism. “It was a not a pre-existing condition,” he said.

The statue was donated to Immaculate Conception and its 3,000 registered member-families in the late 1980s, he said. Located where it was, the church saw it as “a gift to the community. “Meanwhile, police have no information on suspects, Batton said.

The vandalism is especially troubling for Immaculate Conception, and Catholics in general, he said, because the church is dedicated to Mary, the mother of Jesus. “But we view it as an isolated incident,” Caine said. “She’ll be good as new before too long.”

Maryland’s Catholic Heritage

The act of vandalism committed against the Towson Catholic church is replete with irony, considering the history of Maryland, which was formed in the 1600s as a haven of religious tolerance for Catholics (and others), who were persecuted in England due to their nonconformity to the Church of England. In 1632, Charles I issued a charter to Cecilius Calvert, the second Lord Baltimore, who carried out his father’s plans of creating a Catholic colony in the New World. On March 25, 1634, the first Catholic Mass was said in Maryland, as recorded by the Jesuit priest Andrew White, in his Relatio Itineris in Marylandium.

Most notably, despite being founded as a refuge for persecuted Catholics, Maryland colony was tolerant towards non-Catholics, as well, as Calvert enjoined an abstinence from all religious controversies, "to preserve peace and unity amongst all the passengers and to suffer no scandal or offenSe, whereby just complaint may be made by them in Virginia or in England. . .and to treat the Protestants with as much mildness and favor as justice will require,” as people of opposite creeds and differing social conditions were all welcome in the colony. In act, Maryland and nearby Quaker Pennsylvania were the only colonies that offered religious freedom to all.

Maryland was also home to Charles Carroll, the only Catholic signer of the Declaration of Independence; his cousin Daniel Carroll; and Daniel Carroll's brother John Carroll, who became America's first Catholic bishop.

Charles Carroll of Carrollton (1737-1832) was the most illustrious and best-known of the Carrolls. He was the only signer whose property, Carrollton, was mentioned in the Declaration of Independence. Carrollton was the 10,000-acre estate in Frederick County, Maryland, that Charles Carroll's father had given him on his return to America from his education in Europe.

(Unfortunately, however, according to historian Marian Horvat, once the Maryland colony turned to Puritan control, the penal code against Catholics included test oaths administered to keep Catholics out of office, legislation that barred Catholics from entering certain professions (such as Law), and measures had been enacted to make them incapable of inheriting or purchasing land. By 1718 the ballot had been denied to Catholics in Maryland, following the example of the other colonies, and parents could even be fined for sending children abroad to be educated as Catholics.)

Anti-Religious Vandalism in the United States

Sadly, violence targeted against religious institutions and houses of worship is nothing out of the ordinary in the United States. Catholic churches and Jewish synagogues, in particular, are frequent targets for desecration and violent acts of vandalism, according to organizations such as the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, and the Anti-Defamation League.

In New York, where a string of vandalism struck houses of worship in June 2010, lawmakers proposed expanding existing law by creating a new “E” felony crime when property of a place of religious worship is damaged in an amount greater than $150.00. The bill also broadens current statutes to include and protect property located outside and on the grounds of places of religious worship. The bill has the support of Archbishop Timothy Dolan, who said “a house of worship represents safety, security, peace, love, acceptance, the most noble aspirations we as human beings have. When we vandalize that, when we wreck that, when we deface that, we strike right at the heart of what makes us great as Americans and people of faith.” Orthodox Jewish leaders partnered with Abp. Dolan on the proposal.

In its 2008/9 report on Human Rights, the FBI reported that anti-Catholic bias consisted of 76 incidents, 81 offenses, and 86 victims, and in addition to statues being desecrated, church arson, often accompanied by anti-religious and racist graffiti, is also prevalent. Attacks on churches were also reported in which racism and anti-immigrant bias and xenophobia combined, including attacks on traditionally black churches and churches attended by Americans and immigrants of Hispanic origin.

Such incidents also include attacks by social liberals over the Church’s stance on issues such as abortion, the ordination of women, and homosexuality, in the name of “tolerance.“ Once such incident occurred in San Francisco, in which Most Holy Redeemer Catholic Church was spray-painted with swastikas and pro-gay slurs, due to the church’s opposition to Proposition 8, a California ballot initiative that would legalize gay marriage.

Societal Anti-Catholicism

Unfortunately, violence against churches and synagogues remains pervasive, and some say that anti-Catholic bias remains the last acceptable form of prejudice in American and European society. This is the subject of an intense study by Philip Jenkins, who argues that today’s postmodern culture lends itself to anti-Catholic bias. Indeed, Jewish historian Arthur M. Schlesinger Sr. even argued that “prejudice against Catholics is the deepest bias in the history of the American people.”

In many ways, anti-Catholicism has become the new acceptable anti-Semitism; Jenkins says that anti-Catholicism has emerged as “the anti-Semitism of the liberals.” Despite the historical commonalities between the two forms of prejudice in the United States, there is nonetheless a double standard in which anti-Catholicism is shrouded in the terms of “social justice” or “reproductive rights.” While criticisms of individual Church policies or leaders may not constitute irrational bias, all too often these become pure prejudice, and manifest themselves in angry acts of vandalism against Catholic churches, such as the latest incident in Towson, Maryland.
Typical act against Catholicism, it's like the third one in a month. Bah, if they knock one down put two up, if they know two down put four up, they shall not prevail.
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Shhhh. Don't challenge the persecution complex.
 
Does this one seem anti-Catholic?
Madrid, Spain, Mar 11, 2011 / 08:01 pm (CNA).- Some 70 college students stormed into the chapel of Madrid’s Complutense University on March 10, shouting insults against the Catholic Church, Pope Benedict XVI and priests.

Several females from the group stood on the altar, undressed from the waist up.

Another female student who was in the chapel praying at the time told the Spanish daily ABC that two of the young women on the altar “boasted about their homosexual tendencies.”

The group of students stormed into the chapel with a megaphone and pushed the chaplain out of the way. They proceeded to shout insults against the Catholic Church and her teachings. The group also placed posters in the pews and on the bulletin board at the entrance to the chapel.

The entire incident was caught on film.

Another student interviewed by ABC asked, “what would have happened had this taken place in a mosque? These people should know that Catholics will never respond to a provocation with another provocation just to defend themselves.”

“Nobody will silence us by acting with hostility, mockery, intimidation or any other illegitimate pressure that offends the religions sensibilities of everyone,” she continued. “Moreover, acts like these are punishable by law. How easy and cowardly it is to do something like this anonymously!”

University administrators condemned the act and said an investigation will be carried to identity those responsible. They reiterated the university’s commitment to respect for freedom of worship and belief and urged students to be tolerant of each other’s religious sentiments. “The neutrality of the government in religious matters means no specific belief can be imposed or subjected to persecution.

“Tolerance and respect are absolutely indispensable,” they said.

ABC reported it was not the first time the chapel has been the target of anti-Christian acts. Last week the doors and walls of the chapel were painted with anti-Catholic graffiti.

The Archdiocese of Madrid released a statement condemning the desecration of the chapel and filed a formal complaint with the university. “These actions are an attack on freedom of worship and a profanation of a sacred place, which carries with it canonical penalties for any baptized parties who took part.”

The archdiocese called it “shameful that in a democratic society where there is supposed to be respect for others, for religious institutions and for the right to celebrate one’s faith in public,” a group of young people would tarnish the good name and hard work of the Complutense University.
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The article fails to mention what exactly they were protesting. Without knowing that they could have been protesting against any of the many problems the Catholic church has such as rampant pedophilia. Though their protesting method sounds a bit too aggressive, the only source for this I could find was other sites (none of which seemed like a real news source) pretty much copy pasting the same article.

And for all we know the insults against the church and its teachings could have been someone being, god forbid it (since he did create it) open and accepting about their sexuality.
 
As open as they might be, would you like the same thing done to you?
 
As open as they might be, would you like the same thing done to you?

Maybe it wasn't clear but I didn't condone how far they went in their protest based off of what little information is in that article. And if a group of religious people were to do the same to me, um, I don't see how they could really. At worst they could knock on my door and stand outside shouting stuff (I keep it locked even when I'm home, though I am not worried about someone breaking in during the day).

EDIT: Misread it as "open as you might be" instead of they.
 
Maybe it wasn't clear but I didn't condone how far they went in their protest based off of what little information is in that article.
Glad to hear it. :)
 
have there ever been any empires that practis truw cathalicizem?
 
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