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[GhostWriter16]

Thanks for the answers. More questions:

Do Catholics really believe the Pope is infallible when sitting in a certain chair, or was that made up by people who like to make fun of Catholicism?

Is the Church Fallible?

What is the Catholic position on searching the scriptures?

 

[shadowplay]

Do Catholics really believe the Pope is infallible when sitting in a certain chair, or was that made up by people who like to make fun of Catholicism?

Papal infallibility only applies to matters of faith, and it has to be invoked first before it applies. I've never heard of any kind of a 'special chair'.

 

[GhostWriter16]

Papal infallibility only applies to matters of faith, and it has to be invoked first before it applies. I've never heard of any kind of a 'special chair'.

How does the invoke process work?

As for the chair, I've heard there was one, but I have no idea if its an actual thing Catholics believe.

 

[shadowplay]

As for the chair, I've heard there was one, but I have no idea if its an actual thing Catholics believe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chair_of_St._Peter

They're probably referring to the Chair of St. Peter, which is sort of like the papal throne. I think they were just teasing us when they told you it has magic powers

As for the invokation process, I'll let somebody else answer this question as I'm not really sure.

 

[_random_]

Blessed Augustine was no influential in the East? You jest

Not to the extent he was in the west. His influence on Christendom as a whole was vast, but ideas like hereditary guilt never really took hold among Eastern Christians.

Your dog lacks the ability to use logical reasoning, unlike us. And you're not going to send your dog to hell if he does stuff you don't like.

The difference between us and an omniscient deity is much greater than the difference between us and a dog.

Why does he care so much?

Because He cares about us and doesn't want us to be slaves to our sins.

No that's not what I was saying. The fact that we punished him for his actions means he wasn't actually free to do those things.

Care to expand on this idea?

Sooo....

I read your link and it was unimpressive tbh. He never mentioned what historical evidence there was of a resurrection, nor addressed the fact that many other religions can surely claim the same thing, nor addressed the fact that this so-called "religious sense" people have is hardly universally from Christians and seems to 'validate' other faiths as much as the Christian faith.

So that just leaves us with the typical defense of Deism, which I was not really looking for and which doesn't convince of even Deism for a number of reasons. I will say, however, the his idea that being infinite is somehow 'simple' is absurd.

Admittedly, it's a pretty skeletal version of Swinburne's arguments. If you ever get a chance to read one of his books, I'd recommend it. I'll look for some things that address the issues you brought up.

 

[Cu Chulainn]

marriage is a privilege not a right

And who the hell are you to tell the Unitarian Church they can't marry Homosexuals? I would think that gay marriage would have been legalized by now on freedom of religion grounds, if nothing else.

 

[ParkCungHee]

How does the invoke process work?

As for the chair, I've heard there was one, but I have no idea if its an actual thing Catholics believe.

There is a term called "Speaking from the chair of St. Peter." It's not that he's actually sitting in the chair, but that he is invoking his authority. What esentially this means is the pope is speaking as Pope, capital letters and all so pay attention. It's similar to the parts of the Letters of Paul where he makes a distinguishment between his own opinon and divinely inspired word.

How does the invoke process work?

The pope must specifically invoke his authority and state that what follows is infalible.

 

[civ_king]

Thanks for the answers. More questions:

Do Catholics really believe the Pope is infallible when sitting in a certain chair, or was that made up by people who like to make fun of Catholicism?

Is the Church Fallible?

What is the Catholic position on searching the scriptures?

Ah, you must be talking about ex cathedra: "In Catholic theology, the Latin phrase ex cathedra, literally meaning "from the chair", refers to a teaching by the pope that is considered to be made with the intention of invoking infallibility."

The Sacred Magisterium is infallible. The Ordinary Magisterium is not (necessarily) infallible.

What do you mean by "...searching the scriptures?" If you mean reading them then that is absolutely encouraged

How does the invoke process work?

As for the chair, I've heard there was one, but I have no idea if its an actual thing Catholics believe.

According to the teaching of the First Vatican Council and Catholic tradition, the conditions required for ex cathedra teaching are as follows:
1. "the Roman Pontiff"
2. "speaks ex cathedra" ("that is, when in the discharge of his office as shepherd and teacher of all Christians, and by virtue of his supreme apostolic authority….")
3. "he defines"
4. "that a doctrine concerning faith or morals"
5. "must be held by the whole Church" (Pastor Aeternus, chap. 4)

the "chair is a metaphor and Bishops have a symbolic chair

 

[useless]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/10/wikileaks-pope-anglicans-catholics

The Vatican refused to allow its officials to testify before an Irish commission investigating abuse of children by priests and was angered when they were summoned from Rome.

What a nice institution...


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Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

 

[Lone Wolf]

The difference between us and an omniscient deity is much greater than the difference between us and a dog.

As already pointed out, such statements may work as a rationalization for someone who's already intuitively convinced in a particular faith being true, they totally lack power on people who don't believe in the first place (since such reasoning can be used to justify any religious dogma).

 

[civ_king]

As already pointed out, such statements may work as a rationalization for someone who's already intuitively convinced in a particular faith being true, they totally lack power on people who don't believe in the first place (since such reasoning can be used to justify any religious dogma).

can you please include the person being quoted?

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

As already pointed out, such statements may work as a rationalization for someone who's already intuitively convinced in a particular faith being true, they totally lack power on people who don't believe in the first place (since such reasoning can be used to justify any religious dogma).

Which, if this is a thread demanding that Catholics prove their faith, won't accomplish anything; but if this is a thread about asking Catholics what they believe or think about something, then mission accomplished.

 

[civ_king]

Due to getting numerous PMs about Catholicism from multiple people here's to a bump.

Questions anyone?

 

[Takhisis]

What a strange moment to restart the thread, eh? Curious, most curious…

 

[Ajidica]

Did most of those PMs involve the recent settlement?

I don't recall this having been asked before, but what experiance do you have in actual Catholic theology?

 

[civ_king]

Did most of those PMs involve the recent settlement?

I don't recall this having been asked before, but what experiance do you have in actual Catholic theology?

Hundreds of hours of research

 

[Bill3000]

Hundreds of hours of research

aspergers obsession?

 

[civ_king]

aspergers obsession?

No, research was forced in response to environmental conditions, specifically people who absorb drivel from morons like Tom Chick. Also bizarre questions such as "Do Catholics really believe the Pope is infallible when sitting in a certain chair?"

 

[Dachs]

No, research was forced in response to environmental conditions, specifically people who absorb drivel from morons like Tom Chick.

Jack Chick.

Also, the construction of that reply did nothing to dispel the whole aspie thing.

Also bizarre questions such as "Do Catholics really believe the Pope is infallible when sitting in a certain chair?"

Of course he's infallible, unless he leans back really far. It's important to keep your balance.

 

[civ_king]

Jack Chick.

Also, the construction of that reply did nothing to dispel the whole aspie thing.

Of course he's infallible, unless he leans back really far. It's important to keep your balance.

Apologizes

Eh, so what if I have Aspergers?

Win