Ask A Girl IV: Boundless Questions

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Recently I was having dinner w/ my brother and his girlfriend and she asked me why men have few qualms about frankly discussing sexual issues in mixed company (i.e. “why are men pigs?”). I pointed out to her that while it is true that men do behave in this manner, such behavior is frequently focused on generalities or fantasies rather than the men’s specific intimate details. In fact, discussion of specific details of a man’s love life is generally avoided.

I then contrasted the public discussion by men of sex with the semi-public discussion of sex among women by mentioning that women discuss the intimate details of their love lives quite freely. Women in a hair salon or among their girlfriends may share specific intimate details of their love lives, such as size, frequency, or what-have-you far more frequently then men would share those same details with other men. In fact men rarely share such intimate details with each other.

So with men you have public sexual conversation that amounts to mostly chest-pounding (“I’d like to bang her,” “Look at the tits on that one, boys,”) whereas women discuss more specific details from their own personal experiences (“He must have been seven inches long,” “His tongue felt wonderful.”).

One interpretation of this is that public sexual expressions by men is a breach of public standards, but women’s discussion of the intimate details of a relationship is a breach of a personal and intimate trust.

What do you think?

(And I should note that the above examples are largely based on my personal anecdotal experience, although I think they are reflective of how the culture operates in general (and some scholarly writings support my thesis). In addition, I’m in the States, so my observations may not be universally applicable to other nations (but I think they are to the UK).)
 
I think it is down to the pressure for the male to be the one who makes the sex great or not. Girls could probably laugh about having a crap guy in bed, guys are less likely to admit to banging some girl for weeks who was crap in bed...
 
Recently I was having dinner w/ my brother and his girlfriend and she asked me why men have few qualms about frankly discussing sexual issues in mixed company (i.e. “why are men pigs?”). I pointed out to her that while it is true that men do behave in this manner, such behavior is frequently focused on generalities or fantasies rather than the men’s specific intimate details. In fact, discussion of specific details of a man’s love life is generally avoided.

I then contrasted the public discussion by men of sex with the semi-public discussion of sex among women by mentioning that women discuss the intimate details of their love lives quite freely. Women in a hair salon or among their girlfriends may share specific intimate details of their love lives, such as size, frequency, or what-have-you far more frequently then men would share those same details with other men. In fact men rarely share such intimate details with each other.

So with men you have public sexual conversation that amounts to mostly chest-pounding (“I’d like to bang her,” “Look at the tits on that one, boys,”) whereas women discuss more specific details from their own personal experiences (“He must have been seven inches long,” “His tongue felt wonderful.”).

One interpretation of this is that public sexual expressions by men is a breach of public standards, but women’s discussion of the intimate details of a relationship is a breach of a personal and intimate trust.

What do you think?

(And I should note that the above examples are largely based on my personal anecdotal experience, although I think they are reflective of how the culture operates in general (and some scholarly writings support my thesis). In addition, I’m in the States, so my observations may not be universally applicable to other nations (but I think they are to the UK).)

I don't discuss my sexual experiences with anyone, unless I have a major concern, and I haven't had one of those in like...years. Although my friends do in one way or another. I've NEVER known anyone tell me the size of a guy (unless it's been bullied out of them or they hated them after the slept with them), especially a boyfriend. Don't get me wrong, I've been asked, but I'd definitely not answer, it's not appropriate.
I don't really mind if men talk in the way you've suggested, it's just male banter and them trying to look as manly as possible. Each to their own frankly.
To be honest if I'm going to talk to anyone about that sort of thing it's with the person I'm sleeping with - seems the most logical ;)
But don't get me wrong, I have no doubt in my mind that women do talk like that. Although maybe not with hairdressers... I definitely won't be doing that with mine on Saturday anyway! I just don't think it's secluded to just the female population, I'd like to think men do it too...
 
In your opinion, at what age does it become pathetic/sad/pitiful for a man to be a virgin?

Oh, and not by choice. I don't mean people that are saving it for marriage.
 
Skipped to the end page here to see how many posts but explicit much just checked the rest of the forum not as bad as expected,? I mean off topic is really going down, dont little children have access to these forums? ImO the mods either dont think any kids can play civ and go to these forums or they think that reading stuff of this kind of content is normal for kids, at the same time people get infractions for some trivial things. Im probably going to get infracted for criticizing mods, but hey at least i posted my point. I geuss mabey i have nothing to be concerned about i probable just over reacted
 
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In your opinion, at what age does it become pathetic/sad/pitiful for a man to be a virgin?



15 or 16, I am thinking.

That's ridiculous. The vast majority of people have not lost their virginity then!
(Or did you mean when social pressure starts to exist?)

@Pete. If the person is activity trying and missing.. 18.
If they were crippled by confidence/looks/ability to talk to women/disinterested.. well it never is.

It only ever becomes that, when the person thinks it themselves.


That aside.. I would think someone really missed out and needs a little help if they have not having sex by hmm, 21? Some people really can't be helped though.

One of my best RL friends is 25.. an i'm sure he is 100% total virgin (not even kissed a girl) now i've tried to help, but he is so darn stubborn and sure of himself he won't listen. I'm sure he will find someone eventually...
 
In your opinion, at what age does it become pathetic/sad/pitiful for a man to be a virgin?

Oh, and not by choice. I don't mean people that are saving it for marriage.

Now that I can reply...

I don't think it's ever pitiful, pathetic or sad. That's definitely the wrong way to put it. I suppose there comes a certain age, like, 21...maybe, that it becomes uncomfortable for the guy in question, but I never think it's sad or pitiful. I regret (regret is a strong word but dislike) when I lost my virginity because it was WAY too young and that's more pitiful than waiting around for a bit!
 
We're honestly not a DL folks.. just think scarily alike!
 
Oh that was really strange reading it back :S
 
You guys must finish each others sentences in real life, eh?
 
I think that's only happened once (from memory) when asked what Mcflurry I wanted, and we both announced VERY defiantly, 'Crunchie!' at the same time...
 
Are girls fascinated by it? Sounds like something you'd find in a chic lit/"Hugh Grant romantic" movie
 
Are girls fascinated by it? Sounds like something you'd find in a chic lit/"Hugh Grant romantic" movie

Fascinated by what? Hugh Grant? Definitely ;)
 
I thought 16 was the average age to lose it. :blush: I could've sworn I read that somewhere.
Just because 1/4 girls in america have an STD is no excuse for a girl to get 1/4 infected!

Seriously, just because other people may be that skanky doesn't mean you should!
(Anyhow, I think the average age may be brought down due to freaks that you find on the Maury show, what with the 'I'm not the daddy!' dances.)
 
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