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"god-breathed" is how the NIV translates it - of course, that was written before the Bible as we know it was put together, so it couldn't have been referring to that
 
@ El Machinae- I've been taught that Satan can do "Whatever God lets him do and nothing more." IMO the book of Job supports this conclusion, and even if you deny its literal truth, that could be one of the lessons intended to be learned from it.

I don't know what the church historically taught though. That's for Plotinus to answer.
 
@Plotinus- 2 Timothy 3:16 affirms the inspiration of the word. To deny that is to deny the Bible's validity, which calls the entire book into question.

Nowhere in the Bible - not in 2 Timothy or anywhere else - does it define "scripture". So it is quite possible that, say, 2 Timothy is correct but the Book of Malachi isn't, or what have you. It just says "scripture" is inspired but doesn't explicitly say what qualifies as scripture.
 
Ok another question, because I have just been hit with some DIVINE INSPIRATION!


In reference to this post on indigenous Christian movements in Africa, I have a few questions.

1. Where exactly can I find where you wrote that? It might be important for sourcing if I decide to write on this for a class next semester.

2. Where can I learn more?

3. What do you think of Joseph Kony, the Lord's Resistance Army, and how it fits into the greater narrative of the spread of AICs?

4. Would primary sources be relatively easy to find online or in book form on some of the more prominent people you mentioned in your post?
 
During the story about throwing the first stone? I prefer to think that he was simply making busy-work for himself whilst the accusers thought over what he had said.
 
Plotinus -

First, let me add my voice to the chorus proclaiming that this post is, indeed, a thing of great beauty.

Second: I bought one of your books. I dearly hope it's good. ;) It's excellent!

Third: the actual question.

It's a bit of an offshoot from the one two pages ago ("Did Solomon write Ecclesiastes?"). What is the current state of knowledge of the dating and authorship of the Old Testament books? And what of their historicity?

Thank you once again for maintaining such a great series of threads.

regards,
 
I'm considering reexamining Christianity after Plotinus's uber-post. Believing would be a lot easier if I didn't feel guilty about not taking the Bible literally and as being the last authoritative word. It's too bad that I was raised around fundies to begin with. MY life could have been a lot more pleasant.
 
@Plotinus- 2 Timothy 3:16 affirms the inspiration of the word. To deny that is to deny the Bible's validity, which calls the entire book into question.

Even if the Bible was infallible, your interpretation of it certainly is not.

And I recall that you admitted that even you do not believe that everything that is in Genesis (e.g. the genealogies)
 
I'm considering reexamining Christianity after Plotinus's uber-post. Believing would be a lot easier if I didn't feel guilty about not taking the Bible literally and as being the last authoritative word. It's too bad that I was raised around fundies to begin with. MY life could have been a lot more pleasant.

Plotinus: Reviving guilt-free Christianity in 2000 words! :D
 
I'm considering reexamining Christianity after Plotinus's uber-post. Believing would be a lot easier if I didn't feel guilty about not taking the Bible literally and as being the last authoritative word. It's too bad that I was raised around fundies to begin with. MY life could have been a lot more pleasant.
Don't. Even if it's not literally true, it's still ridiculous and still features yahweh promoting obviously immoral actions.
 
I'm considering reexamining Christianity after Plotinus's uber-post. Believing would be a lot easier if I didn't feel guilty about not taking the Bible literally and as being the last authoritative word. It's too bad that I was raised around fundies to begin with. MY life could have been a lot more pleasant.

I encourage you to do so, despite the fact that I do not agree with him, it is certainly a good thing to consider.

Even if the Bible was infallible, your interpretation of it certainly is not.

Correct.

And I recall that you admitted that even you do not believe that everything that is in Genesis (e.g. the genealogies)

No, I believe it perfectly. They skipped less important generations most likely however, as did most genealogies back then.
 
"Waters"? Looks to me like you've fallen on the first verse... :mischief:

how so?

Wait, if the Earth was formless and empty, then how was there waters? :dubious:

Look at how Genesis 1:9-10 defines "Earth" - the dry land that appeared from under the waters. The "dry land" wasn't dry in Gen 1:2, it was under the "deep" and darkness was on the face of the waters... That was the situation before God created anything...
 
I'm adding to the chorus of praise for a specific post in this thread. While it may have been aimed at biblical literalism, I feel it also has value in refuting the notion that religion is incompatible with rational thought ([/gross simplification]). As a graduate in physics, I'm exposed to this notion a lot.

Second: I bought one of your books. I dearly hope it's good. ;)

I'd be interested in knowing what book this is. PM me if required.
 
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