Aspiring Rapper's MAFIA- Game Thread

[Cass_]

Cass, how do you feel about Edse?

Generally not fantastic but tbh he reads much the same as in your Snake game IMO - overly consensusy, low posting with opportunistic votes - but there he was Town. So IDK?

I can back this up.

You what? Weird thing to defend on my behalf...

Cass, why do you ask so many questions. I could tell you the wolf leans of most of the thread, but I don't have a clue where you stand.

You don't seem to push anyone.

The bold is pretty fair, since I haven't given leans in a while. I'm struggling with the volume/being tired but I'll try and pull stuff together soon.

Questions are normal for me and the part about me not pushing isn't true - the questions are my method of pushing until I get a stronger feel for who could be scum. LMK if you want further explanation.

 

[Glossysushi]

Cass has now possibly made herself look even more villa. I cannot see her/Cuth interactions as anything other than v/w.
Unlikely w/v.

 

[Glossysushi]

I'm not sure that people understand the concept of a random vote. I rolled 1d100, divided it by four and voted for KM based on that. Would you prefer a spurious reason instead?

I don't know if I buy that it was a random vote. I get DnD dice, but yeah, no. Doesn't seem random to me.

 

[Glossysushi]

Ladies and gentlemen, may I propose an edse lynch on the grounds of this post?

Thank you.

Unvote, edse

Take a look at my recent reads list and tell me why you want to lynch edse over everyone else.

 

[Lohrenswald]

lohrenswald- Initially I liked her interactions with Lassie, but right now she's skating by on nothing but a wide amount of thread consensus that she's town. She needs to step it up. Town lean.

And you need to stop triple posting

But honestly I don't know what you want

like

Actually I was wondering what high posters meant lol

anyway, you are a bit all over the place, which makes me wonder about you.

Visorslash remains impossible to read for me

I can't tell much about most other people though

this is still all I've got

I know the rest of the thread has figured Visorslash isn't mafia but I haven't been convinced of that

 

[Mat93]

yeah, it would be a pity if we accidentally lynched a scum today, wouldn't it?

WIFOM

I can back this up.

Defending of Cass, multiple examples in the thread. PIS. My thoughts similar to Glossy's:

Cuth is doing a lot of white knighting, soft defending, and some buddying towards Cass.

Yes. But a certain joke that is more often scum than not. Like I've said, I've also seen you use tactics like this as scum and I totally don't put it past you.

Otherwise I lynch edse or Mat93.

Multiple cases made on multiple people, but yet this post:

@glossysushi what would you think of an edse lynch?

Refusing to actually attempt to lynch people until you know the thoughts of multiple people first. Wanting to follow consenus, not wanting to go out on a limb yourself. So you can defend with 'I wasn't the only one who found him scummy and wanting to lynch him'. Further PIS

Also very strong OMGUS. I haven't even been voted (so far), and edse has suspicion, but is unlikely to be lynched today without someone championing it. Both however have voted for you.

Vote:Al Sips I have no objections to.

I'm extremely interested in why Cuth has objections to Al Sips as a lynch. Made almost no posts about him (IIRC), but he is one of the main lynch candidates right now, and going up. Alternative bandwagon to defend scum buddy? If Cuth flips, Al Sips is my #1 suspect.

Okay, perfect.

Has some evidence that Glossy will support his lynch (not concrete, but that Glossy could be persuaded). Only after this does he go for it.

cuthilius- Very strange reaction to Visor, then switch to me looks strange after I move off Visor. Doesn't think that visor and I are teamed, yet has us as his top scum reads. Compare his play this game to Mel Gibson, and I think we've got a winner. Scum.

Meta read on him also.


Shorter version: WIFOM, PIS, OMGUS, and not starting an attempt to lynch someone without having other people's views on the candidate first. Gut feeling, and very strong gut feeling on Al Sips/Cuth being scum team. If Cuth flips, will be unwilling to not vote for Al Sips.

 

[Arakhor]

If you really know my "meta". KM, whatever that is, then you'll know that (a) I have a distressing habit of being compulsively honest and (b) that I am really slow at building up reads on people.

I don't know if I buy that it was a random vote. I get DnD dice, but yeah, no. Doesn't seem random to me.

I'm sorry to hear that. I'm surprised that KM reacted so negatively to said vote, when no one else was voting for him. That alone is suspicious.

Would you not agree that there's enough content at this point to invalidate any sort of random voting? See:my case on edse, for example, or read sushi.

I tend to think that you are scum, Cuthilius, whatever game we're playing in together, so whilst I'm willing to believe that Visor was just messing around by claiming to be scum (because he's done sillier things than that before), your name stuck in my mind from his "list". I do recall your post about Edse, but we're only halfway through the day. More information will come to light in due course.

 

[Cuthillius]

WIFOM

Defending of Cass, multiple examples in the thread. PIS. My thoughts similar to Glossy's:

I am defending Cass because last game I played with her nobody else had much experience with her and she got lynched later on as a PR after I'd died, while I could pretty strongly clear her based on playing completely differently but hadn't mentioned it. I will note that Mat/Cass is possible based off this.

Multiple cases made on multiple people, but yet this post:

that post was making sure glossy did not agree strongly with an edse lynch

Refusing to actually attempt to lynch people until you know the thoughts of multiple people first. Wanting to follow consenus, not wanting to go out on a limb yourself. So you can defend with 'I wasn't the only one who found him scummy and wanting to lynch him'. Further PIS

Also very strong OMGUS. I haven't even been voted (so far), and edse has suspicion, but is unlikely to be lynched today without someone championing it. Both however have voted for you.

how is that OMGUS? i agree my main justification for voting him is that he voted me, but not because of that. because of the way he said it and presented it. it's horrible

I'm extremely interested in why Cuth has objections to Al Sips as a lynch. Made almost no posts about him (IIRC), but he is one of the main lynch candidates right now, and going up. Alternative bandwagon to defend scum buddy? If Cuth flips, Al Sips is my #1 suspect.

I feel like most of the justification on him is "mostly inactive, and that's a little funny". He's not anywhere near the scummiest of people.

Has some evidence that Glossy will support his lynch (not concrete, but that Glossy could be persuaded). Only after this does he go for it.

That's the opposite of what I was doing. I'm proposing a lynch that might be more popular than my main target, but if my strongest scumread was actually okay with the lynch then I would stay miles away from it right now.

Meta read on him also.

It's not a very good meta read, because she hasn't even said why it's similar; and it isn't at all.

Shorter version: WIFOM, PIS, OMGUS, and not starting an attempt to lynch someone without having other people's views on the candidate first. Gut feeling, and very strong gut feeling on Al Sips/Cuth being scum team. If Cuth flips, will be unwilling to not vote for Al Sips.

I'm not sure what "PIS" is, but I'm not polling to see if it's a viable lynch, but rather to try and convince other people that I am correct. Which is the point.

 

[Cuthillius]

edse- Has posted very little. Seems scummy to me, so I'm reading him as the opposite because I can't read him apparently. Town lean.

read:scum partners


glossy, you think Al is scum because he hasn't posted much and not posting much is scummy, correct?

 

[Mat93]

I'm not sure what "PIS" is, but I'm not polling to see if it's a viable lynch, but rather to try and convince other people that I am correct. Which is the point.

Am I correct in saying that your entire lynching strategy is to flip around and see who votes for it, in order to be able to make links between people in future days?

Rather than lynching scum.


Links are useful, however way more useful on a dead scum. You probably won't have dead scum unless you lynch them (per rules, no vig, so at best 1/2 town kills outside of lynches).

 

[Glossysushi]

If you really know my "meta". KM, whatever that is, then you'll know that (a) I have a distressing habit of being compulsively honest and (b) that I am really slow at building up reads on people.



I'm sorry to hear that. I'm surprised that KM reacted so negatively to said vote, when no one else was voting for him. That alone is suspicious.



I tend to think that you are scum, Cuthilius, whatever game we're playing in together, so whilst I'm willing to believe that Visor was just messing around by claiming to be scum (because he's done sillier things than that before), your name stuck in my mind from his "list". I do recall your post about Edse, but we're only halfway through the day. More information will come to light in due course.

This post makes me want to reevaluate you. You see, KM's reaction is suspicious. Only if your vote wasn't random do I think that both of you are scum.

This is weird, but I really like this post. Arakhtor trending up. Never thought I'd say these words.

 

[Cass_]

Visor - Why the change to Al Sips, brave move given the bashing LL has had from Zack "lock" Town.

I don't mind the actual question, but what do LL/Zack have to do with Visor's change from Sushi to Al Sips?

I don't like drawing attention to myself in any game, really, but in this case, it's because there was so much going on, I lost the thread some time ago. However, since I do have a pair of d10s in my bedroom... *roll* Vote: KingMorgan.

This is Al's total contribution, his first post was misguided but he recovers well in the 2nd!

Not sure I could vote for him based on those posts but I can see why you like him for a scummer.



Really? I don't buy this at all, not from you Arahkor, no way have you rolled the dice - there is too much info in this thread for you roll a dice as a townie, thats a scum move based on your meta.

5 glossy
4 visor
4 cuthilius

There seems to be 4 ppl who have not voted, so it seems we can't come to a majority as yet. I think maybe its time to move on, not sure we can achieve much more in this phase and more pages mean more complaints.

Is there a compromise candidate for the lynch, post your top 3 scummers.

1. Visor
2. Landlubber
3.Arakhor

I'd like to see the interaction between KingMorgan and Arakhor play out a little more. I'm getting too tired for brainwork, quick ISOs show they're both posting with a similar attitude/style. At first I read Arakhor scummy for that, now I'm not so sure.

@ Arakhor - was the vote really random, or does something make you think KingMorgan is scum?

@KingMorgan, can you pls explain:
1. The reasoning for early vote on Visor?
2. Why, for each of your current WTL?
3. Why Glossysushi/Lohren/GK are no longer WTL for you?

I liked your #374/previous WTL and agreed with the rationale for Visor-Sushi scum buddies

Spoiler :

Your wrong with saying that I always vote you day1 Visor, also odd you claim it? As if to negate the value of vote? I believe there has been 1 occasion for me voting you on the 1st day, 2 if you count today. Probably day2 is my favourite visorvote day.

I like Sushi and Visor for scum buddies, Sushis late arrival in the wolf QT has inspired Visor, hence the strange meta we see, I do feel they are egging each other on to greater heights of fluff and banter. Plenty of back and forth and i'm sure some inside jokes, batter Visor for a bit, do a quick thread pole then introduce a new suspect.

Lynch Pool
Arakhor - he seems worried about meta
golden1knight - i've seen him around, but discourteous not to post some fluff at the very least
Lorenswald - also worried about meta felt the need to post "evidence"
Sushi - scummy, but tries hard
Visor - Complementary about English Cricket = scum

But I'm curious about the progression from there. As far as I can tell you gave no real reasons for Visor/Arakhor=Scum reads at the time of vote/with reads (WRT Visor, English Cricket doesn't count) and I'm curious as to why Glossysushi/Lohrenswald/GK are no longer in your WTL as I don't see much content change in any of their posts beyond one post from GK with a consensus-random vote and Glossy saying she was sorry, which doesn't seem enough.

This is bad. IMO.

Votes need to be shifted onto either Cuth or Al Sips

Have you answered me re your progression on Cuth yet?

...indeed. I'm still trying to reread.

Vote: Al Sipsclar

Why Al Sips over Cuth?

 

[Glossysushi]

read:scum partners


glossy, you think Al is scum because he hasn't posted much and not posting much is scummy, correct?

I find Al scummy because he 1) has not posted as much as he should, given the meta supplied by others that he should post more as town 2) only voting visor and not giving thoughts on other people 3) possible associations/links to other scum, including you.

 

[Cuthillius]

Am I correct in saying that your entire lynching strategy is to flip around and see who votes for it, in order to be able to make links between people in future days?

Rather than lynching scum.


Links are useful, however way more useful on a dead scum. You probably won't have dead scum unless you lynch them (per rules, no vig, so at best 1/2 town kills outside of lynches).

Wait, what? You aren't making a whole lot of sense right now?

I think edse's scum. I also think sushi is scum. Thus, I want to make sure sushi does not think we should lynch edse, because then they are probably not w/w and sushi is a stronger lead.

You may be asking why not lynch sushi? because that wagon is probably not going to end up going through, and like you said the goal is to lynch wolves. Thus I default to next most suspicious that most people aren't looking at

 

[Cass_]

Glossysushi lock town. Just think about it; why would she get this amount of heat and votes if she is scum? If she is scum with that amount of post and motivation, she would be leading that scum team - I highly doubt her scum buddies would be voting her in that situation, especially when it's easy enough to find reasons that she is town as explanation for not doing so. I doubt all those who are voting for her/finding her scummy are town, as I still haven't seen a strong case/argument against her.

On the other side, it's obvious why the scum would want her out, when she is this dedicated.

Noted, although IMO this logic makes little sense. ?Defense/TMI/Confused?

Visorslash probably also always town
So start finding some new wagons.

Anyone is welcome to join me on Murska, I haven't liked his posts so far.

What particularly haven't you liked?

yeah, it would be a pity if we accidentally lynched a scum today, wouldn't it?

Sarcasm is a bad look here IMO, and I can't figure you and Visor out. You think you/Al Sips are bad options? I get why you'd be annoyed at you being a pick if you're Town, but why should the option of Al Sips bother you?

Here are edse's posts. There are three that are game-related, one is replying Lassie saying that Ken's probably town, and wait i just read the last one

uuhhhh

soo legato doesn't count?

i think he's the only one who's used meta, and?

lol are you seriously trusting Visor? because he has a large portion of the votes on him as well

um i really don't know what to do with this

Okay, anyway. He votes Zack for a mislynch, which is probably a joke, but at that point why bother, and then votes me for...

Apart from the fact he's voting you, what's different about Edse's play in comparison with that in the Org Snake game?

You joked about being a wolf for too long, and the way you're interacting with certain people is a little strange

My vote is on sushi because she is buddying heavily, flip-flopping, her interaction with you over time was really strange, and her posting is inconsistent.

Which interactions with Visor-others are strange?
How is Sushi's posting inconsistent?

Okay, cheers.

IIRC I did see him play scum once, and IIRC it was sort of similar to this?

I honestly don't remember, but I'd like him to show up again.

Vague, but I agree.

 

[Glossysushi]

The problem is that edse has done a lot less than me. There is not a real reason imo that you suddenly switched to edse. Put your money where your mouth is and vote me if you think I am scum.

 

[Cuthillius]

I find Al scummy because he 1) has not posted as much as he should, given the meta supplied by others that he should post more as town 2) only voting visor and not giving thoughts on other people 3) possible associations/links to other scum, including you.

At that point I'd rather you lynch me because at least there's plenty of information. Just lynching an inactive is pretty pointless, and a shot in the dark. At least give him another day and see if posting picks up or something.

 

[Glossysushi]

At that point I'd rather you lynch me because at least there's plenty of information. Just lynching an inactive is pretty pointless, and a shot in the dark. At least give him another day and see if posting picks up or something.

Uhhhh...
Then why do you want to lynch edse > me atm?

See bolded.

 

[Lohrenswald]

okay so what does WTL mean

 

[Mat93]

@Cuth: How is a question nonsense? It seems a valid read of your intentions based on your posts. With me stating my disagreement with your intentions.

Also PIS, perfect information syndrome.

At that point I'd rather you lynch me because at least there's plenty of information.

I cannot even with this post.


You know 100% factually your role. Let us assume you are town. You are saying you would rather lynch someone who is 100% confirmed to you as town, than someone else, who unless they are your mason, you have no way of knowing are town on day 1. The odds of you dieing and being scum would be 0. The odds of him being scum are greater than 0.