Aspiring Rapper's MAFIA- Game Thread

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I think this is accurate:

Al Sipsclar: 5 (landlubber, Pouter Pigeon, Murska, Xym, Visorslash)
Cuthillius: 4 (edse, GoldenKnight, Mat93, Glossysushi)
Glossysushi: 3 (Jarrema, Kennigit, Takhisis)
Lassie: 3 (Lohrenswald, Zack, Choxorn)
Visorslash: 2 (Al Sipsclar, Newyn)
Choxorn: 2 (Cass, Cuthillius)
KingMorgan: 2 (Lassie, Arakhor)
GoldenKnight: 1 (Legato Endless)
landlubber: 1 (KingMorgan)
Zack: 1 (Autolycus)
edse: 1 (Backwards Logic)

Not Voting: 2 (BSmith1068, Sooh)

Looks like we were wrong about Lassie over-reacting to having one vote on him- Lohren still has a vote on him, so that was actually vote #2 on Lassie. Our bad, I'd totally forgotten that Lohren had ever voted for Lassie. Still a pretty big flinch, if you ask me.
 
So, I just skipped to the last page (in my kid-sized 20-post pages) and I see that things already got uncivil, and I'm topping the board! :goodjob:

Sorry, I can't keep up with you, guys. I've got to page 17, and I don't think I've got the time to read the rest.

Allow me to explain my vote on Visor.
Helpful, eager to read and clear, very interested in substance. I'm getting none of that here.
This. Visor, I actually do hold you to a high standard. One that I'm aspiring to achieve myself, but apparently, not in this game. :)

It comes to rewards/risks. Risk of you being scum and your inevitable gloating in the end that you told us this on D1 but nobody believed you, outweighs any reward that an unhelpful town Visor may bring to the table.

Its precisely what I am saying. You are expecting me to be highly analytical 10 hours into a 72+ hour phase of D1.

I am not God. (yet).
Well, I already have been worshipping you, so you may just as well start acting like one. "What Would Visor Do?" - is the question I sometimes ask myself when playing mafia. :)

Alright, Visor seems to come to his senses by page 17, so I'm going to Unvote, though certainly regret it later, when he flips scum.
I like Lassie and Glossy driving the discussion and prodding folks for reaction. This is something I usually try to do, too.
Cuthillius I find hard to read. I have a scum bias against him, even when he's town. :(
Similarly, I always have a town bias for landlubber, even when he's scum.
Under no circumstances I'm going to defend Takhisis this game. :)

Cass_ has voted early in the day phase. That is something she flat out refused in the last game we played together. Why the policy change?
 
I see three possible explanations:

- You and sushi are mafia partners. Seems a little blatant in the defense. Also I see no real reason to suspect sushi.

- You and sushi are mason partners. Possible, especially since you seem concerned about the number of votes sushi has been getting, and masons tend to freak out when their partner is a lynch candidate. Though we're still almost two full days away from deadline, she's nowhere close to a hammer, and I feel like their are other wagons with more momentum (hard to tell without an updated tally).

- You are wolf and sushi is town. Using your perfect information of everyone's alignment, you know sushi is town and want to try and buddy up with the top-posting townie and try to get on their good side. I find this one the most likely.

Unvote, Vote: Lassie

Exactly what my thoughts would be if I was better mafia player (I just have non-fully-verbalized thoughts going along this lines).
I was not so sure to do it before, but I think that lynching Sushi or Lassie will give us important info. Given higher possibility that Lassie is scum, I will vote: Lassie.

Post 90 more times. Then I'll be convinced of how :)ing town you are.

good joke :)

There's really no reason for this edgy attitude of yours. Welcome on my ignore list(hopefully there is one).

TBH, I dont think he was offensive. He always is a little... rough. Welcome to the Zack's world.
(I also think it is weak town tell for him)
 
@Cass - Thanks for the re quote, here is an answer.

@KingMorgan, can you pls explain:
1. The reasoning for early vote on Visor?
A- His laziness and wolf jokes, he was not posting as town Visor, usually he will have called out and voted for half the thread on D1.

2. Why, for each of your current WTL?
The people I listed were people I could lynch if we were going for a compromise candidate, secondary on my scum list if you like, thought I made this clear in my original post.

3. Why Glossysushi/Lohren/GK are no longer WTL for you?
Oh they are on my list aright, still minor suspects until there is more data. Excluding Sushi of course, enough data on them.

I am tired of Day 1, it is becoming bad tempered and circular, I don;t see a lot of progress being made, so hence my top 3 of possible lynchables.

To be honest I'm just as happy to follow the game from the sidelines after seeing some of the constant rubbish posted by some ppl, I really don't need to hear an analysis on other peoples one line throwaway comments.

Unvote Vote: Lassie your grasping and placing your vote where you think the wind will blow. Very wolf like.
 
Unvote; Vote: Lassie.

Known no cop game. You can easily do lots of damage under the guise of "solving the game" before you're caught so I don't buy your I'm obviously the towniest person here argument.
Also, to be perfectly honest, I'm voting for you about 20% for the reason I gave and 80% because I don't like the attitude of your posts.
 
Looks like we were wrong about Lassie over-reacting to having one vote on him- Lohren still has a vote on him, so that was actually vote #2 on Lassie. Our bad, I'd totally forgotten that Lohren had ever voted for Lassie. Still a pretty big flinch, if you ask me.

Yea that was originally a joke vote I considered changing in time, but I don't like the recent development with Lassie, so I'll keep that vote.
 
@ Arakhor - was the vote really random, or does something make you think KingMorgan is scum?

How many more times do you need me to say that, yes, it was random? You're not going to catch me in a lie because it isn't one! :crazyeye:

As it happens, KM is now one of my scum-leans because of the way he flinched so much, but at the time, I thought nothing of it.

Just one question I have about this- There's 26 players in the thread that aren't you. 100 divided by 4 is 25, not 26. So, how did you account for that? Did you pick someone not to vote for? Were you willing to vote for anyone but made a few people less likely?

I was quoting Kennigit at the time, so I decided to deliberately exclude him. 46 on 1d100 converts to 12 and KM is the 12th person alphabetically in the player list, excluding myself and Kennigit.

This post struck me as being pretty scummy- I'm really not liking the "I'm objectively the most townie because I'm doing things and others are lurking" conclusion, because I've seen plenty of scum play fairly actively and come up with reads and thoughts to share.

I agree. "I'm so townie because X" is total hot air.

I see three possible explanations:
- You and sushi are mafia partners. Seems a little blatant in the defense. Also I see no real reason to suspect sushi.
- You and sushi are mason partners. Possible, especially since you seem concerned about the number of votes sushi has been getting, and masons tend to freak out when their partner is a lynch candidate. Though we're still almost two full days away from deadline, she's nowhere close to a hammer, and I feel like their are other wagons with more momentum (hard to tell without an updated tally).
- You are wolf and sushi is town. Using your perfect information of everyone's alignment, you know sushi is town and want to try and buddy up with the top-posting townie and try to get on their good side. I find this one the most likely.

I agree with this analysis too. I even said much the same in different words earlier.
 
For my own sanity, can we include the word "Vote:" when we vote for a player?

I'm having trouble telling if the bolded names are votes, some players are doing @ (bolded name) which to me obviously indicates you're just trying to get their attention, others are using "vote:" and some are simply bolding names.

Everyone whose vote is simply a bolded name, please clarify that for me. Also please use "vote:".

It's my bad for not asking in the rulebook.
 
Spoiler :

al sipsclar votes Cass_
arakhor votes KingMorgan
autolycus votes Zack
backwards logic votes edse
bsmith votes
cass_ votes choxorn
choxorn votes Lassie
cuthilius votes choxorn
edse votes Cuthillius
glossysushi votes Cuthillius
golden1knight votes Cuthillius
jarrema votes Lassie
kennigit votes Glossysushi
kingmorgan votes Lassie
landlubber votes Al Sipsclar
lassie votes KingMorgan
legato endless votes Golden1Knight
lohrenswald votes Lassie
mat93 votes Cuthillius
murska votes Al Sipsclar
newyn votes Lassie
pouter pigeon votes Al Sipsclar
sooh votes
takhisis votes Glossysushi
visorslash votes Al Sipsclar
xym votes Al Sipsclar
zack votes Lassie

* Indicates first to reach vote total in the event of a tie


Lassie: 6 (Choxorn, KingMorgan, Lohrenswald, Newyn, Zack, Jarrema) -fixed Jarrema's vote

Al Sipsclar: 5 (landlubber, Murska, Pouter Pigeon, Visorslash, Xym)

Cuthillius: 4 (edse, Glossysushi, Golden1knight, Mat93)

Glossysushi: 2 (Kennigit, Takhisis)
KingMorgan: 2 (Arakhor, Lassie)
Choxorn: 2 (Cass, Cuthillius)

Cass: 1 (Al Sipsclar)
Zack: 1 (Autolycus)
Edse: 1 (Backwards Logic)
Golden1Knight: 1 (Legato Endless)

No Vote: 2 (BSmith, Sooh)
 
Pizza, I vote: Lassie few posts ago
 
RE: Lassie

I started to have suspicions of him too after reading his angry posts, but then I remembered one of the games we'd recently played together in which we were both town. He tends to stand up for me when he strongly believes I'm town, and I think that there are some sites in which people 'lock clear' their strongest town reads for very good reasons....which is how I won my last wolf game. Yeah, don't lock clear, imo.

The only problem with this is that I've never seen him get mad to this extent as town, and his activity level seems higher than usual. I don't know yet what this means.

I've actually never seen scum!Lassie so what I'm going to do before the deadline is take a look at his past scum games.

@Lassie, could you link me some for reference?
 
Aaaand I'm still working on the Cuthilius Mel Gibson analysis. At this moment, I like my vote.

Even more so because of Cuth's vote hopping to whichever wagon that seems to be gaining speed...which is opportunistic and not a great look at all. Also, little to no reasoning given, which is quite strange, especially because he only mentioned me and visor as his top scum reads, suddenly went for edse out of the blue, failed that, voted Choxorn because of read sheeping, and here we are... He's not voting either of his top scum reads, and has not been original about his vote.

Why are y'all not voting Cuthilius? Someone tell me how this is townie behavior.
*fixed typo
 
I'm not liking the Lassie bandwagon even without reading his past scum games for comparison.
1) the people on the bandwagon who have been 'unsure' of their reads are now suddenly sure that lynching Lassie is a great idea, because of what? A snappy attitude and hard defending of me? The first is irrelevant. It's a game. The second is okay, but did you even ask the question about what the dude actually does on a regular basis irt me?
2) the actual people who are voting Lassie, who as I mentioned before were 'uncertain' but now pretty ready to lynch him. Let's also mention how a lot of them haven't been contributing until this point, only coming in to make Lassie into the lead wagon.
Here, I'll even call you guys out for it:

KingMorgan (why have you been disingenuous about your top scum reads? Why did you not want to lynch Visor anymore, and why did Lassie suddenly get on your list?)

Newyn (you've only voted visor in the joke stage. He claims you're town, but what have you done besides join a popular wagon? At least you admitted that it was because you disliked Lassie's attitude. That's pretty townie.)

Lohrenswald (I thought you were unsure of everything? How did you suddenly make up your mind to vote a quickly growing wagon? Have you caught up, and what are your reads?)

Choxorn (so you're caught up now? What do you think of the votes on you? What do you think of the people who are voting with you?)

Zack (Besides the angry yelling you've done at landlubber and Lassie, which apparently is townie, what have you done? Why aren't you voting landlubber anymore, and why is Lassie more important to lynch than him?)

Jarrema (So, you've consistently voted the top posters. Visor, me, Lassie. Before, you were convinced that I was scum. You said that Lassie's head should roll if I flipped scum. Already you were demonstrating intent for his lynch. Have you dropped the thought of lynching Visor? Me? Why?)
 
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