Boomers: The Evil Generation!

[Estebonrober]

And a lot of boomers jumped off the ship when that happened, and you do a disservice to them lumping them all together. I wouldn't claim that all blacks are responsible for gang violence because it would sound stupid.

I'm lumping them together as a voting block that has disproportionately been boomer. This is statistical fact. All blacks being responsible for gang violence isnt statistical fact.

Anyways you are right @rah that only voting can fix this.

 

[AmazonQueen]

Personally I'm going to blame Texans. Jimmy Carter was the last time Texas voted for a Democrat President and in at least 2 cases (Dubya vs. Gore and Trump) if Texas had gone Democrat it would've made the difference.
The 2 worst administrations since 1945 are the fault of Texans. Don't try telling me they didn't all vote Republican, doesn't matter when we are picking scapegoats.

 

[Broken_Erika]

I blame those stupid humans. If there weren't any humans, we wouldn't have these kinds of problems. SO the solution is simple, just gotta get rid of those despicable humans! Let the dolphins have their chance at ruling the world.

 

[Patine]

Oh no no no you don;t get to do that, they took another hard right turn the moment Obama was elected during the worst recession the US has seen in a lifetime. That hard right turn was systematically race baiting, poor bashing, government hating nonsense. That has pulled the a disproportionate amount of boomers with it. We aren't making this crap up or anything.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-...mographic-blowback-that-elected-donald-trump/

I think he just wants specific groups, inherent groups, to blame for Trump, as close to solid, lump demographic support as possible to validate his cause and make easy blame targets, to say "THEY supported Trump and caused this mess. THEY are who is to be blamed. Not the "good' people (whoever the "good" people are)." He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, the Dark Lord in the '30's and '40's used "blame" demographics to focus rage for his nation's problems too - in his case, such demographics were Jews, Romani, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Socialists and Communists - but the core concept and idea behind it were the same, at the base.

 

[Synobun]

Not the "good' people (whoever the "good" people are)." He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, the Dark Lord in the '30's and '40's used "blame" demographics to focus rage for his nation's problems too - in his case, such demographics were Jews, Romani, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Socialists and Communists - but the core concept and idea behind it were the same, at the base.

Is this why there are articles bleating about the Millennials killing off Applebees and Hooters? Are we putting Boomers on trains to dying breastaurants?

 

[Patine]

Is this why there are articles bleating about the Millennials killing off Applebees and Hooters? Are we putting Boomers on trains to dying breastaurants?

I didn't it always led to the same extreme application, at the end. The mentality is the same, at the root. It doesn't always play out the same. For instance, African-Americans in the Jim Crow Deep South, who were popularly blamed for the economic destitution of the region following the Civil War, Reconstruction-era laws and politics, and believed by many as an almost neurotic myth that their men lived only to rape White women, were excluded from all political and economic power and had, de facto, if not de jure, their rights and protections before the law whittled down to next to nothing, but they weren't herded into camps and genocided, as an example of alternate situation.

 

[Synobun]

I didn't it always led to the same extreme application, at the end. The mentality is the same, at the root. It doesn't always play out the same. For instance, African-Americans in the Jim Crow Deep South, who were popularly blamed for the economic destitution of the region following the Civil War, Reconstruction-era laws and politics, and believed by many as an almost neurotic myth that their men lived only to rape White women, were excluded from all political and economic power and had, de facto, if not de jure, their rights and protections before the law whittled down to next to nothing, but they weren't herded into camps and genocided, as an example of alternate situation.

Surely you are capable of sussing out the difference between racist policy against blacks and saying that Baby Boomers largely vote to oppress others and reject climate action.

Ageist is now the only acceptable prejudice.

Not really.

 

[Lexicus]

Well you are grouping people together and blaming them for something as a group. Some parts of a group may have carried out the thing you blame the group for but not all. Prejudice against older people is ageist.

Some parts of the group just sat and watched while the others carried out the thing. What was required for the triumph of evil again?

 

[Kaitzilla]

I'm really prejudiced against young people.

 

[AmazonQueen]

Some parts of the group just sat and watched while the others carried out the thing. What was required for the triumph of evil again?

And some parts opposed it.
Nor did all Boomers get that nice house in the suburbs or a cheap college education. Pre-Reagan US wasn't a paradise for all.

 

[Broken_Erika]

I'm really prejudiced against young people.

I'm just prejudiced against humans.

 

[Synobun]

Well you are grouping people together and blaming them for something as a group. Some parts of a group may have carried out the thing you blame the group for but not all. Prejudice against older people is ageist.

What prejudice? Literally nothing is being done against Baby Boomers.

I imagine most of us would be very pleased if those responsible stepped aside or started to vote for progressive policy. This applies to all age groups and not just Boomers. More relevant to you, the pro-Brexit blokes in their university's frosh are just as detrimental as the geriatric ones.

 

[Patine]

And some parts opposed it.
Nor did all Boomers get that nice house in the suburbs or a cheap college education. Pre-Reagan US wasn't a paradise for all.

Another notable point. Many of the opinions on that generation in the 50's to 70's to form the statistics linked above as "incriminating evidence" were done by telephone - and a significant percentage of the U.S. population in the 50's to the '70's didn't own their own telephone, and the need to own one's own telephone was not nearly as pressing as today, or even as it was in my youth.

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

For the record that piece is actually making an (imo pretty good) case that it's facebook and not Fox News and other right-wing propaganda outlets in traditional media that is driving the radicalization of the older folks who support Trump so solidly.

I'll see if I can find it but the data I saw a few years ago correlated the radicalization most commonly with talk radio, then talk tv, both well above social media, although maybe it's finally changing.

 

[Lexicus]

I'll see if I can find it but the data I saw a few years ago correlated the radicalization most commonly with talk radio, then talk tv, both well above social media, although maybe it's finally changing.

Without seeing the actual data I'll say I'm a bit skeptical. The article I posted noted that there just aren't that many people who watch Fox, at least compared with the number of Facebook users. I'm not sure there are many more who listen to talk radio.

Given the very rapid growth of the social media stuff that "few years ago" might be enough time to make a difference as well.

 

[Patine]

Surely you are capable of sussing out the difference between racist policy against blacks and saying that Baby Boomers largely vote to oppress others and reject climate action.

No, I'm not. And no rational, centred, thoughtful, ethical, person with any sense of perspective and an aversion to being deceived by vapid populist-style of one sort or another should be.

 

[Mouthwash]

And do you think this bothers leftists? I would hope that we are "consumed" ourselves: the alternative would be stagnation, the end of progress. If future generations don't regard me as a hopeless stuck-in-the-mud then I did something wrong.

I would have thought you'd concede at least the possibility of some leftist utopia finally emerging from the rubble. Knowing the fruitlessness of your struggle even as you carry it out seems, well, ominously familiar.

 

[Patine]

I would have thought you'd concede at least the possibility of some leftist utopia finally emerging from the rubble. Knowing the fruitlessness of your struggle even as you carry it out seems, well, sadly familiar.

Again (I think I've said this to you, specifically, several times now, and a bunch of times in general on this forum) there is ABSOLUTELY NO socio-political ideology of any coherent message, platform, ideal, or viewpoint called "Leftism." I don't think modern American and European Conservatives would like to lumped with Fascists, Islamic Fundamentalists, Kenyatta- and Nkrumah-style African Nationalists, Pre-Democratization Kuomintang, United Russia and the BJP, Monarchialists, Feudalists, numerous military junta dictatorships, old Deep South Democrats, the South African National Party and Rhodesian Front, and other such groups as just "Rightists," in debate and rhetoric, would they?

 

[Synobun]

No, I'm not. And no rational, centred, thoughtful, ethical, person with any sense of perspective and an aversion to being deceived by vapid populist-style of one sort or another should be.

Well, I'll gladly be a part of that irrational, off-kilter, thoughtless, unethical group then. Pip pip cheerio.

 

[Patine]

Well, I'll gladly be a part of that irrational, off-kilter, thoughtless, unethical group then. Pip pip cheerio.

Well, then you have, by your free choice, volition, and vocal declaration, CHOSEN, as an individual, to be a potentially destructive and ruinous force on the socio-political scheme and global civilization, and NOT just to be blamed for such things later by being lumped by demographics, and I can now judge you as such with a clean conscience.