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City State Elimination Thread

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by God of Kings, Apr 18, 2017.

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  1. Forster

    Forster Prince

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 21
    Brussels = 18 - 3 = 15 Rather my extra envoys go somewhere else.
    Carthage = 21
    Geneva = 19
    Hattusa = 16 + 1 = 17 Too many games without key resources.
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 22
    Mohenjo Daro = 11
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta = 17
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 23
     
  2. Kimiimaro

    Kimiimaro King

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 21
    Brussels = 15+1=16 - I must save Brussels! It has one of the most useful suzerain bonuses for me. I love building Wonders, and Brussels can save me a lot of cogs and time.
    Carthage = 21
    Geneva = 19
    Hattusa = 17
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 22
    Mohenjo Daro = 11-3=8 - As much as I don't like Carthage, I'll give my downvote to Mohenjo Daro. It isn't that hard to find a river, lake or oasis in game...
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta = 17
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 23
     
  3. Amrunril

    Amrunril Emperor

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 21
    Brussels = 16
    Carthage = 21
    Geneva = 16 (19 - 3) Not a reliable bonus, since maintaining peace requires cooperation from neighboring civs, and the science bonus is strong, but not nearly as strong as it would have been in Civ V.
    Hattusa = 17
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 22
    Mohenjo Daro = 8
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta = 18 (17 + 1) A massive boost to new cities, the ability to rush buy urgently needed walls, and substantial production savings in military cities.
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 23
     
  4. Siptah

    Siptah Eternal Chieftain

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 21
    Brussels = 16
    Carthage = 21
    Geneva = 16
    Hattusa = 17
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 22
    Mohenjo Daro = 5 (8-3) Not as strong as you might think at first. It's mostly useful if you find it very early.
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta = 18
    Yerevan = 23 (22+1) I don't care if most people don't like religious victories.
    Zanzibar 23
     
  5. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 21
    Brussels = 16
    Carthage = (21+1)=22 So it can match Kumasi and Muscat in score. It's great for getting more trade routes if you have several encampments in your cities, especially if you play Poland.
    Geneva = 16
    Hattusa = 17
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 22
    Mohenjo Daro = 5
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta = (18-3)=15 Just not a fan of this city-state's ability. It's useful if you have a lot of faith, but I rarely use it.
    Yerevan = 23
    Zanzibar 23
     
  6. Manifold

    Manifold ModderProtectionAdvocate

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 21
    Brussels = 16
    Carthage 22
    Geneva = 16
    Hattusa = 17
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 22
    Mohenjo Daro = 5
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta 16 (15+1) I like them a lot when I play Arabia.
    Yerevan = 20 (23-3) (I do not hear Hip Hop)
    Zanzibar 23
     
  7. LethalLeigh

    LethalLeigh Prince

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 22 (21+1) deserves to be in the top 10.
    Brussels = 16
    Carthage 22
    Geneva = 16
    Hattusa = 17
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 22
    Mohenjo Daro = 5
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta 16
    Yerevan = 17 (20-3) Only good if you are going for a religious victory.
    Zanzibar 23
     
  8. WillowBrook

    WillowBrook Lurker

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 22
    Brussels = 16
    Carthage = 22
    Geneva = 16
    Hattusa = 14 (17-3) I usually don't need it.
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 22
    Mohenjo Daro = 5
    Stockholm = 19 (18+1) more gpps can be quite valuable
    Valletta = 16
    Yerevan = 17
    Zanzibar = 23
     
  9. oedali

    oedali King

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 22
    Brussels = 16
    Carthage = 22
    Geneva = 16
    Hattusa = 14
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 22
    Mohenjo Daro = 5
    Stockholm = 19-3 = 16 Don't care about GPP
    Valletta = 16
    Yerevan = 17+1 = 18 Suze = religious victory guaranteed. Deserves top 5
    Zanzibar = 23
     
  10. Forster

    Forster Prince

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 22
    Brussels = 16
    Carthage = 22
    Geneva = 16
    Hattusa = 14 + 1 = 15 You may not usually need it, but when you do it is wonderful.
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 22
    Mohenjo Daro = 5 - 3 = 2 Not difficult to find rivers and lakes.
    Stockholm = 16
    Valletta = 16
    Yerevan = 18
    Zanzibar = 23
     
  11. God of Kings

    God of Kings Ruler of all heads of state

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    See here: https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/city-state-elimination-thread.614317/page-5#post-14738205 then here: https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/city-state-elimination-thread.614317/page-6#post-14738220

    Jakarta was missing for much of the game; it had 9, so I'm re-adding it:

    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 22
    Brussels = 16
    Carthage = 22
    Geneva = 16
    Hattusa = 15
    Jakarta = 9
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 22
    Mohenjo Daro = 2
    Stockholm = 16
    Valletta = 16
    Yerevan = 18
    Zanzibar = 23

    Now for my vote:

    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 22
    Brussels = 16
    Carthage = 22
    Geneva = 16
    Hattusa = 15
    Jakarta = 9 + 1 = 10 This is an apology for it being omitted
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 22
    Mohenjo Daro = 2 - 3 = ELIMINATED There's plenty of freshwater sources if you can look for them
    Stockholm = 16
    Valletta = 16
    Yerevan = 18
    Zanzibar = 23
     
  12. Kimiimaro

    Kimiimaro King

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 22
    Brussels = 16+1=17 - One of my favourites.
    Carthage = 22
    Geneva = 16
    Hattusa = 15
    Jakarta = 10
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 22
    Stockholm = 16
    Valletta = 16-3=13 - I build holy sites only in religious games, and I don't play religious games so often. My faith gain is almost always weak, so this bonus is useless for me.
    Yerevan = 18
    Zanzibar = 23
     
  13. Amrunril

    Amrunril Emperor

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 22
    Brussels =17
    Carthage = 22
    Geneva = 16
    Hattusa = 15
    Jakarta = 7 (10 - 3) I think this would be long gone if it hadn't accidentally been deleted it. It was down to 9 votes on page 5 and below Hong Kong, Amsterdam and Kabul, to name a few. The bonus requires too much set up and is pretty mediocre even once you do get it working.
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 22
    Stockholm = 16
    Valletta =14 (13 + 1) Massive jump start to new cities and a situational but potentially game changing defensive boost. Does require some faith to work, but there are lots of ways of getting it, and a little bit of situationality cuts down on competition.

    Yerevan = 18
    Zanzibar = 23
     
  14. jacksone kain

    jacksone kain Chieftain

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 22
    Brussels =17
    Carthage = 22+1= 23 - I love trade routes.
    Geneva = 16
    Hattusa = 15
    Jakarta = 7
    Kumasi = 22-3 = 19 - But only internal ones.
    Muscat = 22
    Stockholm = 16
    Valletta =14
    Yerevan = 18
    Zanzibar = 23
     
  15. Eliminator_Sr

    Eliminator_Sr Prince

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 22
    Brussels =17
    Carthage = 23
    Geneva = 16
    Hattusa = 15
    Jakarta = 7
    Kumasi = 19 + 1 = 20 (Internal routes are overrated and Kumasi generates enough culture to boost your purple research by a significant amount)
    Muscat = 22
    Stockholm = 16
    Valletta =14
    Yerevan = 18 - 3 = 15 (Yes it's a game changer for RV, but o/w you are wasting the envoys.)
    Zanzibar = 23
     
  16. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 22
    Brussels =17
    Carthage = 23
    Geneva = 16
    Hattusa = (15+1)=16 It helps when your early empire lacks Iron
    Jakarta = 7
    Kumasi = 20
    Muscat = 22
    Stockholm = 16
    Valletta =(14-3)=11 Faith buying walls?, meh...
    Yerevan = 15
    Zanzibar = 23
     
  17. gcareaga

    gcareaga Chieftain

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 22
    Brussels =17
    Carthage = 23
    Geneva = 16
    Hattusa = 16
    Jakarta = 7
    Kumasi = 20
    Muscat = 22
    Stockholm = 16
    Valletta 11-3=8: walls. *yawn*
    Yerevan = 15
    Zanzibar 23+1=24: amenities, amenities, amenities
     
  18. Manifold

    Manifold ModderProtectionAdvocate

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 22
    Brussels =17
    Carthage = 23
    Geneva = 16
    Hattusa = 16
    Jakarta = 7
    Kumasi = 20
    Muscat = 22
    Stockholm = 16
    Valletta 9 (8+1) walls:)
    Yerevan = 15
    Zanzibar =21 (24-3) see above
     
  19. bbbt

    bbbt Deity

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 22
    Brussels =18 (17+1) Production CSes are the best, and a discount on wonders is always appreciated
    Carthage = 23
    Geneva = 16
    Hattusa = 16
    Jakarta = 4 (7-3) Yeah, there's no way Jakarta would've lasted this long but for accidental removal. It's similar to amsterdam but worse, and amsterdam disappeared a while back. An interesting mechanic in theory that's not much reward in practice.
    Kumasi = 20
    Muscat = 22
    Stockholm = 16
    Valletta 9
    Yerevan = 15
    Zanzibar =21
     
  20. oedali

    oedali King

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 22
    Brussels =18
    Carthage = 23
    Geneva = 16
    Hattusa = 16
    Jakarta = 4
    Kumasi = 20
    Muscat = 22
    Stockholm = 16-3= 13 GPP bonus no use at higher diff
    Valletta 9
    Yerevan = 15+1= 16 Suze = RV guaranteed. Deserves top 5
    Zanzibar =21
     
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