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City State Elimination Thread

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by God of Kings, Apr 18, 2017.

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  1. Manifold

    Manifold ModderProtectionAdvocate

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    Amsterdam 3
    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 24
    Brussels = 19
    Carthage 21 (20+1) not longer long, then they are their own Civ
    Geneva = 18
    Kabul 10
    Hattusa = 18 (21-3) I rarely have problems with strategic goods
    Kumasi = 21
    Muscat = 23
    Mohenjo Daro =19
    Stockholm = 19
    Valletta = 23
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 24
     
  2. God of Kings

    God of Kings Ruler of all heads of state

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    Amsterdam 3 - 3 = ELIMINATED Domestic trade routes have more benefits than international trade routes most of the time, even with suzerainty over Amsterdam
    Auckland = 27 + 1 = 28 Makes settling on the coast that much better
    Buenos Aires = 24
    Brussels = 19
    Carthage 21
    Geneva = 18
    Kabul 10
    Hattusa = 18
    Kumasi = 21
    Muscat = 23
    Mohenjo Daro =19
    Stockholm = 19
    Valletta = 23
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 24
     
  3. Amrunril

    Amrunril Emperor

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    Auckland = 28
    Buenos Aires = 24
    Brussels = 19
    Carthage 21
    Geneva = 18
    Kabul 10
    Hattusa = 18
    Kumasi = 21
    Muscat = 20 (23 - 3) Takes a lot of cities to outstrip Buenos Aires and Zanzibar in raw amenities and gives less flexibility in distributing them.
    Mohenjo Daro =19
    Stockholm = 20 (19 + 1) This will essentially double your great person points in the early game (and quite a bit longer than that for artists and musicians), potentially winning you a lot of races for unique and powerful bonuses.
    Valletta = 23
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 24
     
  4. LethalLeigh

    LethalLeigh Prince

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    Auckland = 28
    Buenos Aires = 24
    Brussels = 19
    Carthage = 20
    Geneva = 18
    Kabul = 10
    Hattusa = 18
    Kumasi = 21
    Muscat = 23
    Mohenjo Daro =20 (19+1) nice to have full housing.
    Stockholm = 17 (20-3) I don't go for science CS.
    Valletta = 23
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 24
     
  5. Forster

    Forster Prince

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    Auckland = 28
    Buenos Aires = 24
    Brussels = 19
    Carthage = 20
    Geneva = 18
    Kabul = 10
    Hattusa = 18
    Kumasi = 21
    Muscat = 23
    Mohenjo Daro = 20 - 3 = 17 Other ways to get housing.
    Stockholm = 17 + 1 = Other people do go for those extra GP points.
    Valletta = 23
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 24
     
  6. bbbt

    bbbt Deity

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    Auckland = 29 (28 + 1) Coastal game changer
    Buenos Aires = 24
    Brussels = 19
    Carthage = 20
    Geneva = 18
    Kabul = 10
    Hattusa = 18
    Kumasi = 21
    Muscat = 23
    Mohenjo Daro = 14 (17-3) - Nice, but in many cases just making up for an aquaduct
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta = 23
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 24
     
  7. Siptah

    Siptah Eternal Chieftain

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    Auckland = 29
    Buenos Aires = 24
    Brussels = 19
    Carthage = 20
    Geneva = 18
    Kabul = 10
    Hattusa = 18
    Kumasi = 22 (21+1) takes care of your culture generation by itself
    Muscat = 23
    Mohenjo Daro = 14
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta = 20 (23-3) great suzerain bonus, but a militaristic CS
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 24
     
  8. Eliminator_Sr

    Eliminator_Sr Prince

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    Auckland = 29
    Buenos Aires = 24
    Brussels = 19
    Carthage = 20
    Geneva = 18
    Kabul = 10
    Hattusa = 18
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 23 - 3 = 20 (Too many amenity CS still left and this one seems like the weakest though Buenos Aires doesn't seem that strong either if it only gives +1 per resource)
    Mohenjo Daro = 14
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta = 20
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 24 + 1 = 25 (I'll give this one an upvote since it seems to win out for amenities)
     
  9. Kimiimaro

    Kimiimaro King

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    Auckland = 29
    Buenos Aires = 24
    Brussels = 19+1=20 - I'm always an enthusiastic wonder builder, so this CS is perfect for me.
    Carthage = 20-3=17 - I still don't like it. If I have it in my game, I don't go for it. There are always better city states to suzerain.
    Geneva = 18
    Kabul = 10
    Hattusa = 18
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 14
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta = 20
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 25
     
  10. gettingfat

    gettingfat Emperor

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    Auckland = 29
    Buenos Aires = 24-3=21 (over-rated... it actually doesn't provide too many amenities as expected)
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage =17 + 1=18 (the best for any one who knows how to use trade routes effectively..... combined with great Zimbabwe that's like an automatic victory ... people said they never build encampments but at immortal or higher the AI loves building encampments when there's a war, so almost half of the captured cities have prebuilt encampments anyway)
    Geneva = 18
    Kabul = 10
    Hattusa = 18
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 14
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta = 20
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 25
     
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  11. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    Auckland = 29
    Buenos Aires = 21
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage =18
    Geneva = (18+1)=19 It's a decent boost in science, plus I don't get into wars that often. Please don't criticize me for not warmongering. :p
    Kabul = (10-3)=7 I don't use their suzerain bonus that often, and gaining exp is not that hard.
    Hattusa = 18
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 14
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta = 20
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 25
     
  12. gcareaga

    gcareaga Chieftain

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    Auckland 29+1=30: synergy with Australia
    Buenos Aires = 21
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage =18
    Geneva = 19
    Kabul 7-3=4: xp levels seldom make a difference. If I fight, it is with overwhelming numbers
    Hattusa = 18
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 14
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta = 20
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 25
     
  13. Manifold

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    Auckland = 30
    Buenos Aires = 21
    Brussels = 20
    Carthage =19 (18+1) known
    Geneva = 19
    Kabul = 4
    Hattusa = 18
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 14
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta = 20
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 22 (25-3) by far not number one
     
  14. Amrunril

    Amrunril Emperor

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    Auckland = 30
    Buenos Aires = 21
    Brussels = 17 (20 - 3) a 15% bonus to a realatively small portion of your total production.
    Carthage =19
    Geneva = 19
    Kabul = 4
    Hattusa = 19 (18 + 1) With good use of encampments/upgrades, this means you will never have to worry about strategic resources.
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 14
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta = 20
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 22
     
  15. Eliminator_Sr

    Eliminator_Sr Prince

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    Auckland = 30 - 3 - 27 (Nice bonus but still pretty weak compared to king Carthage )
    Buenos Aires = 21
    Brussels = 17
    Carthage = 19 + 1 = 20 (Cause nothing compares .... nothing compares ... 2 Carthage!)
    Geneva = 19
    Kabul = 4
    Hattusa = 19
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 14
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta = 20
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 22
     
  16. Noble Zarkon

    Noble Zarkon Elite Quattromaster - Emperor (BTS) Super Moderator Hall of Fame Staff Supporter GOTM Staff

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 21
    Brussels = 17
    Carthage = 20
    Geneva = 19
    Kabul = 4 - 3 = 1 (Bonus comes too late in the game to be relevant)
    Hattusa = 19
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 14
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta = 20
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 22 + 1 = 23 (Love a unique bonus such as this)
     
  17. LethalLeigh

    LethalLeigh Prince

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 21
    Brussels = 17
    Carthage = 21 (20+1) Not my favorite but deserves to be top 5 .
    Geneva = 19
    Kabul = 0 (1-3) - ELIMINATED - Not top ten worthy
    Hattusa = 19
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 20
    Mohenjo Daro = 14
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta = 20
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 23
     
  18. bbbt

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 21
    Brussels = 17
    Carthage = 21
    Geneva = 19
    Hattusa = 19
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 21 (20 + 1) I'm likely to have at least 12-15 commercial districts. That's a lot of extra amenities.
    Mohenjo Daro = 11 (14-3) We're getting down there. Strong, but usually only affects a minority of my cities.
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta = 20
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 23
     
  19. Siptah

    Siptah Eternal Chieftain

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 21
    Brussels = 18 (17+1) I like wonders
    Carthage = 21
    Geneva = 19
    Hattusa = 16 (19-3) I usually get at least one of each resource or conquer/trade for one.
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = 21
    Mohenjo Daro = 11
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta = 20
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 23
     
  20. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    Auckland = 27
    Buenos Aires = 21
    Brussels = 18
    Carthage = 21
    Geneva = 19
    Hattusa = 16
    Kumasi = 22
    Muscat = (21+1)=22 It's a decent bonus, especially if you have landlocked cities who can only build commercial hubs.
    Mohenjo Daro = 11
    Stockholm = 18
    Valletta = (20-3)=17 I'm not big on generating faith
    Yerevan = 22
    Zanzibar 23
     
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