City State Elimination Thread

[Amrunril]

My votes yesterday got omitted by the following post, so I'm correcting those in addition to casting my new votes.

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo =14
Auckland = 26
Buenos Aires = 27
Brussels = 17
Carthage =22
Geneva = 20
Granada = 11
Hattusa = 25 (24 + 1) Comes close to negating strategic resource requirements entirely, since one copy is enough for upgrades or for building/buying units in your best military production cities.
Hong Kong = 8 (11 - 3) City projects are fairly situational, and this isn't alarge enough bonus to make them substantially more appealing.
Kabul = 23
Kumasi = 19
Muscat = 26
Mohenjo Daro = 25
Nan Madol = 15
Stockholm = 26
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 21
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 26

 

[Forster]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo =14
Auckland = 26
Buenos Aires = 27
Brussels = 17
Carthage =22
Geneva = 20
Granada = 11
Hattusa = 25 + 1 = 26 Missing resources you need.
Hong Kong = 8 - 3 = 5 Seldom do city projects after the initial run for religion, which is too soon for suz.
Kabul = 23
Kumasi = 19
Muscat = 26
Mohenjo Daro = 25
Nan Madol = 15
Stockholm = 26
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 21
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 26

 

[Kimiimaro]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo =14
Auckland = 26
Buenos Aires = 27+1=28 - Very useful bonus.
Brussels = 17
Carthage =22-3=19 - I never build encampments, so this city state is waste of envoys for me.
Geneva = 20
Granada = 11
Hattusa = 26
Hong Kong = 5
Kabul = 23
Kumasi = 19
Muscat = 26
Mohenjo Daro = 25
Nan Madol = 15
Stockholm = 26
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 21
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 26

 

[Guandao]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo =14
Auckland = 26
Buenos Aires = 28
Brussels = (17+1)=18 I could use the Wonder production boost
Carthage =19
Geneva = 20
Granada = (11-3)=8 I don't use CS improvements...
Hattusa = 26
Hong Kong = 5
Kabul = 23
Kumasi = 19
Muscat = 26
Mohenjo Daro = 25
Nan Madol = 15
Stockholm = 26
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 21
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 26

 

[Eliminator_Sr]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo =14
Auckland = 26
Buenos Aires = 28
Brussels = 18
Carthage =19
Geneva = 20
Granada = 8 - 3 = 5 (Bonus isn't worth the envoys)
Hattusa = 26
Hong Kong = 5
Kabul = 23
Kumasi = 19 + 1 = 20 (Has the best culture bonus by far)
Muscat = 26
Mohenjo Daro = 25
Nan Madol = 15
Stockholm = 26
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 21
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 26

 

[gettingfat]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo =14
Auckland = 26
Buenos Aires = 28
Brussels = 18
Carthage =19+1=20(To me there is nothing called "too many trade routes". One never builds encampments also doesn't mean this is not powerful.)
Geneva = 20
Granada = 5
Hattusa = 26
Hong Kong = 5
Kabul = 23
Kumasi = 20
Muscat = 26
Mohenjo Daro = 25
Nan Madol = 15-3=12(no need for too much culture)
Stockholm = 26
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 21
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 26

 

[Manifold]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo =14
Auckland = 26
Buenos Aires = 28
Brussels = 18
Carthage 21 (20+1) still the best
Geneva = 20
Granada = 5
Hattusa = 23 (26-3) I never need them
Hong Kong = 5
Kabul = 23
Kumasi = 20
Muscat = 26
Mohenjo Daro = 25
Nan Madol = 12
Stockholm = 26
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 21
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 26

 

[Amrunril]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo =14
Auckland = 26
Buenos Aires = 28
Brussels = 18
Carthage 21
Geneva = 20
Granada = 5
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong = 5
Kabul = 23
Kumasi = 20
Muscat = 26
Mohenjo Daro = 25
Nan Madol = 13 (12 + 1) A great source of culture for non CV players.
Stockholm = 26
Toronto = 17 (20 - 3) Doesn't do anything until the industrial era and only affects cities 7-9 hexes from the nearest industrial zone or entertainment complex. I feel like nostalgia has to be playing a role in how high this is.
Valletta = 21
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 26

 

[bbbt]

Amsterdam = 5 (8 - 3) If this bonus also applied to internal trade routes, it would be top tier, but don't use foreign trade routes that much early game.
Antananarivo =15 (14 + 1) This can be a significant cultural boost even if you aren't focusing on culture. It's all GP from your civ (not just ones earned while suzerain).
Auckland = 26
Buenos Aires = 28
Brussels = 18
Carthage 21
Geneva = 20
Granada = 5
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong = 5
Kabul = 23
Kumasi = 20
Muscat = 26
Mohenjo Daro = 25
Nan Madol = 13
Stockholm = 26
Toronto = 17
Valletta = 21
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 26

 

[WillowBrook]

Amsterdam = 5
Antananarivo =15
Auckland = 26
Buenos Aires = 28
Brussels = 18
Carthage 21
Geneva = 20
Granada = 5
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong = 2 (5-3) I don't use projects much
Kabul = 23
Kumasi = 20
Muscat = 26
Mohenjo Daro = 25
Nan Madol = 13
Stockholm = 27 (26+1) love me some extra gpps
Toronto = 17
Valletta = 21
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 26

 

[Guynemer]

Amsterdam = 5
Antananarivo =15
Auckland = 26
[color= green]Buenos Aires = 29 (+1) It can not be overstated just how useful this bonus is. Almost certainly makes every city "ecstatic", meaning bonuses to every yield. Hilariously overpowered.[/color]
Brussels = 18
Carthage 21
Geneva = 20
Granada = 5
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong = 2 (-3) Great to have for a science victory; utterly useless otherwise.
Kabul = 23
Kumasi = 20
Muscat = 26
Mohenjo Daro = 25
Nan Madol = 13
Stockholm = 26
Toronto = 17
Valletta = 21
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 26

 

[Kimiimaro]

Guynemer and Willowbrook posted on the same time. Hong Kong should be eliminated and Stockholm should have 27. Here are the correct scores:

Amsterdam = 5
Antananarivo =15
Auckland = 26
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 18
Carthage 21
Geneva = 20
Granada = 5
Hattusa = 23
Kabul = 23
Kumasi = 20
Muscat = 26
Mohenjo Daro = 25
Nan Madol = 13
Stockholm = 27
Toronto = 17
Valletta = 21
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 26

 

[Guandao]

Amsterdam = 5
Antananarivo =15
Auckland = 26
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 18
Carthage 21
Geneva = 20
Granada = (5-3)=2 Once again, I don't build CS improvements.
Hattusa = 23
Kabul = 23
Kumasi = (20+1)=21 I'll admit that I like to send trade routes to CSs..
Muscat = 26
Mohenjo Daro = 25
Nan Madol = 13
Stockholm = 27
Toronto = 17
Valletta = 21
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 26

 

[Forster]

Amsterdam = 5
Antananarivo =15-3=12 Don't always get a lot of GPs
Auckland = 26
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 18
Carthage 21
Geneva = 20
Granada = 2
Hattusa = 23
Kabul = 23
Kumasi =21
Muscat = 26
Mohenjo Daro = 25
Nan Madol = 13
Stockholm = 27
Toronto = 17+1=18 All those GP points
Valletta = 21
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 26

 

[Magma_Dragoon]

Amsterdam = 5
Antananarivo =15-3=12 Don't always get a lot of GPs
Auckland = 26
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 18
Carthage 21
Geneva = 20
Granada = 2
Hattusa = 23
Kabul = 23
Kumasi =21
Muscat = 26
Mohenjo Daro = 25
Nan Madol = 13
Stockholm = 27+1=28 All those GP points?
Toronto = 17+1=18
Valletta = 21
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 26

I believe you meant to vote up Stockholm

 

[LethalLeigh]

Amsterdam = 5
Antananarivo =12
Auckland = 26
Buenos Aires = 30 (29+1) Amenities and Production is always good.
Brussels = 18
Carthage 21
Geneva = 20
Granada = 0 (2-3) Eliminated not that good.
Hattusa = 23
Kabul = 23
Kumasi =21
Muscat = 26
Mohenjo Daro = 25
Nan Madol = 13
Stockholm = 27
Toronto = 18
Valletta = 21
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 26

 

[Forster]

I believe you meant to vote up Stockholm

Nope, I usually don't get that many great people, so the bonus isn't that important to me.

 

[Kimiimaro]

Amsterdam = 5
Antananarivo =12
Auckland = 26
Buenos Aires = 30
Brussels = 18
Carthage 21
Geneva = 20
Hattusa = 23
Kabul = 23
Kumasi =21
Muscat = 26
Mohenjo Daro = 25+1=26 - Fine bonus. Full housing from water is definitely good.
Nan Madol = 13-3=10 - And what if I don't have access to sea?
Stockholm = 27
Toronto = 18
Valletta = 21
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 26

 

[Eliminator_Sr]

Amsterdam = 5
Antananarivo =12
Auckland = 26
Buenos Aires = 30
Brussels = 18
Carthage 21 + 1 = 22 (Deserves to be higher)
Geneva = 20
Hattusa = 23
Kabul = 23
Kumasi =21
Muscat = 26
Mohenjo Daro = 26
Nan Madol = 10 - 3 = 7 (Not terrible but probably the weakest bonus left)
Stockholm = 27
Toronto = 18
Valletta = 21
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 26

 

[Guandao]

Amsterdam = (5+1)=6 I know this is going to go soon, but I like the extra gold.
Antananarivo =12
Auckland = 26
Buenos Aires = 30
Brussels = 18
Carthage = 22
Geneva = 20
Hattusa = 23
Kabul = 23
Kumasi =21
Muscat = 26
Mohenjo Daro = 26
Nan Madol = (7-3)=4 Not too useful if your empire is mainly landlocked.
Stockholm = 27
Toronto = 18
Valletta = 21
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 26