Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by Mercade, Jul 19, 2010.
The 21st of September worldwide.
Sure, muskets had a limited effective range, but those camel archers aren't exactly wielding longbows, are they?
Ranged attack in pre GP days is pretty much anything not involving hand to hand combat. Post GP there are really three "ranges": hand to hand, small arms, and artillery. But perhaps too complex to include all three ranges in gaming the post GP era.
It looks like after muskets, GP unit strength advances fast enough to render archers moot, as you say.
Looking briefly at some of the other discussions of this, particularly about why ranged weapons reach 2 tiles in all eras it is almost as if as technology advances, the world in fact "becomes smaller": each tile now represents a larger amount of surface (has a larger "diameter") and so two tiles is a greater distance in the GP era, a tile of movment represent a larger amount of ground covered in the same time (hmm, if each tile is more surface, then the world is actually getting larger?? )
dV - artillery reach three tiles, which was illustrated at the 2 hour live feed today. There was a lot of info provided so I advice everyone to try to grab a recording
EDIT: I was not aware that each unit has 10 HP (instead of 100 HP in Civ4), and that the number of great people required for golden age do not increase. Instead the duration decrease (down to a limit). Also, the player who builds a road will pay the upkeep (for example in neutral territory)
Updated - Monument, Settler, Horses, Panzer, Combat, Communism, Saves
Been through the first half of the gameplay footage, will get to part 2 later
Excuse me. Where can I find the footage?
You can find the two sessions at http://www.ustream.tv/2kgameslive
They suffered from the demo effect when they loaded up an old save, so they shut down the channel a short period half way through.
if you got to page 15 someone's posted the links, but i really think they should get put on the main news feed or something
they are (thats where I got to it from)
Does anyone know when and how the various extra functionality will be available by other means?
If not, when will that information be made available?
No, it has not been confirmed when or even if the extra content will be made avaialble as DLC to people who did not buy the Deluxe version or who did not buy a pre-order from one of the companies offering extra maps.
The only thing that has been confirmed is that there will be a DLC pack released "later in 2010" containing a scenario and two civilizations, but there is no knowledge about the specific date or the specific contents.
My question is even more broad than that. What about to people who did buy the Deluxe version or who did buy a pre-order from one of the companies offering extra maps. When or even if will the extra content be available?? (For example, say I buy one of the maps, when will I be able to get the other one?)
At minimum, can we at least know the general paradigm? What's the plan for DLC?
This question is preventing me from pre-ordering.
Something I'd like but didn't see in the list is a terrain improvement - canal to connect bodies of water like lakes, rivers, and open water. Navigable by certain ship units. Also a wonder like the Erie Canal, Kiel Canal, Panama Canal, Suez Canal, etc., with an increase in commerce benefit.
- Also a dam and reservoir - allows increased production, population through power availability; also source for irrigation in a desert.
- How about inland ports, where rivers are navigable to a point?
- What would happen if we tried to reclaim desert through irrigation followed by forrestation?
Actually at the bottom of the official site's preorder page it says this:
Excellent, nice spot. Post #6 in this thread needs to be updated with this information.
it would be good to know when and how; I'm also unsure how the DLC will work, as I would think it would simply function through Steam, though apparently D2D has a special "DLC Pack" that is unique to them, though this is seemingly contradicted in post #6 because later down below it says it will "be available to all". So is it unique to D2D or is it available to all (in which case why list it under D2D and not others?) So how does that work?
What about the Deluxe content? (Babylon civ) When/how will that be available (if at all)? e.g., if I buy the Special Edition, can I ever get the Babylons?
D2D just promises the "first" DLC pack to be free - not that its exclusive to them.
Why did they have to release it on a Tuesday!?!?!? I have no vacation days left and really really really really really want to play the second it comes out... Oh well I guess the only rational option I have left is to call in a phony bomb threat...
Or pull a sickie.
Translating from Kiwi lingo...
TRANSLATION: Take a day off by pretending to be sick, usually to attend an event and / or play a new video game
Indeed good find by msj0. This wasn't cross posted on CivFanatics before. I'll update my post #6.
As to your questions:
sometime later in 2010, there'll be a DLC pack with a scenario and two civs. This pack will become available for everybody (for an unknown price and at an unknown date in 2010). D2D is offering you a free coupon for this pack (included in their price) to be redeemed when the DLC pack becomes available.
the when of DLC isn't known (except for the D2D offer)
the how of DLC: you will buy it on Steam and then automagically download it through your steam client. Other suppliers may offer DLC, which means they'll sell you the code that you then enter into your steam client for download. When the 1st DLC pack becomes available, D2D will e-mail you the code that you then enter into steam to download / install.
as stated before, it's unknown if Babylon will ever be released as DLC.
Thanks for the answers! Would be good to merge some into post #6.
Am I a cynic for thinking it may be a long time?
I guess there's no option, then, but to buy the Deluxe version and not even consider the Special Edition, and that means I can't get the soundtracks.
Any news the soundtracks will be released as DLC or, better, iTunes? Or... will the full tracks be buried in the game folders, so I can just import them into iTunes and burn my own CD? :heh:
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