[NFP] Civilization VI: Possible New Civilizations Thread

[almughavar]

The actual joke is based on a (rumored) exchange between Laotian and Vietnamese representatives at an ASEAN summit regarding who should host the following year ASEAN summit which would place an emphasis on maritime security within the region:
"Laos: I want to host that one.
Vietnam: Dude, you're the only one in SEA without maritime access.
Laos: So? You hosted the summit on Culture last year."

In that case it’s very likely to be an imitation of a certain “Radio Yerevan joke”:

Radio Yerevan was asked: "Why did they establish a Ministry of the Navy in landlocked Armenia. Do you have a sea?"

Radio Yerevan answered: "To spite Azerbaijan. They had established a Ministry of Culture."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Yerevan_jokes

 

[Lord Lakely]

I don't know if they would do two Assyrian cities.
Babylon could easily become Ebla.

Palmyra, Elba, Tadmor, Qadesh, Carchemish, Washukanni, Troy, Arbela - all of these could be city states. There's plenty of choice and honestly, a Babylonian list doesn't even need to include Akkad.

 

[Republic of San Montuoso]

Palmyra, Elba, Tadmor, Qadesh, Carchemish, Washukanni, Troy, Arbela - all of these could be city states. There's plenty of choice and honestly, a Babylonian list doesn't even need to include Akkad.

As if the entire region was just populated by city-States and every empire we had here (except maybe the Assyrian one) was just a city-State hegemonizing over the other for a short time, but the rest still being lots and lots of city-States more or less independent from each other... It would be like "I wonder which Italian/Greek city-State they could add for replacing X or Y city-State". Look, there was nothing but city-States in this region at this time.

 

[Wielki Hegemon]

Radio Yerevan jokes were very popular in Poland
I have found once this saying in Tiziano Terzani's book "A Fortune-Teller Told Me" (btw. great book about SE Asia).
"The Vietnamese plant the rice, the Cambodians watch it grown and the Lao listen to it grow".
Since then I love Lao

 

[Andrew Johnson [FXS]]

Radio
"The Vietnamese plant the rice, the Cambodians watch it grown and the Lao listen to it grow".

I've heard that one too! It's usually attributed to "a French colonial official," though I wasn't able to find a source and it only appears recently in guide books and the like! Fantastic to hear it traced down to Terzani (whose work I do not know and which I'll check out!).

The French had a minimal footprint in Laos and Cambodia, usually appointing Vietnamese administrators to work there (and also being there for a time that was relatively brief, in colonial terms) and reflecting a lack of interest once the French figured out that the Mekong led "nowhere" (it leads fantastic places, but not to the Chinese heartland, which is where the French wanted to go). While there's a lot of French influence in Vietnam (Catholicism, coffee, the script), there's not nearly as much in the rest of Indochina. Present-day ethnic tensions between ethnic Vietnamese and Khmer in Cambodia are also rooted in this history.

 

[AaronTBD]

The leaks were true

 

[Birch617]

Maybe Trung Nhi would reuse the code from the Heroes game mode for the leader ability of Trung Trac, like an unique hero unit for the vietnamese

 

[Republic of San Montuoso]

Maybe Trung Nhi would reuse the code from the Heroes game mode for the leader ability of Trung Trac, like an unique hero unit for the vietnamese

Highly improbable. Why would they tie an ability of a civ to a mechanic in another, not free update? Enough people are already complaining that some of NFP DLCs needs GS or R&F to play (like you need DLC to play another DLC), so needing or intertying a DLC with another DLC would probably never occur.

 

[AaronTBD]

I think that, while it's not impossible, the replacement of Babylon will probably not be in the Middle East.

Well this aged well

 

[Birch617]

Highly improbable. Why would they tie an ability of a civ to a mechanic in another, not free update? Enough people are already complaining that some of NFP DLCs needs GS or R&F to play (like you need DLC to play another DLC), so needing or intertying a DLC with another DLC would probably never occur.

Didn't Ethiopia use some code /mechanics from one of the secret societies; same with one of the persona packs

 

[Foxforch]

I knew Babylon would make it to Civ6. It was the only one of the original civs that was missing. Hype is real!

 

[batusay]

Two new improvements are the mahavihara and the trading dome. I take it that they would be babylon's but a quick google search didn't show any connection between them. What gives?

 

[Zaarin]

Two new improvements are the mahavihara and the trading dome. I take it that they would be babylon's but a quick google search didn't show any connection between them. What gives?

They're city-state UIs.

 

[Jkchart]

With 4 of 5 of the "missing regulars" back in with NFP, I'm going to just throw out there that this means Portugal could be the last pack

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

With 4 of 5 of the "missing regulars" back in with NFP, I'm going to just throw out there that this means Portugal could be the last pack

That's sadly my guess for the time being.

 

[Jkchart]

That's sadly my guess for the time being.

It seems kind of disappointing, but the cool thing about it would be if they DO do a second NFP and the last one from this is Portugal, that means there will be wildly new faces in the second. If not, then it is probably the cap on DLC and we can close the book for a bit.

 

[Republic of San Montuoso]

Didn't Ethiopia use some code /mechanics from one of the secret societies; same with one of the persona packs

Except that Ethiopia came out with the DLC with Secret Societies, and the abilities is generic enough to be able to have been put in the base game even. Science and Culture based on your faith output? Not really an incredible mechanic.

But using a hero mechanic, which is a brand new mechanic, is highly improbable

 

[Jeppetto]

When I want to play Godmode I modded China in many ways, among which they unlock Tech and Civic by Eureka or Inspiration (rather than just getting a boost) and it looks like now I can get that with Babylon without modding For real tho, it looks like either they unlock Techs through Eurekas or they can trigger them twice... Or they just had Archery pre-researched to 60% and I'm getting over-excited.

Except that Ethiopia came out with the DLC with Secret Societies, and the abilities is generic enough to be able to have been put in the base game even. Science and Culture based on your faith output? Not really an incredible mechanic.

But using a hero mechanic, which is a brand new mechanic, is highly improbable

To be honest, they said she could reuse the mechanic. The Heroes are just as reusable If you imagine them minimalistically. All they are is unique unit (no more complex than Commandante General) with unique action (different snippet of code and different icon attached to what we have already in game multiple times). The action itself would be most complex thing and even there look at everything Commandante Generals do and there was no problem. Ironically, existence of Commandante Generals is reason why it's rational but also exactly why I don't think they'll go that way. Would seem unnecesary since we already have Heroes in Gran Columbia.

EDIT: BTW Andrew you have mesmerizing eyes.

 

[DogeEnricoDandolo]

I've heard that one too! It's usually attributed to "a French colonial official," though I wasn't able to find a source and it only appears recently in guide books and the like! Fantastic to hear it traced down to Terzani (whose work I do not know and which I'll check out!).

The French had a minimal footprint in Laos and Cambodia, usually appointing Vietnamese administrators to work there (and also being there for a time that was relatively brief, in colonial terms) and reflecting a lack of interest once the French figured out that the Mekong led "nowhere" (it leads fantastic places, but not to the Chinese heartland, which is where the French wanted to go). While there's a lot of French influence in Vietnam (Catholicism, coffee, the script), there's not nearly as much in the rest of Indochina. Present-day ethnic tensions between ethnic Vietnamese and Khmer in Cambodia are also rooted in this history.

By the way, are you the guy that appears in the November update video with Carl? I expected you to be a middle aged guy looking like Andrew Johnson the president to be honest.

 

[Jeppetto]

By the way, are you the guy that appears in the November update video with Carl? I expected you to be a middle aged guy looking like Andrew Johnson the president to be honest.

No it's different Andrew Johnson, I've heard they have six of them, releasing one at a time for each Game Mode with writing. The Legends says this is already the third one. Only Mayas know what happens once we reach the sixth.