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[Alexander's Hetaroi]

+ Oxford Wonder. But the wonders are there for all three of them. And just because Fritz and Kati are in, doesn‘t mean their civs are as well.

Oxford wasn't shown to be in the Exploration Age tech tree, right?

 

[j51]

To be fair, we've got its neighbor and its colony already. If they're going for variety, they might not want two same-Age Anglophone civs, so they keep America (fills out the North American roster, large global presence, very large playerbase) and have a different rep for west europe.

I can understand the reasoning, but it’s still completely goofy. Germany would be the one to cut of the three imo. It also has no good predecessors in exploration right now

 

[Krikkit1]

I can understand the reasoning, but it’s still completely goofy. Germany would be the one to cut of the three imo. It also has no good predecessors in exploration right now

Actually they should probably cut 2 of the 3…keep 2 civs in Europe for modern. just France and Russia is enough for base game….then the issue is what other civ fills the other spot

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Actually they should probably cut 2 of the 3…keep 2 civs in Europe for modern. just France and Russia is enough for base game….then the issue is what other civ fills the other spot

The Ottomans might make the most sense if they just keep it to two civs from Europe. The only problem is we haven't seen any hints that they would be in. We don't actually have a modern Middle Eastern civ, though.

 

[TheGhostEnthusiast]

The Ottomans might make the most sense if they just keep it to two civs from Europe. The only problem is we haven't seen any hints that they would be in. We don't actually have a modern Middle Eastern civ, though.

I used to be a big proponent of Ottomans for this reason, but with the evidence towards Russia I think Middle East/West Asia will be represented by Mughal (which is frankly an excellent pick for the purpose of collapsing regions together for Modern, even if it's for the purpose of More Europe, which isn't really a personal concern) and Russia.

 

[Rac]

Ok, so that oopsie on the Abbasid theme video today revealed Hawaii icon, quite in a handy moment since I needed to fix some errors I did in the spreadsheet.
I did forgot to change colors on some corfirmed stuff and to put Hale o Keawe and Shwedagon Zedi Daw wonder (btw that last one may imply Burma as possible DLC civ).
About Britain, I said before they where mentioned in interviews together with America as an example of civ swapping right when the mechanic was revealed to the public; and before I was thinking the Oxford University where an Age 2 wonder that could be indicading England there, but since the architecture used is from modern times I though this place it in Age 3 and would be associated to Britain then (instead of using Big Ben/Westminster Palace... Odd decision IMO). To me I see it as confirmed but yeah I understand the skepticism with the possible more than 2 European civs with just 2 slots left in Modern...

@Rac would it be possible to add a small note on each of the entries to signify that we've had a First Look/Game Guide available for them? We know Amina and Songhai are in but we are yet to actually see their First Look/Guides.

The second post in the thread has the links for the thread discussions here in Civfanatics, but I will think in a way to show that too

 

[Giskler]

Thera can be put as confirmed now as well.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I used to be a big proponent of Ottomans for this reason, but with the evidence towards Russia I think Middle East/West Asia will be represented by Mughal (which is frankly an excellent pick for the purpose of collapsing regions together for Modern, even if it's for the purpose of More Europe, which isn't really a personal concern) and Russia.

Well Mughals aren't located in the Middle East, but South Asia. But if you are talking about having more Persian/Turkish influences, I guess you are right.

 

[chaosprophet]

Also (and did we know this already), I learned that the Exploration Age has a start of 400 CE. Does anyone recall when Antiquity was ending?

The end varies. In regular speed each age goes for at most 200 turns. But the more the civs in the game reach legacies it can go down to lowest of 150, it seems. but may go even lower if future civics/tech are researched, but not 100% sure.

But basically, because of the turn total varying, we can't known for sure the date. The date for turn 200 will probably be very close to 400, but then it almost never will be the case it goes to turn 200. So in general it would have a considerable jump in time from the end to the first turn of the next age. But then, the date is just flavor, turns is what matter for gameplay.

 

[queenpea]

The end varies. In regular speed each age goes for at most 200 turns. But the more the civs in the game reach legacies it can go down to lowest of 150, it seems. but may go even lower if future civics/tech are researched, but not 100% sure.

But basically, because of the turn total varying, we can't known for sure the date. The date for turn 200 will probably be very close to 400, but then it almost never will be the case it goes to turn 200. So in general it would have a considerable jump in time from the end to the first turn of the next age. But then, the date is just flavor, turns is what matter for gameplay.

Dates interest me in terms of immersion, and, I think, help shed light on how the devs imagine each Age.

 

[Potworny]

The end varies. In regular speed each age goes for at most 200 turns. But the more the civs in the game reach legacies it can go down to lowest of 150, it seems. but may go even lower if future civics/tech are researched, but not 100% sure.

But basically, because of the turn total varying, we can't known for sure the date. The date for turn 200 will probably be very close to 400, but then it almost never will be the case it goes to turn 200. So in general it would have a considerable jump in time from the end to the first turn of the next age. But then, the date is just flavor, turns is what matter for gameplay.

Speaking of my favourite flavor, I suppose it would maybe be more fortunate to link in game date to age progress, not turns? But it's less than a priority, even for me :v

 

[Nic@Melbourne]

I used to be a big proponent of Ottomans for this reason, but with the evidence towards Russia I think Middle East/West Asia will be represented by Mughal (which is frankly an excellent pick for the purpose of collapsing regions together for Modern, even if it's for the purpose of More Europe, which isn't really a personal concern) and Russia.

Chola goes to Mughal. Even if Abbasid or Mongols can too, they all still need their own 1st preference in case all Civs are in the game.
Mongols is either going to Russia or Meiji
Abbasid surely has to go to Ottomans, otherwise it’s Germany (which is the weirdest jump in the game)

And if Spain is to Mexico as 1st preference where does Maya go

 

[Zaarin]

And if Spain is to Mexico as 1st preference where does Maya go

To Inca or Shawnee, presumably (probably in that order); off chance for Hawai'i...I guess. Inca's first choice is probably Mexico and second choice America; Shawnee's first choice is probably America with second choice Mexico.

 

[Black Gate]

How many leaders is everyone thinking we'll get? I know they said the game would launch with "the most leaders ever" but a lot of people were speculating that they'd forgotten about Civ4 launching with 26 or that it would include personas. I was originally thinking that since the DLC packs are a 2:1 ratio of civs:leaders that the game would be similar and that discarding personas it would have roughly 15, but with the revealed leaders and others hinted they've already blown well past that. 16 known, plus a near-confirmed Frederick and Catherine the Greats, and the possibility of many others, makes me think they might get a lot closer to that 26 number after all.

 

[Xandinho]

The Ottomans might make the most sense if they just keep it to two civs from Europe. The only problem is we haven't seen any hints that they would be in. We don't actually have a modern Middle Eastern civ, though.

True, but let’s remember that we only know about Siam from a screenshot; I don’t recall seeing any sign of it in videos so far. It could be like the Ottomans - it might be there, even though we haven’t seen any hint of it yet.

 

[Ryansinbela]

What is Ming’s icon

 

[Zaarin]

What is Ming’s icon

A fenghuang (Chinese phoenix).

 

[TheGhostEnthusiast]

Chola goes to Mughal. Even if Abbasid or Mongols can too, they all still need their own 1st preference in case all Civs are in the game.
Mongols is either going to Russia or Meiji
Abbasid surely has to go to Ottomans, otherwise it’s Germany (which is the weirdest jump in the game)

And if Spain is to Mexico as 1st preference where does Maya go

Keep in mind that Abbasid to Buganda has already been confirmed. I’d like Ottoman, but I’m not optimistic.

 

[j51]

Keep in mind that Abbasid to Buganda has already been confirmed. I’d like Ottoman, but I’m not optimistic.

Ottoman will probably/hopefully be in the crossroads of the world pack at latest

 

[Zaarin]

Ottoman will probably/hopefully be in the crossroads of the world pack at latest

Depends on if we see a wonder for it in the base game (Topkapi Palace? Blue Mosque? Süleymaniye Mosque? Great Mosque of Adana?). If not, then it would be Right to Rule at the earliest.