albie_123
Modding In Secret
Just gave it a whirl, running VEM and nothing else. On turn 98, all good so far. Haven't tried saving / loading yet.
I am very, very excited about this.
I am very, very excited about this.
CiVUP - CiV Unofficial Patch
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Thalassicus
Bytes and Nibblers
By "compatibility" I mean setting up the code to deal with the situation where there can be multiple active players. I know I'd have to change things which occur once per "active player" turn, to ensure it's not, say... giving all players the 15:c5free: gold for each human player's turn. I'm aware of that kind of problem, but I don't know what else would need changes. 
Txurce
Deity
By "compatibility" I mean setting up the code to deal with the situation where there can be multiple active players. I know I'd have to change things which occur once per "active player" turn, to ensure it's not, say... giving all players the 15:c5free: gold for each human player's turn. I'm aware of that kind of problem, but I don't know what else would need changes.
Thal, I'm starting a new game tonight with an actual other player. In the example you gave, should I look for stuff like CS boosts or gpt from AI deals?
Thalassicus
Bytes and Nibblers
You'll just need to keep your eyes open. I'm uncertain how Firaxis changes players for hotseat, have not done any testing, and past attempts to find a guide on the subject came up without results. Everything might work fine, or there might be tons of bugs. It's completely unknown territory. 
Txurce
Deity
Okay. I'll try to be more vigilant than usual. albie's playing as well, so any existing anomalies should be noticed by one of us.
Thalassicus
Bytes and Nibblers
One example of a possible problem is many aspects of the AI handicap settings in VEM used to rely on the active player's current era (whoever is currently looking at the game). Last week I changed this to instead get an average of all human player eras. There might be other parts of the mod with similar problems that need fixing.
Txurce
Deity
Playing Hotseat Civ #1 (Danes) get 2 culture for the capital. Civ #2 (Siam) gets 7 culture. Is this because VEM thinks Civ #2 is an AI civ?
Also, Siam just got a free settler from a ruin. I had never seen this before. Is it something you added recently? It seems like a huge bonus on t10.
Also, Siam just got a free settler from a ruin. I had never seen this before. Is it something you added recently? It seems like a huge bonus on t10.
Is it possible that Siam had Tradition already? That'd be +2 palace and +5 tradition = 7.
It sounds like the game thinks it's settler difficulty. Settlers only spawn on settler difficulty but subjectively speaking appear *often* at the level.
Txurce
Deity
No, this was Siam's first policy.
Settler difficulty may also give Siam that +5 to start.
Thalassicus
Bytes and Nibblers
Are you sure you set Siam to the same difficulty level? That type of ancient ruin reward appears only on Settler difficulty.
Edit: Yay for leaving a thread open half an hour, then replying without refreshing the page to see if new posts happened.
Edit: Yay for leaving a thread open half an hour, then replying without refreshing the page to see if new posts happened.
albie_123
Modding In Secret
I'm not getting either of those issues. Maybe you put Siam on Settler difficulty by accident?
Anyway, it's working great. The only issue I've run into is that AI units have their 'hidden' promotions shown above the unit icon ("Free Promotions", "+1 Visibility").
Thal, have you considered putting this into the mod proper? (With Gedemon's permission, of course.) While 90% of players don't play hotseat, the 10% who do will absolutely love you for it.
Anyway, it's working great. The only issue I've run into is that AI units have their 'hidden' promotions shown above the unit icon ("Free Promotions", "+1 Visibility").
Thal, have you considered putting this into the mod proper? (With Gedemon's permission, of course.) While 90% of players don't play hotseat, the 10% who do will absolutely love you for it.
Thalassicus
Bytes and Nibblers
You can fix that by right-clicking the "unit promotions" button on the minimap's foldout options panel. It's an odd occasional bug with the ModUserData folder's storage mechanism... haven't ever investigated to figure out exactly why and when it happens.
It's been on my todo list for a year, just never got around to it because I expected hotseat compatibility to be something really hard to accomplish. It looks like it might be much easier than I anticipated.
albie_123
Modding In Secret
It works great, and I've played this game (with saving + loading) for 200 turns, no issues.
Txurce
Deity
I'll blow my brains out if I'm responsible for my opponent playing on Settler difficulty. To be clear, albie, does it default to Settler at the start, and I have to set it for Emperor, just as I had to hit "human"? I assumed not, because I chose "Emperor" as the game difficulty.
Txurce
Deity
I just set up a new hotseat game to check out the above. There is no option for human Civ 2 to be on a different setting from human Civ 1.
But I started a few other games, and never again got that result. So I don't know what happened, and am just glad it looks like an anomaly.
On a relatively insignificant front, I have also noticed that Civ 2 doesn't get the "elsewhere..." notifications at the top at the start of each turn.
But I started a few other games, and never again got that result. So I don't know what happened, and am just glad it looks like an anomaly.
On a relatively insignificant front, I have also noticed that Civ 2 doesn't get the "elsewhere..." notifications at the top at the start of each turn.
albie_123
Modding In Secret
Huh, I didn't even notice that, but it's true.
And good to hear the issue didn't come up again. I have no idea how it could have happened... oh well.
And good to hear the issue didn't come up again. I have no idea how it could have happened... oh well.
Txurce
Deity
Unfortunately there are anomalies. I have test-started several games. In one, all of the civs were human - and believe me, I didn't erroneously check off 7 tags.
More problematically, I played another game for ten turns or so, and Civ #2 again drew the Settler ruin. This strongly indicates that VEM thinks any civ other than Civ1 is an AI.
More problematically, I played another game for ten turns or so, and Civ #2 again drew the Settler ruin. This strongly indicates that VEM thinks any civ other than Civ1 is an AI.
Hey.
Where is the movement animation speed on units edited
Thx
see:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=458168
There is an "Options.sql" file in the main folder (I believe). Simply open that and change the values (1 or 0) of the parts you'd like. I'd definitely do this pre-game (and probably with a cleared cache folder as well). hope that helps.
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