Clown Car V: 2020 version!

[r16]

yeah , because the South African Anglos' systems were not fit enough to win in Libya so it's direct from America , so that UAE might maybe perhaps probably win . (Also cheap Chinese exports with not so cheap Russian exports)

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

That article has a piece: "What was the Texas legal challenge about?".

And that's crystal isn't it? Maintain the illusion that the election can still be fought, so Trump can keep scamming money from his supporters. As long as there are lawyers who are willing to disgrace themselves in favour of Trump, Trump can keep harvesting dollars from them. And will continue to do so for however long he can.

 

[Arakhor]

What was it that someone posted recently? An image of someone screaming on social media that Biden shouldn't win by getting the most Electoral College votes? Poe's Law aside, how do they expect to win if they're not counting literally the only way to win?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

What was it that someone posted recently? An image of someone screaming on social media that Biden shouldn't win by getting the most Electoral College votes? Poe's Law aside, how do they expect to win if they're not counting literally the only way to win?

Oh that's easy. You go by perceived popularity.

And you think I'm joking but I'm not. The fellers at Breitbart (comment section) main argument seems to be either:
Obama was more popular than Biden, but got less votes, this is impossible, so there obviously was fraud, so Trump won.

or

Trump had way more people at his rallies than Biden, who only had a few paid for actors in brand new cars, so it's impossible Biden got more votes.

They're not joking. They really are that stupid.

 

[Kaitzilla]

Trump won 2497 counties representing 30% of national GDP.

Biden won 477 counties representing 70% of national GDP.

 

[Takhisis]

We've got three Supreme Court justices we can lend you to get started.

Loans are fungible, right?

 

[Sommerswerd]

Your smiley does not have a hat!

Yes it does... you just need to clear your cache. <-- this one also has a hat.

 

[Cutlass]

Trump won 2497 counties representing 30% of national GDP.

Biden won 477 counties representing 70% of national GDP.

Good thing land doesn't vote.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Like in a Confederation?

Exactly

Good thing land doesn't vote.

It used to ... Make America like that Again?

 

[mitsho]

Good thing land doesn't vote.

That statistic isn‘t about that. I actually wanted to answer that „one person, one vote“ still counts, but then I remembered that you have the Electoral College. Anyways, it‘s interesting that such simple measures (like that whole foods vs cracker barrel comparison) are as good a predictor as many more sophisticated models . But that doesn‘t mean rural votes should be looked down upon. That‘s why that sentence quoted doesn‘t really sit well with me.

 

[Cutlass]

That statistic isn‘t about that. I actually wanted to answer that „one person, one vote“ still counts, but then I remembered that you have the Electoral College. Anyways, it‘s interesting that such simple measures (like that whole foods vs cracker barrel comparison) are as good a predictor as many more sophisticated models . But that doesn‘t mean rural votes should be looked down upon. That‘s why that sentence quoted doesn‘t really sit well with me.

It's never been about 'rural votes not counting'. That's just political rhetoric. The Electoral College and the Senate make rural votes count far higher than their proportion of the population. These are the most over-represented people in the US. And yet they whine because they don't win more, and don't have an even greater over representation.

Where the reality is that if voting were really fair and proportional, the Republican party wouldn't be able to be the radical extremist party that they are. So the people who are whining the most about not getting enough representation are already the people with the highest excess representation. And the rest of us are sick of hearing it.

 

[Kyriakos]

Any research into how many people actually want some type of secession?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Trump shows remarkable understanding of the case brought before the Supreme Court.

"The Supreme Court, all they did is say we don't have standing," Trump said. "So they're saying essentially the president of the United States and Texas and these other states, great states, they don't have standing."

https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...trump-baseless-election-fraud-lawsuits-444724

The defeats are piling up so fast—the Supreme Court summarily rejected two lawsuits inside of four days—and the judges’ rebukes have been so withering that many people outside the legal profession wonder why trained lawyers are being allowed to persist in this doomed effort to overturn the results of an election that has been described by the president’s own elections officials as the “most secure in American history.” Isn’t there some kind of rule against this?

There is. In federal court (where 11 of the cases have been brought) it’s called Rule 11. And courts have used it many times to discourage the very kinds of legally insufficient and bad faith claims that have been advanced by Rudy Giuliani and his so-called elite strike force of attorneys.


First, it helps to understand how unusual it is that the president’s cases are getting tossed so quickly. Generally, plaintiffs get the benefit of the doubt when they’re filing lawsuits. If they have some combination of factual support for their complaint and an existing law to apply, courts are inclined to let the cases proceed. But the Trump campaign and its Republican allies are falling far short of even these low thresholds on evidentiary and legal grounds. And this is why judges have been so quick to shut them down or refuse to even hear them, as happened this week twice at the Supreme Court.

It’s not uncommon for people who proceed without counsel to bring spurious complaints about fanciful government conspiracies or file suits that misunderstand the law. Judges don’t usually penalize lay people for their mistakes. But when courts suspect that trained lawyers know of their cases’ shortcomings and deficiencies and filed them anyway, they can tell litigants “enough is enough.”

And the primary way federal judges do it is with Rule 11. Rule 11 is a congressionally sanctioned tool that enables judges to keep attorneys honest in their courtrooms. Its goal is to deter parties from filing and pursuing frivolous lawsuits, and ensuring fairness to those on the other side who might have been unfairly hauled into court. Baseless claims waste courts’ finite time and resources, clogging the judicial system and hindering meritorious claims from proceeding.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Rule 11:

https://definitions.uslegal.com/r/rule-11/

 

[Estebonrober]

Any research into how many people actually want some type of secession?

It does not even add up though, if Texas secedes it still has Austin and Houston in the damn state. What to do what to do?

most recent numbers show secession has 40% support.

 

[Birdjaguar]

It does not even add up though, if Texas secedes it still has Austin and Houston in the damn state. What to do what to do?

most recent numbers show secession has 40% support.

Perhaps we need Republican "Homelands" where they can create theocratic enclaves in rural areas.

 

[Estebonrober]

Perhaps we need Republican "Homelands" where they can create theocratic enclaves in rural areas.

yes this is the disconnect I jsut can't wrap my head around. . .but so much of it is driven by a culture war that has no bearing on reality. The same people who want to separate from the social justice war part of the nation do not want their neighbor's kid persecuted for being gay. The saem people who fear the state taking away their 30 odd guns can never explain to me how on the good earth this government would ever be able to "take their guns". None of them know a black person beyond the hype of crime reports on the local news. . . Its jsut asinine.

 

[Takhisis]

Perhaps we need Republican "Homelands" where they can create theocratic enclaves in rural areas.

Would this be like Indian Reservations?

 

[Birdjaguar]

Would this be like Indian Reservations?

Better for sure. They wouldn't need socialistic healthcare and special tax breaks for the poor. They would get better land since we already gave the Indians the worst of what we had. I'd let them choose hard or soft borders.

 

[Farm Boy]

It used to ... Make America like that Again?

Money never stopped voting, even if you do happen to find yourself on the buttered side of the pancake now and then.