Clown Car V: 2020 version!

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Top Trump ally Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.), when asked if Biden was President elect:

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So rather than call Biden President-elect and risk angering Trump and/or upset the fund-raising scam, he'd rather just pretend that there is no such thing as a President-elect.

All to steal money from their faithful supporters...

STOP THE STEAL
 
The US will do good with Biden. He is certainly on par with russian and chinese leaders. Much like his predecessor was.
China not having to deal with covid for more than half a year now also means it is going to be #1 sooner rather than later.
 
Kyriakos said:
China not having to deal with covid for more than half a year now
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Everyone's dealing with Covid and its consequences. Even China, which would like to pretend otherwise.
 
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am completely disgusted by the two minute long missile alert given at Rammstein base in Germany , before the fun that could have ensued with the electoral college ! Disgusting !
 
Estebonrober said:
Getting America to live up to its ideals requires straight white males to own up to the reality of the current situation in which systemic suppression is the current tactic of one of the major parties running the nation. . . I'm sorry, the minority rule the GOP is pulling off right now is not sustainable and there will be a reckoning politically for it
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There's a right way and a wrong way to go about it. Right now, what I see is a wrong way to approach it by making straight white males go through Chinese Cultural Revolution style struggle sessions to make them feel guilty about characteristics and circumstances they don't have any control over by preaching at them. When you force people to go through white guilt, you're going to breed resentment, and you're only going to create division and more racism. Even two Harvard sociologists put forward that Diversity Training doesn't work.

I'll leave with a comment left by the creator of Cyberpunk 2077, Mike Pondsmith (Yes, he's black): "I’ve also said that if you want somebody to see your point of view, you really have to stop preaching. When you preach at people, and they don’t find it out themselves what happens is invariably they shut down because you’re now threatening what they see. They say 'you’re wrong and my way is right'. You may not be right or only partially right and that’s when you need to be able to talk to other people and find out what’s right for a lot of people. If you preach you don’t get there. You’re just basically giving your side of the statement, and it never seems to work that way.".

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Also, I refer you to . . .
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Good, given the riots and arson Antifa has committed for the past months. They had it coming to them.
 
GenMarshall said:
making straight white males go through Chinese Cultural Revolution style struggle sessions to make them feel guilty about characteristics and circumstances they don't have any control over by preaching at them
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When has this actually happened?
 
GenMarshall said:
There's a right way and a wrong way to go about it. Right now, what I see is a wrong way to approach it by making straight white males go through Chinese Cultural Revolution style struggle sessions to make them feel guilty about characteristics and circumstances they don't have any control over by preaching at them. When you force people to go through white guilt, you're going to breed resentment, and you're only going to create division and more racism. Even two Harvard sociologists put forward that Diversity Training doesn't work.

I'll leave with a comment left by the creator of Cyberpunk 2077, Mike Pondsmith (Yes, he's black): "I’ve also said that if you want somebody to see your point of view, you really have to stop preaching. When you preach at people, and they don’t find it out themselves what happens is invariably they shut down because you’re now threatening what they see. They say 'you’re wrong and my way is right'. You may not be right or only partially right and that’s when you need to be able to talk to other people and find out what’s right for a lot of people. If you preach you don’t get there. You’re just basically giving your side of the statement, and it never seems to work that way.".


Good, given the riots and arson Antifa has committed for the past months. They had it coming to them.
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I'm not preaching at you. I don't preach. The POV of half the nation is so twisted it thinks half the nation was burnt down by antifa this year. I'm not seeing anywhere near that much damage and I can barely find antifa anywhere.

Literally the right has like 2 examples of antifa violence in the past year and they are in "omg is a Chinese Cultural Revolution". There is no talking to such willful insanity.
 
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Good, given the riots and arson Antifa has committed for the past months. They had it coming to them.
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Don't preach at the straight white males but you can say that protesters deserved to get attacked by the Proud Boys????

:hmm::confused:
 
GenMarshall said:
Good, given the riots and arson Antifa has committed for the past months. They had it coming to them.
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Considering the last time you attempted to provide straight-up far-wing news sources on alleged activities, combined with your bizarre comments now here, I can only presume you're relapsing into your apparently disavowed alt-right circles. I'm just highlighting it to you in case you need a reminder, feel free to ignore this.
 
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There's a right way and a wrong way to go about it.
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I've commented on this kind of argument previously at length and what I'll repeat is that when folks don't like the "what" ie the cause, goal or underlying message, etc., they aren't going to like the "how", regardless of what form it takes. A great example is that the same people who condemn the "violence" and "riots" of BLM protesters and claim that they "sympathize with the cause but they are going about it the wrong way" will then condemn the NFL kneeling protests saying they "sympathize with the cause but they are going about it the wrong way" and the NBA painting Black Lives Matter on the court saying they "sympathize with the cause but they are going about it the wrong way"...

No matter what we do, we are always "going about it the wrong way", because "going about it the wrong way" is just a euphemism, sometimes conscious, but more often subconscious, for disagreeing with the cause. I generally give folks the benefit of the doubt and assume its the latter.
 
Eh.
 
There's not much left to take.

Just so tired.
 
Media on November 3rd: There's nothing to this Hunter Biden story, its all a debunked conspiracy and Russian disinformation - even 50 intelligence experts said so

Media on November 4th: The FBI announced it is investigating Hunter and has been for a couple years

Where are these 50 intelligence experts now? Seeking jobs with Joe Biden for services rendered
 
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