Clown Car V: 2020 version!

[Birdjaguar]

Is this supposed to mean something?

Yes, your assessment of the situation is bonkers as well as wrong.

After news emerged of a heated Oval Office meeting Friday pitting Powell and Flynn against White House officials, including chief of staff Mark Meadows and White House counsel Pat Cipollone, Powell was seen exiting the executive mansion again on Sunday.
She was also scheduled to be at the White House on Monday, people familiar with the matter said, though it wasn't clear with whom she was planning to meet. She has been promoting an executive order allowing the federal government to seize voting machines in order to inspect them for fraud, a proposition that administration officials including acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf have warned is outside their authority. Powell attended Friday's meeting alongside Flynn, her client who Trump pardoned last month after he had twice pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. Flynn had suggested in a television interview last week that Trump could use the military to rerun the election in certain states, an idea that again arose during Friday's meeting.

They were joined by Patrick Byrne, the founder of Overstock.com, who tweeted afterward that he was disappointed in how Trump is being served by his White House team. "President Trump is being terribly served by his advisers. They want him to lose and are lying to him. He is surrounding by mendacious mediocrities," Byrne wrote, adding later: "For the first time in my life I feel sorry for Donald Trump. He is standing up to his waist in snakes. Trust Rudy and Sidney only."

Byrne, who resigned from Overstock in 2019 after his comments about the "deep state" triggered a steep decline in the company's stock price, did not respond to a request for comment on Monday. He has previously admitted in a series of interviews that he had an intimate relationship with accused Russian agent Maria Butina, which lasted from 2015 to 2018, and ultimately assisted law enforcement in their investigation of her. More recently, he has emerged as a proponent of the debunked election fraud claims heralded by the President and Powell. He said last month he'd "funded a team of hackers and cyber-sleuths, other people with odd skills" to look into the claims.

Friday's meeting was a highly charged example of a recurring phenomenon: Trump's outside advisers raising their voices in anger at White House aides, accusing them of disloyalty and weakness, while Trump looks on.

 

[Naskra]

Yes, your assessment of the situation is bonkers as well as wrong.

Maybe you should watch the Flynn interview. Then learn to discount "anonymous sources", "people familiar with the situation", and "unnamed senior officials".
The only constraint on the fake news industry is your credulity. This gives them very wide latitude.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Maybe you should watch the Flynn interview. Then learn to discount "anonymous sources", "people familiar with the situation", and "unnamed senior officials".
The only constraint on the fake news industry is your credulity. This gives them very wide latitude.

Please post a link!

 

[Birdjaguar]

Maybe you should watch the Flynn interview. Then learn to discount "anonymous sources", "people familiar with the situation", and "unnamed senior officials".
The only constraint on the fake news industry is your credulity. This gives them very wide latitude.

I could not find any Flynn interview, so please do post your link. I did find this though:

https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...to-declare-martial-law-order-new-us-election/

 

[Naskra]

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/trump-election-flynn-martiallaw/2020/12/17/id/1002139/

The interviewer turns the subject to martial law in under two minutes. Flynn foolishly reveals knowledge of the law.

 

[Sommerswerd]

I watched the interview, Flynn absolutely advocates invoking martial law. Sure he tries to couch it in just stating what the hypothetical options are and claiming that he's not calling for anything specifically, but he reveals his hand by also stating that the election is "unsatisfactory" and that "we cannot allow this election to go the way it is".

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Bill Barr said there is no reason to appoint a special prosecutor to go after Hunter Biden, though I expect his replacement to appoint one the day after XMAS. Barr has to know this is going to happen - this way he can give Trump what he wants vicariously without completely shredding what is left of his dignity.

 

[Naskra]

Flynn absolutely advocates invoking martial law.

And then there are those who don't need fake news: they are self-misinforming.

 

[CaptainF]

And then there are those who don't need fake news: they are self-misinforming.

Indeed! In my experience, catholic MAGA fanboys are the best at misinforming themselves. You are a great example!

 

[Cutlass]

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/trump-election-flynn-martiallaw/2020/12/17/id/1002139/

The interviewer turns the subject to martial law in under two minutes. Flynn foolishly reveals knowledge of the law.

Why are you quoting a fascist party propaganda outlet and expecting people to consider it news?

 

[Estebonrober]

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/trump-election-flynn-martiallaw/2020/12/17/id/1002139/

The interviewer turns the subject to martial law in under two minutes. Flynn foolishly reveals knowledge of the law.

Consider the source and what these sources are having to do to cover their asses. . .

Pro-Trump network Newsmax airs lengthy clarification about election - Business Insider

 

[Naskra]

Why are you quoting a fascist party propaganda outlet and expecting people to consider it news?

I am quoting no one. I supplied a link that I was asked for. It's really simple; you can hear the arch-fascist Flynn in his own words.

 

[Broken_Erika]

So when did you drink the cool-aid?

 

[FriendlyFire]

Gaslight
Obstruct
Project <----- we are here now

Officials finally found a case of a dead person voting, and it was a Republican pretending to be his dead mom trying to vote for Trump
Bruce Bartman has been charged with unlawful voting and perjury over allegations that he pretended to be his dead mother to cast a ballot in the November election for President Donald Trump in Pennsylvania.
Delaware County District Attorney Jack Stollsteimer announced the charges in a press release Monday. Bartman was arraigned Friday and released on $US100,000 bail, according to The Philadelphia Inquirer. If convicted on all charges, the 70-year-old Bartman could spend up to 19 years in prison.

Prosecutors said Bartman registered two dead people — his mother, Elizabeth Bartman, and his mother-in-law, Elizabeth Weihman — as Republican voters in August. He used the state’s online voter-registration portal, which allows residents to register to vote using their driver’s licence number or the last four digits of their Social Security number, prosecutors said.

He used his mother-in-law’s Social Security number to register, which was flagged in the state system as belonging to someone who is dead, prosecutors added, but the software sent a letter addressed to her to confirm whether she was alive. Bartman lied on the form and pretended to be Weihman, prosecutors said, but ultimately did not request an absentee ballot in her name.

Bartman also registered his dead mother to vote and ultimately successfully cast a ballot for Trump and other Republicans in her name, prosecutors said.

https://www.businessinsider.com/voter-election-fraud-pennsylvania-charge-dead-mom-vote-trump-2020-12

 

[Birdjaguar]

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/trump-election-flynn-martiallaw/2020/12/17/id/1002139/

The interviewer turns the subject to martial law in under two minutes. Flynn foolishly reveals knowledge of the law.

And then there are those who don't need fake news: they are self-misinforming.

In your interview link Flynn says that the president needs to look at all his options to undo the election. The first option Flynn puts out there is martial law so that he can rerun the elections in the key states he lost. Then he says that John Roberts is a problem because SCOTUS won't listen to the evidence, of which in 50 lawsuits the Repubs have failed to produce any. Then if you look at my link, Flynn is retweeting the need for martial law.And on top of that the sources of the WH meeting all say Flynn and Powell were pushing Trump to go that route. I agree that you are self misinforming yourself as a defense mechanism to preserve you love of Trump.

 

[Naskra]

Flynn suggests that Trump impound the evidence (i.e. the ballots) and recount the votes, presumably without machine assistance. That is not martial law. And it won't happen, so don't worry about it. Flynn is right to say SCOTUS wants no part of this, though he may be wrong about the reasons. Yes, Flynn is linking to the same crap you link to. And I doubt the existence of those White House sources, but that's just me.
And No I do not love Trump. He was created by fake news, it is fitting that he be destroyed by it. Sad, eh?

 

[Berzerker]

If you want people to ignore you, you don't have to type up paragraphs. "The laptop" is sufficient for anyone to stop taking you seriously

Its Hunter's laptop... Why would you deny it when the Bidens wont? It has photos of Hunter's sex and drug parties and email exchanges that have been confirmed by participants.

No. I asked about your quote on Hunter.

That's not the answer.

"Media on November 4th: The FBI announced it is investigating Hunter and has been for a couple years"
What did the FBI find?

Look, if the answer is: I don't know, just say so. I don't know either.

edit:

Indeed

You asked me what the FBI has on the Bidens. They have Tony Bobulinsky's evidence, documents, email exchanges, etc, showing Joe and his family were taking money from China. Bobulinsky is the man the Bidens hired to help set up the 'business', at one point in the process Tony asked Joe's brother how they can get away this, 'plausible deniability' was the response.

James could have added a highly partisan media blackout and 50 former intelligence experts who, without seeing the laptop, dismissed it as Russian disinformation in perfect keeping with the Russiagate narrative. And of course they have the laptop too with emails and documents, the DNI has said it isn't Russian disinformation.

No I haven't as far as I can remember, nor will I. So I will take your word for it that you quote scripture in those and acknowledge that I was wrong to say you don't quote scripture in general. I will also point out that I haven't noticed you quote any scripture in the political threads that I read, whereby you constantly reference the Pharisees and I will repeat, that if you're going to keep harping on the Pharisees, quote the scripture so we can evaluate the context of the reference you're making or the analogy you're drawing. Otherwise we're going to end up on the "Oh I didn't mean that scripture" dodge train.

There's a few verses that come up in political debates but dont get quoted in full, they're known by a few words, render unto Caesar, let he without sin cast the first stone, it is easier for a camel to pass thru the eye of a needle than a rich man enter Heaven, and so on. Look the verse up, quoting it wont do much good without the surrounding context.

Gross... and offensive... but whateves... you do you.

Why is that gross and offensive?

Indeed. So TL;DR you have no idea what scripture you're referring to and since you still can't quote a specific scripture to support it, your analogy is hot air... as usual. Duly noted, skipping the rest.

John 8:7 In my analogy the Pharisee is the Biden voter complaining about Trump's corruption. But their corruption pales in comparison to the war machine the Democrats and Republicans have unleashed upon the world. Given how Biden and Trump have employed that war machine, Trump would be the adulteress and Biden the Pharisee.

That happened? I thought she died in a car crash along with his daughter

She pulled in front of a semi that had the right of way, Joe falsely accused the other driver of DUI.

 

[FriendlyFire]

Its Hunter's laptop... Why would you deny it when the Bidens wont? It has photos of Hunter's sex and drug parties and email exchanges that have been confirmed by participants.

After 4 YEARS of TRUMPS BS and Lies
how are you still regurgitating this without doing a 5 second google search and still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt on anything ?

Hunter Biden had 25,000 pics of him torturing and raping children under age 10 in China on his laptop.

Claims like this were amplified by websites like Natural News and InfoWars.
On Oct. 15, Chanel Rion, the chief White House correspondent for One America News Network — a pro-Trump cable TV network — tweeted that she had seen the contents of the hard drive at the center of the New York Post story.
"Drugs, underage obsessions, power deals," she said in the post. "Druggie Hunter makes Anthony Weiner's down under selfie addiction look normal."

By Sunday, the conspiracy theory had made its way to Fox News. "Sunday Morning Futures" host Maria Bartiromo noted that a name written on the back of a federal subpoena included in the Post’s story appears to belong to Joshua Wilson, an FBI agent who has worked on child pornography cases.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...hecking-unproven-claims-about-hunter-biden-a/

 

[Sommerswerd]

John 8:7 In my analogy the Pharisee is the Biden voter complaining about Trump's corruption. But their corruption pales in comparison to the war machine the Democrats and Republicans have unleashed upon the world. Given how Biden and Trump have employed that war machine, Trump would be the adulteress and Biden the Pharisee.

Now you're talking... here we go.

When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.”

So in this one paragraph you've identified Biden-voters as the Pharisees... but then a couple sentences later, you've switched it to Biden himself being the Pharisees.

There's so much wrong with your analogy, so many holes, so many contradictions, but lets address this contradiction first. Is it Biden himself who is supposed to be the Pharisees or is it Biden-voters? Cause those are two totally different things.

Another thing... the moral of "let he who is without sin cast the first stone", is that unless you are perfect, you are in no position to criticize anyone. So... where the eff do you get off quoting that scripture, but then criticizing Biden... or any of the Democrats FTM? Are you saying that you yourself are without mistake, blemish, or sin? See, the whole point of that scripture, was to highlight that Jesus himself was a perfect being, free from all sin. So he alone was in position to fairly and impartially judge, and ultimately, forgive sin. You are not Jesus, so you cannot invoke the "let he who is without sin" to justify your position on anything. You... like the Pharisees, are an ordinary, sinful mortal being... so when you invoke that scripture, you concede that when you criticize Biden, the Democrats, etc... you are no different than the Pharisees.. you are a flawed, sinful mortal being, hypocritically calling out the sins of others.

Jeez... you've quoted one scripture and your analogy is already falling apart... as expected... which is exactly why I insisted that you quote an actual scripture. Your argument is trash. Class dismissed.

 

[Kyriakos]

The pupils were given a math problem.
What followed was a fight about pokemon go.
This class will only graduate if there is no way not to - CFC must be some private school where father's donation money buys the degree