Cuba and US to normalize relations

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Given Marco Rubio's bashing of our ally at the Vatican, I am expecting President Obama to cut off diplomatic ties with Floriduh.
 
Commodore said:
Exactly. This may be the single best move Obama has made in his entire presidency thus far.
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Before I read this, I was going to echo one of the other "about time" posts. It might be a while before the results show up.
 
luiz said:
Indeed, communist countries have a long history of heeding expert advice and being totally objective and apolitical when it comes to science.

A very informative case regarding agriculture, since we're talking of farmers, is that great Soviet scientific triumph called Lysenkoism.



I don't see why Western farmers (and geneticists!) shouldn't feel excited over the unavoidable communist revolution.
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luiz is still fighting Stalin's ghost...
and losing.

Stalin's Ghost: 74
luiz: 0
 
Locking up scientists isn't in vogue. Though we do have plenty of creationists, antivaccers, and organic foods advocates, so it's a congenial sort of widespread brain damage.
 
Farm Boy said:
Locking up scientists isn't in vogue. Though we do have plenty of creationists, antivaccers, and organic foods advocates, so it's a congenial sort of widespread brain damage.
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Maybe your definition of brain damage is too broad. By definition of psychosis, the "culturally unacceptable delusion" is related to mental disorder, but culturally acceptable delusions are considered normal.
 
I'm thinking it's gotta be related to some form of lingering lead exposure. Or maybe undiagnosed FAE.
 
I guess that the USA needs some cheap work hand, which is weird as there are more than enough Cuban immigrants fleeing to Florida.
 
Archbob said:
What took us so long?
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It makes for interesting reading.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba–United_States_relations

I really don't see this new initiative going very far.
Obama will have to convince Congress to make any real improvement in relations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba

United States embargo against Cuba

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The United States embargo against Cuba (in Cuba el bloqueo) is a commercial, economic, and financial embargo imposed on Cuba . It began on 19 October 1960 (almost two years after the Batista regime was deposed by the Cuban Revolution) when the US placed an embargo on exports to Cuba (except for food and medicine). On 7 February 1962 this was extended to include almost all imports.[1]

Currently, the Cuban embargo is enforced mainly with six statutes: the Trading with the Enemy Act of 1917, the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, the Cuba Assets Control Regulations of 1963, the Cuban Democracy Act of 1992, the Helms–Burton Act of 1996, and the Trade Sanctions Reform and Export Enhancement Act of 2000.[2] The Cuban Democracy Act was signed into law in 1992 with the stated purpose of maintaining sanctions on Cuba so long as the Cuban government refuses to move toward "democratization and greater respect for human rights".[3] In 1996, Congress passed the Helms–Burton Act, which further restricted United States citizens from doing business in or with Cuba, and mandated restrictions on giving public or private assistance to any successor government in Havana unless and until certain claims against the Cuban government are met. In 1999, U.S. President Bill Clinton expanded the trade embargo even further by also disallowing foreign subsidiaries of U.S. companies to trade with Cuba. In 2000, Clinton authorized the sale of "humanitarian" U.S. products to Cuba.

Despite the Spanish term bloqueo (blockade), there has been no physical, naval blockade of the country by the United States after the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962.[4] The United States does not block Cuba's trade with third parties: other countries are not under the jurisdiction of U.S. domestic laws, such as the Cuban Democracy Act (although, in theory, foreign countries that trade with Cuba could be penalised by the U.S., which has been condemned as an "extraterritorial" measure that contravenes "the sovereign equality of States, non-intervention in their internal affairs and freedom of trade and navigation as paramount to the conduct of international affairs."[5]). Cuba can, and does, conduct international trade with many third-party countries;[6] Cuba has been a member of the World Trade Organization (WTO) since 1995.[7]

Beyond Cuba's human rights violations and its state sponsored terrorism designation, the United States holds $6 billion worth of financial claims against the Cuban government.[8] The Cuban-American position is that the U.S. embargo is, in part, an appropriate response to these unaddressed claims.[9] The Latin America Working Group argues that pro-embargo Cuban-American exiles, whose votes are crucial in Florida, have swayed many politicians to also adopt similar views.[10] The Cuban-American views have been opposed by some business leaders who argue that trading freely would be good for Cuba and the United States.[11]

At present, the embargo, which limits American businesses from conducting business with Cuban interests, is still in effect and is the most enduring trade embargo in modern history. Despite the existence of the embargo, the United States is the fifth largest exporter to Cuba (6.6% of Cuba's imports are from the US).[12] However, Cuba must pay cash for all imports, as credit is not allowed.[13]

The UN General Assembly has, since 1992, passed a resolution every year condemning the ongoing impact of the embargo and declaring it to be in violation of the Charter of the United Nations and international law.[2] Human rights groups including Amnesty International,[2] Human Rights Watch,[14] and the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights[15] have also been critical of the embargo. Critics of the embargo say that the embargo laws are too harsh, citing the fact that violations can result in 10 years in prison.
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Farm Boy said:
Locking up scientists isn't in vogue. Though we do have plenty of creationists, antivaccers, and organic foods advocates, so it's a congenial sort of widespread brain damage.
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I'm thinking it's gotta be related to some form of lingering lead exposure. Or maybe undiagnosed FAE.
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We will see if the flu shot helps. :)
 
Castro has never opposed opening up and has actively spoken highly of the American people. He was the one who personally briefed the Henry Reeve medical brigade -- 1500 medical professionals who volunteered to go to New Orleans after Katrina (but were refused by US and instead went to Pakistan for EQ relief.)

Google Fidel's "Reflections" at granma.cu

Edit: and it is the US that limits legal immigration from Cuba, not Cuba.
 
What Castro said in a flattering vein and what his people did are two widely different things.

The US wants to limit the number of people trying to enter, but Cuba does not. I wonder why that is. Hmmm.

Is it because Castro was a tyrant in the worst sense of the word?

J
 
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