[RD] Daily Graphs and Charts

[Naskra]

Y'all take are with those metrics of development afore you put your eye out.

 

[The_J]

The point to that chart was not the useful information. It is that all the information, while technically correct, is presented in such a way as to not be useful.

What, I'm not following.
Some of the stuff is simplified, but still correct, as far as I can see (some of the biology and technology stuff).
Some of the given information itself will not be useful though without some more explanation.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

What, I'm not following.
Some of the stuff is simplified, but still correct, as far as I can see (some of the biology and technology stuff).
Some of the given information itself will not be useful though without some more explanation.

Yeah, I don't see that either. Pasteurization is pretty straightforward and is laid out clearly in the chart. In fact a lot of stuff seems manageable. But remember, the real game changing invention that you can carry with you into the distant past and really jump out ahead is the phalanx.

 

[Cutlass]

What, I'm not following.
Some of the stuff is simplified, but still correct, as far as I can see (some of the biology and technology stuff).
Some of the given information itself will not be useful though without some more explanation.

If you know enough other information, you might be able to use that to advantage. But it's all, or most of it at any rate, sufficiently incomplete so that by itself you could spend your lifetime working out the details.

I think this is actually an inaccurate portrayal, insofar as there has been measurable decline across many metrics of human development in the last few decades, due to the bipartisan consensus on allowing the rich to loot the economy without restraint.

But they aren't in dirt floored shacks without indoor plumbing any longer. So there's that.

 

[Hrothbern]

But remember, the real game changing invention that you can carry with you into the distant past and really jump out ahead is the phalanx.

how about Viagra ?

 

[Lexicus]

But they aren't in dirt floored shacks without indoor plumbing any longer. So there's that.

Is having no indoor plumbing significantly better than having indoor plumbing that delivers toxic undrinkable water?

 

[The_J]

If you know enough other information, you might be able to use that to advantage. But it's all, or most of it at any rate, sufficiently incomplete so that by itself you could spend your lifetime working out the details.

Absolutely true.
Just looked at the biology section, and it needs a heck lot of more work to get any of that going.
The pasteurization might be the only good example, and I'm pretty sure most people would remember that boiling stuff will kill germs (and boiled milk should for most purposes be good enough).

 

[Cutlass]

Is having no indoor plumbing significantly better than having indoor plumbing that delivers toxic undrinkable water?

I think you're mistaking "far less progress than there could have been" with "no progress at all".

 

[dutchfire]

What do you expect? States that continually elect Republicans to govern them end up like third world countries pretty fast.

Look, I like blaming the Republican Party as much as the next guy, but it is a bit hard to pin the blame of the South's poverty on them. The place was in tatters when it was still solid blue.

 

[Naskra]

If their beliefs keep them away, we're fine with that. Let them stay home and watch Mandingo/Deliverance double features.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Look, I like blaming the Republican Party as much as the next guy, but it is a bit hard to pin the blame of the South's poverty on them. The place was in tatters when it was still solid blue.

They may have switched party allegiances but not their politics.

 

[El_Machinae]

It's soooo much more complicated than that. The fiscal prudence / economic theory aspects of the two parties utterly pale in comparison to the other systemic reasons. The major reason that leaps out as being a 'difference' between the two parties is that the 'South' wasn't able to pivot out of racial-based slavery fast enough, and had to suffer those consequences. But it's so much more than that.

 

[dutchfire]

The band of poverty that you see notably includes Missouri and largely excludes Texas, Florida and Virginia, as well as a Nashville - Atlanta - Raleigh corridor.

 

[dutchfire]

Came across this, don't know how accurate it is:
http://verdantlabs.com/politics_of_professions/

 

[stfoskey12]

Is having no indoor plumbing significantly better than having indoor plumbing that delivers toxic undrinkable water?

Where in the South you talking about? I've traveled thru a lot of the South and never had any issues with the drinking water. Water in beach communities tastes bad but it's still drinkable.

 

[Lexicus]

Where in the South you talking about? I've traveled thru a lot of the South and never had any issues with the drinking water. Water in beach communities tastes bad but it's still drinkable.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...cans-exposed-unsafe-drinking-water/564278001/

63 million Americans exposed to unsafe drinking water

 

[Lexicus]

Look, I like blaming the Republican Party as much as the next guy, but it is a bit hard to pin the blame of the South's poverty on them. The place was in tatters when it was still solid blue.

I'm actually talking about places like Michigan and Wisconsin and Kansas. Anyway, you're right insofar as the Republicans today represent the same political forces as the Democrats represented back when the South was blue. It's the same culprits even if the political parties change.

 

[Takhisis]

Look, I like blaming the Republican Party as much as the next guy, but it is a bit hard to pin the blame of the South's poverty on them. The place was in tatters when it was still solid blue.

Basically, around the 1960s the Democrats and Republicans started switching positions regarding slavery, the South rising again, etc. That's why present-day commentators speak of ‘conservative Democrats’ and ‘liberal Republicans’.

btw look at who changed allegiances between Repubs and Dems and back again (with a brief stopover at Reform).

 

[dutchfire]

It's somewhat eye opening how poor the entire south is.

What do you expect? States that continually elect Republicans to govern them end up like third world countries pretty fast.

I'm actually talking about places like Michigan and Wisconsin and Kansas. Anyway, you're right insofar as the Republicans today represent the same political forces as the Democrats represented back when the South was blue. It's the same culprits even if the political parties change.

 

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