Kentharu
Zebra Commander
I think I had slightly different circumstances. Namely Bill being an ignorant dick. It's not like you are going to change the update soooooo can't wait for update 5?
DaNES II: When the Stars Fall
- Thread starter Dachs
- Start date
Kraznaya
Princeps
Ken the obvious solution is to switch to the Qypchaqs.
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
Oh, wow. Welcome back! I suppose my army quality declined because I lost veteran cadres to retirement when the polemarchy was abolished? (Also, I know that upkeep costs go up when quality does, so shouldn't there be a concurrent effect when quality goes down? Because I haven't seen it.)
Also, I'd like to understand why my Megale Hellenic poleis are so meh despite the glorious victories. Besides that, really great update.
From: The Republic of Panormos
To: The Kingdom of Istria
That's a nice fleet you have there. Shame if something were to happen to it. Here's how this is going to work: You're going to give us 30 talents each year, and we are going to protect you. Also, don't you think a league would work much better than a kingdom? We certainly do.
Also, I'd like to understand why my Megale Hellenic poleis are so meh despite the glorious victories. Besides that, really great update.
From: The Republic of Panormos
To: The Kingdom of Istria
That's a nice fleet you have there. Shame if something were to happen to it. Here's how this is going to work: You're going to give us 30 talents each year, and we are going to protect you. Also, don't you think a league would work much better than a kingdom? We certainly do.
Kentharu
Zebra Commander
From The Mazkata Horde
TO Sogdiana
Peace at current borders.
TO Sogdiana
Peace at current borders.
An excellent update! What happened to the trade with the Patalene League? Did it all work out, and if so which ports have I gained concessions in, or did I end up having to restore tariffs in Harmozeia? Also, did my census have any effect?
To Kaspareia
From Areia
Are you ignoring me or are the Baktrians being uncooperative?
To Seleukids
From Areia
Five years after this destructive war, shall we try to encourage a restoration of trade between our nations by cooperating in building new roads and bridges to ensure that trade is not inhibited unduly by the new boundaries?
To Kaspareia
From Areia
Are you ignoring me or are the Baktrians being uncooperative?
To Seleukids
From Areia
Five years after this destructive war, shall we try to encourage a restoration of trade between our nations by cooperating in building new roads and bridges to ensure that trade is not inhibited unduly by the new boundaries?
Kraznaya
Princeps
We're the Wu.
All you Chinese look the same anyway
Also, I'll assume the Xianbei raid was punishment for my profligate country switching. I'll take it like a man!
OOC: Nice job Dachs.
From: Baktria
To: Kaspeireia
We are willing to negotiate peace with us annexing all land held west of the Indus River and a payment of 1000 talents.
From: Baktria
To: Sogdiane
Congratulations comrades.
From: Baktria
To: Areia
We demand that your purchase of our territory and conversion efforts immediately desist.
From: Baktria
To: Kaspeireia
We are willing to negotiate peace with us annexing all land held west of the Indus River and a payment of 1000 talents.
From: Baktria
To: Sogdiane
Congratulations comrades.
From: Baktria
To: Areia
We demand that your purchase of our territory and conversion efforts immediately desist.
foolish icarus
Shipwreck
Behold! A swift steppe pony comes from the eastern dust, under banner of parley. A courier is led to the tent of the yabghu. He bows and reads aloud:
And one into the marches of Baktra:
While we're at it, let's attract the attention of the northern behemoth.
Spoiler Basileus Nikias I of Sogdiane hails Spadahaura Ardashir of Mazsakata :
And one into the marches of Baktra:
Spoiler Basileus Nikias I of Sogdiane hails his Basileus Diodotos VI of Baktria :
While we're at it, let's attract the attention of the northern behemoth.
Spoiler Basileus Nikias I of Sogdiane hails Bunaq Qagan of Qypchak :
How much of that Makedonia was actually Theige's orders?
Army quality went down because of that but also because you lost men and then started hiring new formations which never got combat experience. Upkeep went down somewhat but also went up because you hired new troops, built new ships, and conquered new territory. Your Megale Hellenic poleis are meh because that opinion accounts for both "your" Megale Hellenic poleis and the ones you just raped from Chaonia, which are somewhat less interested in this whole thing so far.
Why would the ruler of Istria want to trade his removal from political power and some money for a protectorate? We're open to the protectorate idea but our government is our own affair.Thlayli said:
OOC: What do you mean by "league"?
You got your concession in Oraia and the Patalan fleet is intermittently patrolling the area for pirate-protection.
Yes.spryllino said:
Huh?spryllino said:
You haven't switched countries. You just never sent orders for, like, anything. The Xianbei thing was more "likely opportunism" than anything else.
Counter-proposal: the map below and 500 talents.
Spoiler Bunaq Qagan, Ever-Mighty Ruler of All the Lands to the Ice-Bound Ocean, to His Sniveling Servant, Basileus Nikias I of Sogdiane :
Theige's orders ceased to be operative as soon as Archelaos III's head was turned into a Rux drinking cup.
With that in mind, the Maks are open to peace. I might make a proposal after I add the Indian janx.
Reno
The Studio Ghibli Fanatic
OOC: Yay, Dachs is back. And this is why I hoped that the Iberians wouldn't assemble against me, but it's what I certainly would've done if I was them. Can't blame 'em.
IC:
To: Istria
From: The Aorsi
For an annual tribute of 25 talents, our hordes shall protect your newfound domain.
OOC: More diplo later.
And this is why I hoped that the Iberians wouldn't assemble against me, but it's what I certainly would've done if I was them. Can't blame 'em.IC:
To: Istria
From: The Aorsi
For an annual tribute of 25 talents, our hordes shall protect your newfound domain.
OOC: More diplo later.
Espoir
Warlord
Awesome update. Questions coming.
From The Kimmerians
To the Goths
Leave forever, you bastard barbarians. You have no future in our land except the blackest death. Disturb us not and we shall not seek further retribution.
From the Kimmerians
To the Perseids
You will have our material support against the Ghassanids should you acknowledge our claim as Ierophantus.
From the Kimmerians
To the Mysians
Reduce tariffs by 10% on all our goods or we may be forced to intervene in Anatolian affairs.
From The Kimmerians
To the Goths
Leave forever, you bastard barbarians. You have no future in our land except the blackest death. Disturb us not and we shall not seek further retribution.
From the Kimmerians
To the Perseids
You will have our material support against the Ghassanids should you acknowledge our claim as Ierophantus.
From the Kimmerians
To the Mysians
Reduce tariffs by 10% on all our goods or we may be forced to intervene in Anatolian affairs.
We were subsidising our farmers, as it is necessary to after a destructive war. They were well within their rights to buy up land, and it would be appropriate for neither of us to stop them. However, we do not intend to continue to subsidise our agriculture to such a great extent in future anyway, because our border farmers clearly have plenty of (or even too much) money now.
We shall inform the Zoroastrian clergy within Areia that they are to use any Areian royal donations for maintenance, security and community projects instead of for missionary work.
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
On the upkeep: Meh. Upkeep already increased around 1300 this turn anyways, ~800ish of which I know came from the new Megale poleis, and ~500ish of which I assume came from recruiting new troops. I'm not exactly sure where the upkeep decrease from quality declining comes in. I guess I'm just nitpicking, but I would appreciate it if you took another look.
On Istria: The leader's an Archon, supposedly, so I don't get why he's ruling a kingdom. By league, I mean "slightly looser alliance of city-states," one that would be more resilient if the capital gets sacked. We'll agree to the protectorate regardless for the required fee.
On Istria: The leader's an Archon, supposedly, so I don't get why he's ruling a kingdom. By league, I mean "slightly looser alliance of city-states," one that would be more resilient if the capital gets sacked. We'll agree to the protectorate regardless for the required fee.
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
From: The Republic of Panormos
To: The Aorsi Horde
Despite our newfound strength in Italia, we don't want to repeat the last war between us, which cost us each thousands of soldiers to little end. We offer the Murunda a gift of 50 talents to show our good intent, and we hope that you will keep your horsemen away from the territory of Panormos and Istria.
To: The Aorsi Horde
Despite our newfound strength in Italia, we don't want to repeat the last war between us, which cost us each thousands of soldiers to little end. We offer the Murunda a gift of 50 talents to show our good intent, and we hope that you will keep your horsemen away from the territory of Panormos and Istria.
