Dear American Liberals: It's not my fault if your history is so straight and male.

[yung.carl.jung]

these posts are getting so layered they're like my midnight sandwiches..

 

[Timsup2nothin]

these posts are getting so layered they're like my midnight sandwiches..

Who can be bothered with layers at midnight? My midnight sandwich is usually potato salad on a hamburger bun. Fast, easy, all the condiments built in.

 

[Farm Boy]

Bread, peanut butter, small marshmellows, American cheese, PB, marshmellows, bread, PB, marshmellows, cheese, PB, marshmellows, bread.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Bread, peanut butter, small marshmellows, American cheese, PB, marshmellows, bread, PB, marshmellows, cheese, PB, marshmellows, bread.

By the time you get that made I've had two potato salad sandwiches and gone back to bed.

 

[Hygro]

HIStory guys not RUSSIANTSARstory.

 

[Angst]

DANISH SANDWICHES ARE KNOWN FOR BEING OPEN AND NOT HAVING ANY REAL LAYERS
/national localist particularism joke
/altho seriously danish restaurants sometimes pride themselves over these things https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smørrebrød
/i just tried being funny seeing that tim is much more funnier than me I HAVE TO TRY DENMARK #1 SO MUCH IMPORTANT COUNTRY

 

[Timsup2nothin]

DANISH SANDWICHES ARE KNOWN FOR BEING OPEN AND NOT HAVING ANY REAL LAYERS
/national localist particularism joke
/altho seriously danish restaurants sometimes pride themselves over these things https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smørrebrød
/i just tried being funny seeing that tim is much more funnier than me I HAVE TO TRY DENMARK #1 SO MUCH IMPORTANT COUNTRY

I will acknowledge your humor in exchange for one Danish open face sandwich, delivered.

Denmark #1

 

[bernie14]

DANISH SANDWICHES ARE KNOWN FOR BEING OPEN AND NOT HAVING ANY REAL LAYERS
/national localist particularism joke
/altho seriously danish restaurants sometimes pride themselves over these things https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smørrebrød
/i just tried being funny seeing that tim is much more funnier than me I HAVE TO TRY DENMARK #1 SO MUCH IMPORTANT COUNTRY

That looks delish!!

Edit. Honest..the ingredients and combinations look seriously YUMMY!!

 

[Angst]

That looks delish!!

It's actually extremely tasty stuff. If you ever visit, make sure you pass by a smørrebrøds-maker.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

At risk of being smugmerican, there's a place in LA that's supposed to be authentic and really good. Since @bernie14 has given up on eating my dogs and I've given up on feeding him to them that's an easier, no passport required visit. @Angst could come along as our authenticity checker.

 

[red_elk]

HIStory guys not RUSSIANTSARstory.

The English word "history" itself reflects male dominance.
I propose to use hertory instead.

 

[Angst]

At risk of being smugmerican, there's a place in LA that's supposed to be authentic and really good. Since @bernie14 has given up on eating my dogs and I've given up on feeding him to them that's an easier, no passport required visit. @Angst could come along as our authenticity checker.

If I ever pass by LA I promise I'll stop by.

(I'm vegetarian tho so it's been a while since I've eaten them with meat, and so it'll be tough. But I'll promise to try.)

 

[Hygro]

The English word "history" itself reflects male dominance.
I propose to use hertory instead.

Ok but as long as it's ourparliament.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

If I ever pass by LA I promise I'll stop by.

(I'm vegetarian tho so it's been a while since I've eaten them with meat, and so it'll be tough. But I'll promise to try.)

It's LA. I'm sure they'll have a vegetarian option.

 

[brennan]

The English word "history" itself reflects male dominance.
I propose to use hertory instead.

I actually had to have this argument with someone earlier this year.

 

[Traitorfish]

1. I am annoyed with Anglospherians "knowing history" in a very lopsided way in general.
I.e. it's either incredibly blinders-down Anglo-history or it's some pseudo-woke "world history" that gives ever so mildly condescending credit to all the cute "brown" peoples who could (this is usually about Mali or about Swahili traders or Majapahit; it's curiously never about the Taungu and Ayutthaya or about Ming China or about the Ottoman Empire at any point before 1811; and it sure as heck makes a strenuous effort to pretend continental Europe doesn't exist).

I mean, if I was going to find something to object to in the dominant way of public history education in the English speaking, it would be the uncritical adherence a narrowly Protestant-Whiggish triumphal narrative, rather than, like, "insufficiently Ottoman". Challenge this stuff on its ground, as a history of this semi-mythical "Anglosphere" (itself a construction of this Protestant-Whig narrative to which supposedly Anglo-critical commentators are surprisingly deferential) before expecting us to handle the rest of the world without screwing it up.

Also, I don't know where you're getting this idea that Mali or Majapahit figure large in Western historical education... Except that both of these kingdoms happened to feature in recent episodes of the animated YouTube channel, ExtraHistory, which seems a bizarrely narrow sample.

 

[Gori the Grey]

You guys are making this way too complicated.

I'm not buying this. You went to the trouble of constructing 10 riddles. The total meaning of your rant is going to lie in the total meaning of those ten riddles. They have to be cracked each in turn, then their aggregate meaning assembled.

I feel so remiss in not being able to turn the required attention to this. And I'm not sure the Thanksgiving holiday (here in the states ) will help.

 

[sophie]

I mean, if I was going to find something to object to in the dominant way of public history education in the English speaking, it would be the uncritical adherence a narrowly Protestant-Whiggish triumphal narrative, rather than, like, "insufficiently Ottoman". Challenge this stuff on its ground, as a history of this semi-mythical "Anglosphere" (itself a construction of this Protestant-Whig narrative to which supposedly Anglo-critical commentators are surprisingly deferential) before expecting us to handle the rest of the world without screwing it up.

Also, I don't know where you're getting this idea that Mali or Majapahit figure large in Western historical education... Except that both of these kingdoms happened to feature in recent episodes of the animated YouTube channel, ExtraHistory, which seems a bizarrely narrow sample.

I mean, this also seems to imply that that wasn't a Thing German and French social thinkers/historians were doing at precisely the same time.

 

[Angst]

It's LA. I'm sure they'll have a vegetarian option.

They have in Denmark, so they sure as hell should if authentic

 

[Traitorfish]

I mean, this also seems to imply that that wasn't a Thing German and French social thinkers/historians were doing at precisely the same time.

Sure, but they probably weren't so insufferably Protestant about the whole thing.

(Well, maybe some of the Germans were. But they have enough insufferable Catholics to start balancing it out.)