berserks01
Obviously Very Confused
Huh? Oh ... Doh!!! Sorry, totally slipped my mind and I had time to play last night too. Guess it's a skip for me this round.
DMAW04 - A Testing War
- Thread starter Ozbenno
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GreyFox
Make it so ...
well, if you can take it within 24hrs, go ahead, no need to skip.
berserks01
Obviously Very Confused
No, you go ahead and take it. My empty playable slots are sporadic at best, so I'll take a skip to get the game moving.
GreyFox
Make it so ...
Our forces started the pillaging ... and Zare is doing us the favor of founding a religion for our taking.
Bravely, we settled a city right at the doorstep of ZY.
But I think our other cities are too lightly defended, so I am adding Immortals in those cities only defended by one unit.
Meanwhile our forces continue to pillage, then I saw this:
Hmm ... ZY is now amassing a lot of troops in that city, so for safety sake, I attacked the HA and chariots, and decided to pull back next turn. His initial forces, feeling suicidal, charged at our stack, costing him some chariots and an axe. Our forces are now resting at exactly the same spot where I began ...
Oh, by the way, we are offcially broke:
Bravely, we settled a city right at the doorstep of ZY.
But I think our other cities are too lightly defended, so I am adding Immortals in those cities only defended by one unit.
Meanwhile our forces continue to pillage, then I saw this:
Hmm ... ZY is now amassing a lot of troops in that city, so for safety sake, I attacked the HA and chariots, and decided to pull back next turn. His initial forces, feeling suicidal, charged at our stack, costing him some chariots and an axe. Our forces are now resting at exactly the same spot where I began ...
Oh, by the way, we are offcially broke:
Spoiler :
Broke heh? We'll see if we can do something about that. Gondar looks temptingly lightly defended.
I'm up and got it for tonight or tomorrow.
I'm up and got it for tonight or tomorrow.
Have you noticed that the great wall is visible to the far west? There is another civ there which we haven't met yet. Perhaps we need another city by the lake (gems, copper, cows and sugar) to block of future invasions from that direction. But not until our economy has recovered, of course.
Was one of the things I wanted to get going was exploration to find the other civs. The gems city should pay for itself if its working the gems but I'll probably hold off.
A quick review of the situation shows we have no happy resources. Gems might be needed after all.
Anyway on with the show.
I was very tempted by Gondar, even more so after this.
My Immortal gobbles up the axe and we head onwards and take the city.
<missing screenshot>
We need the religion otherwise I'd raze it.
We pop a GG in Beijing. Unsure what to do?
We find Bismark.
Zara attacks Gondar with swords and axes and kills most of our troops.
. The attackers are dealt with but we're short here. Reinforcements on the way. I'm thinking it was 
to take it but it was so tempting.
And that was 10. We're still a long way from Construction. Wondering if Meditation (or Calendar or Code of Laws) might be better to get a monastery to Gondar. In any case I'm building a road there for a hopeful free spread.
An Immortal, axe and archer will hit Gondar next turn, which should allow proper defence. We need to boost troop numbers in general before we do any more offensive manouvers (pillaging Bismark and Zara).
Happiness is still our biggest issue. Beijing and Persepolis in particular have plenty of food to grow. I kept looking at the gems, thinking they would be nice but unsure we can afford them (although once we're working them we should be all right).
The GG is still in Beijing. Not sure whether to merge here or Persepolis or create an uber Immortal or medic Immortal
Roster:
Ozbenno - still wondering if he should have taken Gondar
Conroe - UP
civman123 - On Deck
yena
berserks01
Grey Fox
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/88650/DMAW04_BC-0125.CivBeyondSwordSave
Anyway on with the show.
I was very tempted by Gondar, even more so after this.
My Immortal gobbles up the axe and we head onwards and take the city.
<missing screenshot>
We need the religion otherwise I'd raze it.
We pop a GG in Beijing. Unsure what to do?
We find Bismark.
Zara attacks Gondar with swords and axes and kills most of our troops.
. The attackers are dealt with but we're short here. Reinforcements on the way. I'm thinking it was to take it but it was so tempting.And that was 10. We're still a long way from Construction. Wondering if Meditation (or Calendar or Code of Laws) might be better to get a monastery to Gondar. In any case I'm building a road there for a hopeful free spread.
An Immortal, axe and archer will hit Gondar next turn, which should allow proper defence. We need to boost troop numbers in general before we do any more offensive manouvers (pillaging Bismark and Zara).
Happiness is still our biggest issue. Beijing and Persepolis in particular have plenty of food to grow. I kept looking at the gems, thinking they would be nice but unsure we can afford them (although once we're working them we should be all right).
The GG is still in Beijing. Not sure whether to merge here or Persepolis or create an uber Immortal or medic Immortal
Roster:
Ozbenno - still wondering if he should have taken Gondar
Conroe - UP
civman123 - On Deck
yena
berserks01
Grey Fox
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/88650/DMAW04_BC-0125.CivBeyondSwordSave
GreyFox
Make it so ...
Good job taking Gondar ... but 
for missing the most glorious screentshot of your turnset 
The defenders from Susa could be pulled to defend Gondar temporarily.
A super medic is advisable.
If we have the production in capitol, an alternative is to go for the Pyramids. Representation will add +3 happiness immediately to 3 largest cities, or HR would allow us to grow in all cities, saving us the need to get monarchy by research.
And of-course if we fail to get pyramids, the money will be handy in allowing deficit research.
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for missing the most glorious screentshot of your turnset The defenders from Susa could be pulled to defend Gondar temporarily.
A super medic is advisable.
If we have the production in capitol, an alternative is to go for the Pyramids. Representation will add +3 happiness immediately to 3 largest cities, or HR would allow us to grow in all cities, saving us the need to get monarchy by research.
And of-course if we fail to get pyramids, the money will be handy in allowing deficit research.
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Actually that's a really good idea. I'd certainly consider it (if I remember was about 40 turns though
).berserks01
Obviously Very Confused
Is it +3 happiness in 3 largest cities? I always thought it's +5 happiness in 5 largest cities or did this get changed somewhere along the way and escaped my insightful
scan: ) observations?
GreyFox
Make it so ...
Well it is definitely +3 , how many cities depends on map size IIRC.
, how many cities depends on map size IIRC.
Is it +3 happiness in 3 largest cities? I always thought it's +5 happiness in 5 largest cities or did this get changed somewhere along the way and escaped my insightful
Definately 3 happiness in 3 cities (might be 5 and 5 on huge maps).
berserks01
Obviously Very Confused
I've remember seeing +5 in 5 on standard map since I always play standard maps....maybe I'm just too 
and am seeing things.
Edit: Just took a look. It's +3 happiness in 5 largest cities. Go figure.
and am seeing things.Edit: Just took a look. It's +3 happiness in 5 largest cities. Go figure.
Thanks for the PM, Ozbenno! Unfortunately, it is going to be a couple of days before I can play it. If someone has some free time, a swap might be in order.
Having said that, I'm not sure that diverting production away from troops in an AW game is our best move. Do we have enough troops to reinforce Gondar, as well as to harass Germany?
Were our losses in Gondar from a lack of healing? If so, I'd probably go for the medic. Otherwise, I'd say merge him in a different city so that we have 2 cities pumping out 5xp units.The GG is still in Beijing. Not sure whether to merge here or Persepolis or create an uber Immortal or medic Immortal
That would have been my guess. But I wasn't really sure, since I don't normally switch to rep for the happiness. I think it does change based upon map size or speed or something, though.
Having said that, I'm not sure that diverting production away from troops in an AW game is our best move. Do we have enough troops to reinforce Gondar, as well as to harass Germany?
OK, civman123 if you can play in the next 48 hours, swap with Conroe otherwise we'll wait.
As for Pyramids, short term we need the troop production but wonders stay longer in AW so may still be an option medium term.
As for Pyramids, short term we need the troop production but wonders stay longer in AW so may still be an option medium term.
Yep, I'm going to upgrade. I (for once) didn't select "Lock Modified Assets", so while it would be good if everyone upgrades its not essential.
berserks01
Obviously Very Confused
I just upgraded ... 
In further great news, the patch doesn't seem to be backwards compatible, ie once you upgrade those with 3.03 can't open the saves. This is going to play havoc with SGs everywhere.
I haven't patched (well I did but re-installed from scratch). Who has and who hasn't? We'll need to sort out an all-in (one way or the other) approach.
I haven't patched (well I did but re-installed from scratch). Who has and who hasn't? We'll need to sort out an all-in (one way or the other) approach.
