Dumb and Stupid Quotes Thread: Idiotic Source and Context are Key.

Never did understand the whole "those poor companies" sentiment. They're nearly always on the better ends of unequal power relationships.
 
Speaking about what metadata the government is interested in under their proposed data retention scheme:

"It's not what you're doing on the internet, it's the sites you're visiting" - Tony Abbott
 
The Attorney-General, George Brandis, gave an interview on the same topic:

Interviewer (Sky News): If I go to the Sky News website, The Australian website, a more questionable website ... is that what we're talking about here?
Brandis: Well I...th...w...ma...m...my...the...what you're viewing on the internet is not what we're interested in and that's not what we regard...
Interviewer: But you'll be able to see whether I've been to that website, or that website, or that website.
Brandis: Well...what we'll be able...what the security agencies want to know...to be retained...is the...the electronic address of the website, that the web user is visiting.
Interviewer: So it does tell you the website.
Brandis: Well it...it...it tells you the address of the website.
Interviewer: That's the website, isn't it? It tells you...what website you've been to...?
Brandis: Well when you visit a website, you...you know...people...you know...browse from one thing to the next and...and...and that browsing history won't be retained or...or...or...or there won't be any capacity to access that.
Interviewer: :hmm: Excuse my confusion here, but if...if you are retaining the web address...you are retaining the website...aren't you?
Brandis: Well...the...every website has an electronic address, right?
Interviewer: Yep. And that's recorded?
Brandis: And, when there's a connection...when a connection is made between one computer terminal and a web...ah...address, that fact, and the time of the connection, and the duration of the connection, is what we mean by metadata in that context.
Interviewer: But that is...telling you...where I've been on the web.
Brandis: Well...it...it...it...it...it...it...it records what web...ah...what electronic web address has been accessed.
Interviewer: :hmm: ... I don't see the difference between that, and the website?
Brandis: Well when you...when you go to a website, it...it...commonly...it...a per...you will go from one web page to another...from one link to another within that website...that's not what we're interested in.
Interviewer: Okay...but okay, so in the overarching...if I go to Sky News website...ah...it'll tell that, but not necessarily the links within that that I go to?
Brandis: Yes.


I suppose this is what happens when people who have no clue about anything related to the internet are trying to legislate for it.
 
SO then they don't record you if you go to a irc:// or a ftp:// or a gopher:// site? They only track http:// sites? That's bizarre.
 
"Homosexuality is not 'normal.' On the contrary, it is a challenge to the norm; therein rests its eternally revolutionary character Queer theorists - that wizened crew of flimflamming free-loaders - have tried to take the post structuralist tack of claiming that there is no norm, since everything is relative and contingent. This is the kind of silly bind that word-obsessed people get into when they are deaf, dumb, and blind to the outside world. Nature exists, whether academics like it or not. And in nature, procreation is the single, relentless rule. That is the norm. Our sexual bodies were designed for reproduction. Penis fits vagina; no fancy linguistic game-playing can change that biologic fact." Camille Paglia
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Did he forget a conjunction or is he taking a really, really long view?
 
"Disneyland and Disney World have both been reported as being used in “Princess Programing” to create high level sex slaves like Britney Spears."

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From an article on some random conspiracy theory website I just came across that claims Disney is part of the sexually perverted demonic Illuminati royal bloodline conspiracy or something like that. Don't want to link the entire article, even though it's hilarious, as it's mildly NSFW, but I guess I just lost a few brain cells.
 
Camikaze said:
The Attorney-General, George Brandis, gave an interview on the same topic:

Interviewer (Sky News): If I go to the Sky News website, The Australian website, a more questionable website ... is that what we're talking about here?
Brandis: Well I...th...w...ma...m...my...the...what you're viewing on the internet is not what we're interested in and that's not what we regard...
Interviewer: But you'll be able to see whether I've been to that website, or that website, or that website.
Brandis: Well...what we'll be able...what the security agencies want to know...to be retained...is the...the electronic address of the website, that the web user is visiting.
Interviewer: So it does tell you the website.
Brandis: Well it...it...it tells you the address of the website.
Interviewer: That's the website, isn't it? It tells you...what website you've been to...?
Brandis: Well when you visit a website, you...you know...people...you know...browse from one thing to the next and...and...and that browsing history won't be retained or...or...or...or there won't be any capacity to access that.
Interviewer: :hmm: Excuse my confusion here, but if...if you are retaining the web address...you are retaining the website...aren't you?
Brandis: Well...the...every website has an electronic address, right?
Interviewer: Yep. And that's recorded?
Brandis: And, when there's a connection...when a connection is made between one computer terminal and a web...ah...address, that fact, and the time of the connection, and the duration of the connection, is what we mean by metadata in that context.
Interviewer: But that is...telling you...where I've been on the web.
Brandis: Well...it...it...it...it...it...it...it records what web...ah...what electronic web address has been accessed.
Interviewer: :hmm: ... I don't see the difference between that, and the website?
Brandis: Well when you...when you go to a website, it...it...commonly...it...a per...you will go from one web page to another...from one link to another within that website...that's not what we're interested in.
Interviewer: Okay...but okay, so in the overarching...if I go to Sky News website...ah...it'll tell that, but not necessarily the links within that that I go to?
Brandis: Yes.


I suppose this is what happens when people who have no clue about anything related to the internet are trying to legislate for it.
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That was painful to read.

Reminds me of a local politician clown, who a few days ago on tv said (in a pompous tone) that the national electricity company creates electricity in... Gigabytes.

Those people are not just scum, but dumb as they come as well.
 
Strictly speaking, if you're in e.g. a gay club, then homosexuality is normal and heterosexuality is abnormal. Norms are by definition contextual.
 
It's normal that across mammals gay rates are like, ~5%, which seems about the rate for humans as well. Her appeal to nature failed, showing how flimsy her great quote is.

Mostly I was reacting to it being put in the "Great Quotes" thread, like really? A poor argument based on aesthetics and a false nature appeal in the great quotes thread? A great quote is like, " 'In the practical art of war, the best thing of all is to take the enemy's country whole and intact; to shatter and destroy it is not so good. So, too, it is better to recapture an army entire than to destroy it, to capture a regiment, a detachment or a company entire than to destroy them.

'Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.' - Sun Tzu"

Also, a great quote needs to be timeless (or very well timed), but not because it's going to be forever unfashionably bigoted.
 
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