Either there is a God, or there isn't.

[diablodelmar]

I can't vote in the poll, as I sincerely maintain there is no reason for me to believe that there is, and there is no reason for me to believe that there isn't a God. Taking a firm stance on it is silly.

You are an Atheist mate! Take it from me.

 

[warpus]

If there is a God then we'd better find out who he is and what he wants!

Why? What if he doesn't want anything from us?

There is no imperical evidence to support the (non)existence of a God.

There is no such thing as evidence for the non-existence of something. You could spend all eterninty trying to prove that invisible pancakes don't exist, and you wouldn't get anywhere. It's impossible.

In effect, evolution teaches us that we are Gods. We are slowly becoming more and more like perfect Gods through a slow process.

The theory of evolution teaches us no such thing. If that what Evolution implies to you then you don't know enough about it! Yes, we are evolving, but we are far from perfect - and since evolution doesn't have a goal in mind, we'll never be perfect.

What is your take? If you don't believe in a God (Atheist) then tell me, in some relative detail, what (or who, more specifically) defines right from wrong? The government?

Pretty much. The government passes laws that we are supposed to follow - that's not the same as defining right from wrong, though. There is no ultimate authority on what is right and what is wrong.

Well, can't vote in the poll because I'm agnostic. I believe both poll options are belief in something that hasn't been proven either way. I prefer to reserve judgement until I see evidence one way or the other. I often play Texas Hold'em Poker; right now I have no idea what the down cards are in the other hand.

Weak atheists hold no beliefs regarding God

 

[The Last Conformist]

No, I believe that Arioch existed. Please sir, don't jump to conclusions when
a) You know less about me than anyone
b) you haven't even heard me so much as hint to the fact that some dude called Arioch didn't exist.
and c) You think you know something that you in reality only have a vague idea of.

Damn. Here I go and pick a name of a fictional god, and it turns out there's a dude with the same name in Genesis. I was refering to the chaos god Arioch known from the writings of Michael Moorcock, not the Genesis dude.

 

[Mathilda]

No reason to believe God exists.
No reason to believe Jesus didn't exist.
No reason to believe there was anything supernatural about him.

@ TLC - touché

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

By the way everybody, could somebody tell me (in support of Jesus non-existence):

b) Why it is that every archaeologist who set out to go to the Middle East to disprove the existence of Jesus Christ has become a Christian?

Like whom? You shouldn't make such bold claims without any proof.

Anyways, I believe in God, but I arrived at this belief, essentially, because I think He told me so. No one else on earth can take my word for it. I also believe that God can be all-loving and supremely morally good, but because of the way the universe is set up He has to allow evil or the results won't be as good.

I can understand how one may come to the conclusion that God doesn't exist, but I think they are wrong if they then insist that anyone who thinks they have a reason for belief in God must be mistaken. To use an analogy, I think I know what salt tastes like. Just because I can't describe it to someone who has never tasted salt doesn't mean that I haven't really tasted it.

 

[The Last Conformist]

I don't know of any archaeologists who have gone to the Middle East to disprove the existence of Jesus. If there are any, they weren't too clever to begin with, given the problems inherent in proving a negative, so them turning Christian wouldn't be a surprise.

 

[Smellincoffee]

There is no other way out (strangely enough). Both possibilities are frightening. If there is a God then we'd better find out who he is and what he wants!

If there isn't a God, then we are hurtling through space at 66,000 MPH with nobody to care about us.

Ok, well then, lets imagine you do know half of everything. Do you think it might be possible that God exists in the other half that you don't know?
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Someone has been watching Kent Hovind -- both of those quotes (and a few others in your posts) are straight from his videos. ...

Believing in God is like believing in inevitable nuclear war. I hope there is no god, and hope that humanity maintains it senses and a nuclear war never comes. I think of myself as nontheistic -- I don't know if there is a god, but I don't live my life around the possibility of there being one.

 

[diablodelmar]

Damn. Here I go and pick a name of a fictional god, and it turns out there's a dude with the same name in Genesis. I was refering to the chaos god Arioch known from the writings of Michael Moorcock, not the Genesis dude.

Thats funny.

Wait a minute, do you believe in Arioch?

 

[diablodelmar]

Someone has been watching Kent Hovind -- both of those quotes (and a few others in your posts) are straight from his videos. ...

Believing in God is like believing in inevitable nuclear war. I hope there is no god, and hope that humanity maintains it senses and a nuclear war never comes. I think of myself as nontheistic -- I don't know if there is a god, but I don't live my life around the possibility of there being one.

Actually, I was wondering who would notice it first!

 

[Hotpoint]

By the way everybody, could somebody tell me (in support of Jesus non-existence):

a)Why Josephus Tacitus and Pliny all mention Jesus Christ? This has already been brought up.

Whilst there are quite a number who subscribe to the theory of a mythological Jesus for the most part the argument is more one of whether he was a Deity (or the son of a Deity) or not.

As I said it's the supernatural aspects that are suspect.

b) Why it is that every archeaologist who set out to go to the Middle East to disprove the existence of Jesus Christ has become a christian?

Please try and back that up

There are certainly sections of the Bible that have been shown to be false by the archeology.

 

[The Last Conformist]

Thats funny.

Wait a minute, do you believe in Arioch?

Which of them?

I don't believe in the Moorcockian Arioch,for similar reasons I don't believe in your god. I only just learnt of the one mentioned in Genesis, and as yet has no opinion whether his historical existence is likely or plausible.

 

[blackheart]

Just a question, diablodelmar.

I'm Buddhist and don't believe in the Christian god. Where's my option in the poll or am I classified as an atheist?

 

[blackheart]

After reading through 5 pages of this, I've come to the conclusion that diablodelmar is a more comical version of the other unnamed fundamentalist poster.

To note, the poll options really don't correspond to the OP's stance because the first option talks about more than one god.

 

[warpus]

Just a question, diablodelmar.

I'm Buddhist and don't believe in the Christian god. Where's my option in the poll or am I classified as an atheist?

If you don't believe in a deity (or deities) then you're atheist or agnostic, even if you're religious.

 

[Birdjaguar]

It is way too early to be this far into such a discussion. Time for coffee and breakfast. BTW, God alone is and whether or not one believes is pretty irrelevant. It is more important to be kind.

 

[North King]

You are an Atheist mate! Take it from me.

You are wrong. I am an agnostic. I do not believe that there is no God. I do not believe that there is a God. I simply do not believe one way or another about God; there is no proof either way. Thus, I am not atheist, nor religious, thus your poll fails to include me.

Sorry.

 

[Bluemofia]

I don't believe in God because of the impossibility to prove/disprove a certain God. I can easily state that, quoting Vbraun, that the universe and all of it's entity was created in a supernatural toilet flush, and you can not possibly disprove that.

Also, most people trying to convert me to Christianity use the argument that:

God does not exist
Athiests and Chirstians lose.

God exists
Athiests lose, and Christians win.

But, if God exists (not in the form that Christians want), but prefer people to believe in no God, over worshiping a false God (Christianity), then Christians lose, Athiests win.

It's not just Christianity or Athieism, but it can be Christianity, Atheism, Islam, Hinduism, Bhuddism, Indiginous Minor Religions, Greek Polytheism, Judaism, Scientology, Vbraun's Toilet Flushism, Alien Religions, or even that no one in the universe has gotten the correct religion.

 

[diablodelmar]

Just a question, diablodelmar.

I'm Buddhist and don't believe in the Christian god. Where's my option in the poll or am I classified as an atheist?

you can post under the first option.

 

[diablodelmar]

After reading through 5 pages of this, I've come to the conclusion that diablodelmar is a more comical version of the other unnamed fundamentalist poster.

gee thanks

 

[blackheart]

you can post under the first option.

Except Buddha said there wasn't a God.