Election 2024 Part III: Out with the old!

Who do you think will win in November?


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Amalgaming a wide array of nuances under the most emotionnally-charged denomination in order to attempt to coerce behaviour is not a bug, it's a feature. No point to wonder if the language is at fault when the manipulation is deliberate.

Funny thing is that I remember trying to use more precise terms and you started griping about how these terms new to you were sinister social engineering, and absolutely refusing to offer any better terms of your own.

Pick one or put the work in yourself.
 
I saw the Teamsters' Union president on CNN earlier. Evidently more than half of union members favor Trump. Their biggest grievance appears to be the railroad strike a few hears ago where the feds stepped in to mediate an agreement instead of just letting the strikes play out. It's a head scratcher -- the Biden/Harris administration was the most pro union administration in decades while Trump favors firing striking workers and busting unions.
 
I saw the Teamsters' Union president on CNN earlier. Evidently more than half of union members favor Trump. Their biggest grievance appears to be the railroad strike a few hears ago where the feds stepped in to mediate an agreement instead of just letting the strikes play out. It's a head scratcher -- the Biden/Harris administration was the most pro union administration in decades while Trump favors firing striking workers and busting unions.
It's no great mystery that supposed ultra capitalist Donald Trump is in favor of tariffs designed to protect domestic manufacturing. I think the support for him by labor unions (but not AFSCME) would be obvious.
 
It is a weird announcement: more than half of our members support Trump, but we as an organization are not supporting Trump.

Read into that whatever you will. Leadership knows better but doesn't want to override majority opinion, I guess.
 
Kamala Harris' 1st (and last?) interview with the media has finally dropped.

Nope, I was wrong :o

She did another solo interview Friday, September 13th 2024.
Wearing Converse Chuck Taylor shoes? :love:


It was on the local ABC news station in Philadelphia, the largest city in Pennsylvania. (6th largest city in USA)
Pennsylvania is the key swing state this election :)

Then another one on Tuesday, September 17th 2024 with the National Association of Black Journalists event in Philadelphia.

 
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I only watched this:


Seems to be what was expected. At first glance it doesn't look very different in tone, dynamic and moments to the Trump-Clinton debate. I assume there won't be another debate, though 'of course' both sides want it.

For the truly curious, here is the full debate between Kamala and Trump.


The debate also occurred in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on Tuesday September 10th.

Trump's 1st assassination attempt was also in Pennsylvania where he was campaigning.

I'm getting sick of Pennsylvania.
There are other states, we matter too :cry:
 

Trump-backed governor candidate denies 'black Nazi' post​

A Republican candidate for governor in North Carolina has insisted he will not exit the race amid a report that he made controversial comments on a porn website more than a decade ago.
Mark Robinson characterised the CNN report, which alleged that he had referred to himself as a "black Nazi" on an adult forum, as "salacious tabloid lies".
He has been under pressure from state Republicans and members of Donald Trump's campaign team to quit the race, according to anonymous sources quoted by the Carolina Journal newspaper.
Kamala Harris, a Democrat, is hoping to wrest the potentially pivotal swing state from Trump, a Republican, in November's White House election.

Robinson, 56, is a former furniture manufacturer who was elected to be the state's first black lieutenant governor in 2020.
He won the gubernatorial nomination in March this year after receiving an endorsement from Trump, who called him "Martin Luther King on steroids".
According to the CNN report on Thursday, Robinson used to visit a porn website from 2008-12 called Nude Africa, with the username "minisoldr".
"I like watching tranny on girl porn... It takes the man out while leaving the man in!" minisoldr commented, according to CNN.
"And yeah I’m a 'perv' too!"
The BBC has not verified the CNN report.
In 2021, Robinson refused to apologise after he was criticised for saying that children in schools should not be learning about "transgenderism, homosexuality, any of that filth".
In a video posted to X, formerly Twitter, on Thursday, as the CNN story was being published, he denied wrongdoing.
"Let me reassure you, the things you will see in that story, those are not the words of Mark Robinson," he said.
"We are staying in this race. We are in it to win it."
He said he was the victim of a "high-tech lynching" by his white Democratic opponent, Josh Stein.
Opinion polls already suggest Stein, a Harvard-educated lawyer who is currently North Carolina's attorney general, has a firm lead in the race.
The deadline for withdrawing from the gubernatorial contest is Thursday evening as postal ballots go into the mail on Friday. Early voting in the state begins in less than a month.
Recent polling in North Carolina shows Harris and Trump effectively tied among likely voters.
The Tar Heel State has been a Republican stronghold, with only one Democratic presidential nominee winning there in the last 20-plus years.
Trump narrowly beat Joe Biden in North Carolina four years ago by less than 2%.
Democrats have campaigned heavily in the state this election season.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yjgqxl00xo
 
Teamsters lack of endorsement isn't a complete surprise. I had feared they'd endorse Trump after the convention.
It's no great mystery that supposed ultra capitalist Donald Trump is in favor of tariffs designed to protect domestic manufacturing. I think the support for him by labor unions (but not AFSCME) would be obvious.
I think the shift right amongst American workers is more about culture, honestly. Some of things I heard on a factory floor shocked me, and I'm not easily shocked.

Much different set of sensibilities.
 

Trump-backed governor candidate denies 'black Nazi' post​

A Republican candidate for governor in North Carolina has insisted he will not exit the race amid a report that he made controversial comments on a porn website more than a decade ago.
Mark Robinson characterised the CNN report, which alleged that he had referred to himself as a "black Nazi" on an adult forum, as "salacious tabloid lies".
He has been under pressure from state Republicans and members of Donald Trump's campaign team to quit the race, according to anonymous sources quoted by the Carolina Journal newspaper.
Kamala Harris, a Democrat, is hoping to wrest the potentially pivotal swing state from Trump, a Republican, in November's White House election.

Robinson, 56, is a former furniture manufacturer who was elected to be the state's first black lieutenant governor in 2020.
He won the gubernatorial nomination in March this year after receiving an endorsement from Trump, who called him "Martin Luther King on steroids".
According to the CNN report on Thursday, Robinson used to visit a porn website from 2008-12 called Nude Africa, with the username "minisoldr".
"I like watching tranny on girl porn... It takes the man out while leaving the man in!" minisoldr commented, according to CNN.
"And yeah I’m a 'perv' too!"
The BBC has not verified the CNN report.
In 2021, Robinson refused to apologise after he was criticised for saying that children in schools should not be learning about "transgenderism, homosexuality, any of that filth".
In a video posted to X, formerly Twitter, on Thursday, as the CNN story was being published, he denied wrongdoing.
"Let me reassure you, the things you will see in that story, those are not the words of Mark Robinson," he said.
"We are staying in this race. We are in it to win it."
He said he was the victim of a "high-tech lynching" by his white Democratic opponent, Josh Stein.
Opinion polls already suggest Stein, a Harvard-educated lawyer who is currently North Carolina's attorney general, has a firm lead in the race.
The deadline for withdrawing from the gubernatorial contest is Thursday evening as postal ballots go into the mail on Friday. Early voting in the state begins in less than a month.
Recent polling in North Carolina shows Harris and Trump effectively tied among likely voters.
The Tar Heel State has been a Republican stronghold, with only one Democratic presidential nominee winning there in the last 20-plus years.
Trump narrowly beat Joe Biden in North Carolina four years ago by less than 2%.
Democrats have campaigned heavily in the state this election season.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yjgqxl00xo
Not even slightly surprised this is what the GOP put up. When the GOP sends us it's people, they're not sending us their best!
 
Teamsters lack of endorsement isn't a complete surprise. I had feared they'd endorse Trump after the convention.

I think the shift right amongst American workers is more about culture, honestly. Some of things I heard on a factory floor shocked me, and I'm not easily shocked.

Much different set of sensibilities.

Here it's at Port, construction workers, trades, things like that.
 
If immigrants are so bad, why do Trump and Vance keep marrying them?
Bad girls are the best girls?

Or, maybe, corruptio optima pessima?
 
I'm getting sick of Pennsylvania.
There are other states, we matter too :cry:

The only way to leave the endless cycle of a small number of swing states deciding the US election outcome every 4th year, is to abolish the electoral college and introduce true Democracy, where every single vote counts no matter the state. ;)
 
I like her, seriously, she seems to have both feet planted on the ground and a functioning mind.

Kamala Harris Says Anyone Who Breaks Into Her House Is ‘Getting Shot’​

Vice President Kamala Harris defended her gun ownership and said she would use a firearm to protect her home in a conversation with Oprah Winfrey on Thursday night.
Harris, the Democratic presidential nominee, appeared at an event called Unite for America in Michigan, where she spoke with Winfrey about a slate of policy issues, including immigration, access to reproductive health care and her support for commonsense gun reform. During a candid moment, Winfrey asked Harris about her remarks during the debate last week against Donald Trump when she confirmed she is a gun owner.
“I’m a gun owner; Tim Walz is a gun owner,” Harris said.
“I did not know that,” Winfrey replied.

“If somebody breaks into my house, they’re getting shot,” Harris added. “Probably should not have said that. But my staff will deal with that later.”
Her remarks came after a segment featuring families affected by gun violence and school shootings. The vice president said she could be both a gun owner who supports the Second Amendment as well as a politician calling for gun law reforms.
“Look, I think for far too long on the issue of gun violence, some people have been pushing a really false choice to suggest you’re either in favor of the Second Amendment or you want to take everyone’s guns away,” Harris said. “I’m in favor of the Second Amendment, and I’m in favor of assault weapons bans, universal background checks, red flag laws. And these are just common sense.”
The Harris campaign did not immediately respond to questions about the vice president’s comments or how long she has been a gun owner. Reuters noted she said she was a skilled shooter during an interview with Politico in 2015. She added at the time she had shot a gun “many times.”
She also told reporters in 2019 that she owned a gun.
“I own a gun for probably the reason a lot of people do — for personal safety,” she said at the time. “I was a career prosecutor.”
 
I would imagine many if not most dem politicians are gun owners. Particularly after Paul Pelosi. Lotta crazy people out there.
 
I just noticed that the poll for this thread doesn't close until November 24th.

So I'm going to wait on casting my vote. :D

Just kidding. Harris is going to win.
 
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