Emp01 - Rise and Rule AWE

[PaGe]

Preturn: little MM
Turn 1: worker roads, Settler-treck moved on hill, rest moved into cities to heal and protect.
IBT: Russia comes with 3 archers from the south of Utica.
Turn2: found Hamburg, moved 3 cats, 2 TG, 1 Champ on hill next to russians. There is a highway!
IBT: Russia doesn't attack, Berlin: cat->champ, Leipzig: cat->monument
Turn3: all 3 cats hit, the champ kills 1 Archer, 1 TG moved on mountain to cover it, another TG moved to the cats. MM
IBT: carthagian archer appears, Dyn->bronze, Anarchry (4R)
Turn4: MM, 2 cats hit russian archer, champs finish them ->Elite champ+slave, TG+1cat back in Utica
IBT: cart. archer comes nearer, Utica still revolted
Turn5: 2cats hit archer, champ kills him
IBT: Leipzig riots
Turn6: units back in town or heal,
IBT:Russians asked, refused
Turn7: Set sliders for monarchy, nothing else.

Sorry, my MM wasn't good in anarchy.
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I decided to settle on the hill, cause of the boost/defense and the a 4 tile distance. We can build a city later in the center of our cities. Berlin doesn't need the lower 3 tiles to grow to size 15!

Empiremaker, you can still move all units for your offense, but be careful of the russians! They can use the highway.
Next turn anarchy ends! Leizpzig should build a monument. Perhaps that's enough to get the silver.

 

[Empiremaker]

I got it.

I don't think Leipzig need a monument, since it would take 100 cp to get the silver.

 

[PaGe]

I think 10 cp would be enough, because of the connection with the culture from the rest of our cities

 

[Empiremaker]

Turn 0 (1000 BC): Switch research to Philosophy

IBT- Archer comes out of Carthage

1- Monarchy established, Philosophy in 12. MM.

IBT - Archer moves towards Utica

2- Nothing exciting

IBT- 2 archers threatening Utica

3- Meet Mongols, Declare.

Kill the 2 Carthaginian archers. (philo in 7)

IBT- ZZZ

4- Kill Mongolian archer, get a slave.

IBT -Utica expands

5- Lux tax to 10%.

IBT- See a Carthaginian archer E of Carthage coming from the north- Do they have another city up there?

6- zzz

IBT -Berlin Riots, Utica produces a catapult-> Catapult

7- Prepare to kill archer if it moves onto camels

IBT- Berlin produces a champion, Hamburg Cat-> cat

8- zzz

IBT- See Russian archer.
Get philo first, take Classical Education (most expensive tech) start on aristocracy. I want to be able to build TG longer since they have no maintenance. Aristocracy also allows FP to be built.

Leipzig completes monument.

9- Lose elite Champ attacking carthaginian archer, but get a slave

IBT- Berlin: Champ-> Forge

10- Nothing exciting

Notes to next player (Elephtantium) move attack force in Utica to the camels(Everybody except the TG). Move to the tile NE of carthage.

Utica has 8 cats and 4 champs- so our assault on carthage will contain 8 cats, 6 champs, and 1 TG.

Emp01 750 BC

 

[Elephantium]

Got it.

BTW, why do you zip the save file?

 

[Elephantium]

Pre-flight:

Everything looks good to me! I move a few troops towards Carthage.

IBT:

Carthage wants to talk. Maybe later.
Russia moves her Archer onto the mountain near Utica.

Turn 1 (730 BC):

More troop movements. I use a stray Catapult to bombard the Archer near Utica.

IBT:

A contingent of Mongolian Spears enters Utica's borders. Another guest for the party!

Turn 2 (710 BC):

Our troops near the outskirts of Carthage. Uh-oh, his defenders are led by Numidian Spearmen. Getting through them is going to be tough.

IBT:

Russian Archer > our Champion. Sigh.
Mongolians stop next to our Workers. Time to skedaddle!

Turn 3 (690 BC):

Bombardment begins at Carthage. Looks like they have two defenders. We drop them to 3 and 2 hp respectively; I'm going to hold out another turn or two before attacking - I want them redlined before sacrificing Champions against them.

IBT:

Zzz..

Turn 4 (670 BC):

Carthage sends out an African Archer. I redline it with cat fire, then lose a Champion before killing it.

IBT:

Utica riots. Oops, they grew last turn. I'm way too used to relying on the governor. I reassign workers to restore productivity.
Hamburg: Cat->Champ (we desperately need a few more)

Turn 5 (670 BC):

Bombardment of Carthage continues. We might attack next turn.
Sci slider to 30%, Aristocracy still in 1.

IBT:

Carthage sends out another archer
Mongols pillage our Camels.
Aristocracy->Boat Building (cheap tech - 1 turn, plus, it allows improved exploration soon)
Berlin: Forge->Champ
Leipzig: Cat->Champ
Our source of Incense is gone!

Turn 5 (630 BC):

Bombardment has a few failures. I need all cats to succeed vs. the Carthaginian defenders to feel confident about our attack, so we wait.

IBT:

Boat Building->Mysticism in 4
Leipzig riots. Ugh. We adjust workers.
Utica: Cat->Champ

Turn 6 (610 BC):

Bombardment doesn't go well. Wait another turn.

IBT:

Mongols pillage another road near Utica. In hindsight, I should have called off the attack vs. Carthage to deal with intruders.
Berlin: Champ->Champ
Leipzig starves and grows its culture borders, we now have Silver!

Turn 7 (590 BC):

Worst bombardment ever - six failures! This invasion stinks. The troops want a new general.
We bombard the Mongols near Utica and fail to bombard the Russians approaching Leipzig.

IBT:

Russians attack Leipzig. Our TG goes elite!
The second archer pillages the road to the silver. Jerks.
Hamburg: Champ->Champ

Turn 8 (570 BC):

We bombard and kill the Russian Archer pillaging our roads near Leipzig. The Champ promotes to elite out of the bargain.
MM a bit - Mysticism in 1 turn, +1gpt instead of -1.

IBT:

Russians land an Archer near Leipzig.
Foes approach Utica from multiple directions!
Mysticism->Mythology (6)
Berlin: Champ->Champ
Sioux complete The Hanging Gardens.

Turn 9 (550 BC):

I bombard the Russian Archer near Leipzig and kill it with a new Champ out of Berlin.

IBT:

Carthage loses an Archer to our TG at Utica, but he redlines us in the process. A Mongolian archer moves in for the kill and captures a Catapult along with Utica
Berlin riots. Stupid loss of Utica and the culture borders needed to control the Silver.
Hamburg riots, too.

Turn 10 (530 BC):

I call off the attack on Carthage and move troops back towards Utica.
Sci slider to 0 to avoid losing gold.

Post-op:

I should have watched the cities more carefully to prevent rioting. I should also have avoided exposing that first Champion to the Russian archer. Most importantly, I should have moved our troops back from Carthage once I spotted Mongolians invading our territory!

 

[Greebley]

Ok, I got it.

 

[PaGe]

I'm surprised that we finished Philo first. I thought it is impossible. Well done Empiremaker. Classical education was good, if we want the go for GL. But after that I would have choosen bronze, cause we need a better defense or masses of cats in every city. And our next offensive unit is the sword - as I mentioned above - so we need bronze.
The attack on Carthage wasn't lucky. Every capitol has a barack, so the units heal faster than your cats can bomb them done. Attacking the first time when all cats hit, would have been the best. But the attack came to late either, cause the numerics are really tough.
The appearance of so many enemies at Utica during our offense was bad luck.

What are we doing now?
We need Utica for silver. That should be no problem for our Carthage-stack. We should research on bronze and perhaps build walls in Utica then. Next we must connect the Iron with a colony, which must be guarded.

 

[Elephantium]

I think if I'd had 2 or 3 more Champions, I could have taken Carthage. I couldn't seem to get the Carthaginian defenders below 3hp though, and that would have been suicide for my attack (I figured 3 Champs per defender with the defenders at 3hp, and the cat bombardment was divvied up between two defenders).

 

[Greebley]

Preturn:
For number of turns the year should end in 50 (and sometimes 00) until 1750 AD. This is the easiest way to know how many turns to play. For example, 530 BC will not be right - an extra turn was played - 550BC was correct. I will play 9 turns to even it out.

I raise the Lux rate to 30%. I often find it better to raise Lux than to hire taxmen - especially in the capitol. We also have a lot of money in the bank. I raise science to 30% as well. This puts us at negative money, but we have a decent amount saved (178) to allow us to do this.

IBT: A chariot attacks our Champion and kills it. Hamburg could be in real trouble.
We really shouldn't leave cities undefended in AW. I also think we stretched the attack a bit too much and should have kept more units home. Then we wouldn't have had the Utica issue.

510 BC: We retreat the Chariot with our Champ - fortunately into the forest. Otherwise we would have lost Hambug.

490 BC: Our attack force is back near Utica.

470 BC: Take back Utica, but it costs us 4 Champions to do so (bad RNG + def 3 units).

IBT: Carthage landing of a single Archer.

450 BC: Healing and building up forces for another attempt on Carthage.

430 BC: It still takes us 2 Champs to kill the Archer. Start Bronzeworking for the better defense.

410 BC: Bombard and kill an Archer near Utica.

390 BC: Another Chariot

IBT: Kills our Tribal Guard. RNG has been really lousy this turn.

370 BC: Kill the Chariot.

IBT: Another Archer near Utica appears.

350 BC:

Notes:
We are going after construction for Mining.

After next turn we will have 15 Catapults. That should hopefully allow us to take the city with Champs.

The capitol can build Spearmen in 2 turns. Keep it MMed to 15 shields so it can build one for every city. This will help hold them.

We are short of defenders for Utica. I would send the first Spearman there and then perhaps we can start the advance on Carthage.

One real reason for going for the more expensive swords is that lots of Champs costs us lots of gold. We can't run a deficit forever and we don't want to turn off science.

More cities will help the gold problem for unit costs. I am building a Pioneer. This could also be a 16th Cat if we prefer.

I stopped the capitol from growing as that would raise Lux which we can't really afford. We can grow again if the Captiol gets another defender.

 

[Empiremaker]

I would build a city by the dyes, but would be hard to defend from Mongolian attacks.

PaGe you're up.

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Elephantium

 

[PaGe]

Preturn: a bit MM
IBT: carthagian archer came to Utica, Utica: cat->wiseman, Leipzig: cat->cat
Turn1: 3 cats hit archer, champ kills him.
IBT: nothing beside Berlin spear->spear
Turn2: spear & cats moving to Utica
IBT: Russian galley apeared. Not good.
Turn3: spear holds between Berlin and Leipzig, offensive stack now complete, set science to 50%
IBT: galley moved further, archer enters our territory, const->iron working, Berlin: spear->spear, Leipzig cat->?, Hamburg: Pioneer->wiseman
Turn4: spear towards Utica, the offense starts, moving TG out of Hamburg to explore the NW. There is another ressource of iron, but no good place for our pioneer, pioneer moving towards Leipzig, science back to 40%
IBT: damn, the galley unloaded a charriot, another one appeared by Utica
Turn5: Offensive stack moved back to recapture Utica, cause we will loose it, Cat from Leipzig towards Berlin, spear from Hamburg moving back.
IBT: The champ killed the archer, but looses against the chariot, we lost Utica, Berlin spear->spear, Leipzig riots cause the russian galley stoped at our high commerce field.
Turn6: Berlin: cat hit chariot, champ gets him down to 1HP, spear finishes him; Utica: 4 cats steal 3HP, Champ recaptured Utica, building walls now, rest of the stack waits.
IBT: carthagian archer appeared (towards Hamburg?)
Turn7: Stack moving towards Carthage, Pioneer save in Leipzig, Spear from Berlin on the way to Utica.
IBT: archer moves towards Utica, another russian chariot appears.
Turn8: Hoping Utica holds now, so the stack moved further towards Carthage. Silver-champ moving towards Utica.
IBT: Utica defends against chariot, another russian galley appears, carthagian archer moved on hills, Lhasa (Tibet) has completed the Great Wall
Turn9: Stack moved NE from Carthage (wanted to move on the mountain, but this would take one turn more). A reg. Mongol-Champ is there.
IBT: carthagian archer attacks and looses against spear, Mongol-champ passes our stack and was hit. The Mongols and Carthagians have a right of passage!
Turn10: cats fire on Carthage (8 hit, 4 failed): defender both down at 1HP, Champ kills one and makes a slave, second champ attacks and looses, unfortunately the numeric is promoted, has 3 HP now. Stopped offense on Carthage, wanted to take out the 2HP Mongol-Champ. But he doesn't want to die at the first attack . The second one finishes him and is promoted to Elite and gets a slave. Both slaves moving to the camels of Utica.

I've changed the wall in Utica to wiseman cause the spot at the dyes should be the next settling point and then Utica isn't the point of action. Leipzig now builds a forge. After captering Carthage we should move a stack of 2 or 3 spears and a few cats with the settler to the dyes. And we must explore our surrounding land to find good settling points. I was a bit unlucky not to know what is arround us. Perhaps there are horses, which we really need.

 

[Empiremaker]

i got it.

I'll see what I can do to bring Carthage under the benevolent rule of me.

 

[PaGe]

Just do it. I think the galley will unload a chariot NE of berlin. Because of this I moved the cat towards Berlin.

 

[Empiremaker]

Pre Turn (0)- Hit enter.

IBT -TG and warrior pair appear 2S of Utica.

Hamburg completes wiseman-> Cat.

1 11/15 hit. 2 Numidians left in carthage.

I attack.

Bad RNG luck, I lose 4 champs, one of which elite. I felt that this was the best turn to attack before swords, since there was only 1 unfortified Numdian, and 1 fortified.

I change Utica to Worker Housing

I’m sending the slaves to connect the iron.

IW in 1

IBT See Russian Chariot

IW comes in, start on military training (Barracks)

Berlin Spear-> Spear

Leipzig- Harbor. Why is a settler fortified in Leipzig?

2- Start retreat from Cartage. Waiting for swords.

Reduce science to 20%, Military Training in 24

Income situation looks bad.

IBT- Russian warrior attacks Utica and dies.

3- Berlin to academy. Need to reduce costs.

Pioneer moves to BG next to dies along river.

we need money bad

Prepare to join native worker in Berlin to reduce unit costs.

IBT- See second russian chariot.

4- Leipzig Harbor- Wealth, we get +1 Gpt now, but I joined 2 workers to Berlin. We will get more unit support when we found the next city.

I switch Utica to forge to delay the -1 gpt. WE NEED CASH.

I switch Berlin to School of Scribes.

IBT- Russian chariot dies on Utica.

Berlin School of Scribes to wealth. (We’re at +5 now)

5- Leipzig- School of Scribes. We have enough spears for now, and unit costs are killing us.

IBT- Russian spear moves towards camels.

6- zzz

IBT- Chariot appears on city site. Champ dies trying to kill it. Wait a turn.

7- Champ kills Russian TG. Cover with spear.

IBT- Utica completes forge, Leipzig completes School of Scribes. Hamburg- Cat-monument.

8- Kill offending chariot with TG. Lose champ against other chariot.

IBT Lose TG to chariot. Tibet completes slave trade.

9- Bring in Catapult stack to eliminate chariot and to protect new city. TG in Hamburg moves towards iron for protection duty.

IBT- Chariot fortifies.

10- WHAT? Slaves can’t build colony? Or can colonies by built on tundra at all.

Hamburg-> pioneer. When complete move it 1 SE of iron near Carthage’s territory.

Road towards the iron.

Emp 01 50AD

 

[PaGe]

No, slaves cannot build colonies, only native workers. Have I fortified the settler? Sorry. The problem was, that we haven't enough defenders for it. At least 2 spears (perhaps a champ) and one or two cats will be needed.
I completely forgot to look at the money. Cause I normally play no AW and then have no problem with it.
When I now see your unluck at Carthage, I think, I should have attack them at my turn. 3HP numeric against 3 champs left could have been the better chance. But I hate loosing units and haven't thought that they build another numeric in time. Else the cats could have bombed him down on 1HP.

 

[Elephantium]

Got it. Hopefully I'll have better luck this time.

So, what should I do? I have a rough idea to build some units and hopefully take Carthage, plus found a city near the dyes south of Utica.

Anything else?

 

[PaGe]

I opened the save and saw that Berlin doesn't have a shrine. I would build it because then we can put down the lux slider. With a bit of starving it should be ready in 2R.
The same I would do in Leipzig after the academy. Cause this will be the next city, which needs entertaining.
I don't know, if we wanna connect the left iron with the city or the upper iron with a worker-colony. If last one, we must build a worker.

Building another Pioneer would be good. And place it between our actual 4 cities. So we have more unit support and have not to defend it with many units. A TG from somewhere should be enough.

And perhaps a bit of exploring would be good. I think the TG in Utica can be used for it.

Another think. I wouldn't build a reg. champ in Utica but a vet. in Berlin. The chariot should be managed by a spear.

Next tech: trade? for bazaars.

 

[Greebley]

Did we get the Numidians down to 1 hp and still lose 4 champs? Or were they better off than that? Sounds like really bad RNG in any case. We are really having a lot more trouble with that city than we should be. Arg.

I agree we need to wait for swords at this point. The real problem is that the cats are using up a lot of our cash. More cities are equal to cash because they lower our unit expenses by 2. Back line cities could be useful, but make sure every city has at least one defender. Empty cities are only possible if in the middle of our empire and I don't think we have a middle yet.

 

[PaGe]

The numerics had 6 (vet) and 8 (elite) HP and if 11 cats hit, they both should have 2 HP left. But perhaps the vet was again promoted and gets more HPs. Anyway no good RNG.