Fox News makes an attack ad

[del62]

(I'm very aware what kind of 'news agency' Fox News is - but there are some people believing them, and those people should be protected from disinformation by forcing Fox to warn them their information isn't completely objective)

Perhaps all news organisationions should alert their viewers / readers that their information isn't completely objective, why just stop at fox.

And perhaps pigs will fly.

 

[mangxema]

I still don't consider that misleading. It is facts.

The two are not mutually exclusive. I for one prefer straightforward facts, especially from organizations purporting to be traffickers in them.

 

[cegman]

del62. I had to read your post twice then I realized that you had quite possibly the most effective part of that post in your signature.


All news people have a bias. This has been a fact longer than yellow journalism. This has been the fact before the American revolution. Any attempt to protect people would lead to other problems like news companies using the laws against each other or just the government doing it to agencies they don't like.

I know liberal news people that would swear themselves silly to say they are unbiased and believe it. I know conservative news people that would swear themselves silly to say they are unbiased and believe it. It is pretty hard to avoid personal bias.

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/05/30/video-foxs-four-years-of-hope-and-change/

 

[FriendlyFire]

This. This show is more like a Regis and Kathy Lee knockoff than a real news show. They often do a lot of tongue in cheek kind of stuff as well.

But lets see. Foxnews has a conservative spin. Imagine that.

I'm sure if they've violated some regulation or other over this, that we will hear about that as well. But if we dont.....

I miss Glenn Beck, I wish Fox would bring him back
Watching Glenn Beck on Fox news from "the outside" was awesome.

The problem with this kind of tongue in cheek stuff was the Fox viewers believed it to be actually news.

 

[GhostWriter16]

Linksys

Spoiler :

This morning on Fox & Friends, Fox News aired a straight-up, unadulterated four-minute attack ad mocking Obama's "Hope and Change" message and cataloguing the purported failures of his administration, complete with ominous music, depressing charts, and voiceover audio of Mitt Romney attacking him. Not someone else's ad, mind you—this was actually an in-house production of Fox News, involving weeks of work by a Fox staffer.

Are they even trying to seem fair anymore? I haven't been keeping up too often.

After seeing our latest thread on UHC, as well as what Obama said about freedom of religion, I don't even care about Obama anymore. I've mostly gone back into my old opinions on Obama, other than birtherism. Anyone sane would be attacking him left and right. He deserves no better.

Go Fox News!

 

[Mr. Dictator]

That would be boring...
My whole point to this thread was... No kidding.

That would be the same point to an MSNBC thread...

At least it wouldn't be another weak "other people do it too!" point there.

 

[kramerfan86]

Well, it's election season... I don't expect them to give Obama the benefit of the doubt even for a second. Who does?

I know MSNBC didn't with Bush... same difference.

Does MSNBC constantly make alleged "fair and balanced" status a central tag line for their network?

 

[del62]

del62. I had to read your post twice then I realized that you had quite possibly the most effective part of that post in your signature.

Thats probably because it was written by someone far more eloquant than I could ever be.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

After seeing our latest thread on UHC, as well as what Obama said about freedom of religion, I don't even care about Obama anymore. I've mostly gone back into my old opinions on Obama, other than birtherism. Anyone sane would be attacking him left and right. He deserves no better.

Go Fox News!

Anyone sane? How would you know?

 

[Leoreth]

Ghostwriter in election mode! Next months are going to be fun!

 

[Crezth]

After seeing our latest thread on UHC, as well as what Obama said about freedom of religion, I don't even care about Obama anymore. I've mostly gone back into my old opinions on Obama, other than birtherism. Anyone sane would be attacking him left and right. He deserves no better.

Go Fox News!

Yeah, I wouldn't expect Obama to play well with the theocratic crypto-fascist crowd.

 

[classical_hero]

Why hello there strawman Crezth.

 

[Crezth]

Guilty as charged.

 

[Arakhor]

Is that really the best you can do, CH? Just pointing out that something is a fallacy doesn't automatically render it false.

 

[BSmith1068]

I still don't consider that misleading. It is facts.
They are going to pick and choose the facts that support their cause... this is common knowledge. Still valid.

Concerning unemployment, which graph below looks better than the other? Or do they look the same to you?:

Both start and end in the same place. Same facts, so to speak. Yet each one tells a completely different story. Graph A shows ever increasing unemployment, with no end in sight. It would be logical to assume that unemployment would just keep rising in this scenario. Graph B shows a higher peak, but more importantly a reversal in the trend. Things are getting better, not worse and we have passed the worst of it.

Reality is that Graph B is what has happened with unemployment. This Ad would lead you to believe that Graph A is what happened. Completely and totally misleading, even though they share the same two facts (start and end).

If they pick and choose the facts that support Obama doing well (as the Obama campaign will do, ignoring the other facts that don't), well... they'd be campaigning for Obama.

They shouldn’t be campaigning for anyone! If it was Fox Political Opinion Network, then sure, have right at it. But it is not. It is Fox News Network. News organizations have no place in campaigning for any party, regardless of inherent bias of their programming.

2. I see why you don't like the job number but there are a few charts here on this site that show that Obama has had a slower recovery. Why isn't important it is the fact that he will be judged on. That is also one small part of the whole video.

Sure it is one small part. It just happens to be the one that stuck out at me after watching it once. There are tons of other misleading “facts” in this ad. I was just using this as an example.

Let me ask you guys another question: Do you think that the President of the United States has any influence over the short term (<3 years) price of oil?

If yes, in what ways has Obama acted that has resulted in an increase in oil prices?

If no, wouldn’t it be misleading to judge the President on this factor in an attack ad?

 

[cegman]

Thats probably because it was written by someone far more eloquant than I could ever be.

You and me both. If I added half the writing skills as this man to my skills I would have half the skills of this great writer.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Thats probably because it was written by someone far more eloquant than I could ever be.

It is also ironically someone who constantly warned about entities like Fox News for this very reason.

Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. George Orwell

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell

In our time political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible. George Orwell

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

You know what also had a lot of facts?

Loose change.
An inconvenient truth.
A funny thing happened on the way to the moon.
Fahrenheit 9/11.

 

[classical_hero]

Link to video.

 

[Ailedhoo]

I better warn thee all... News International is being charged in the UK with manipulating politicians, spying on citizens and generally trying to rule Britian. This will tell you about the investigation. As News International owns Fox...