Freed Somali pirates 'probably died' - Russian source

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Freed Somali pirates 'probably died' - Russian source

Ten suspected Somali pirates captured by the Russian navy last week may have perished after their release, a defence source in Moscow has told reporters.

Marines seized them during a dramatic operation to free a hijacked Russian oil tanker far from shore, killing an 11th suspect in the gun battle.


They were released in an inflatable boat without navigational equipment.


Within an hour, contact was lost with the boat's radio beacon, the defence source said.
"It seems that they all died," the unnamed source was quoted as saying by Russia's Interfax news agency.


Russia initially said the 10 pirates would be taken to Moscow to face criminal charges over the hijacking, but they were released instead because there were not sufficient legal grounds to detain them, the defence ministry in Moscow said.


The UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, to which Russia is a signatory, gives sovereign nations the right to seize and prosecute pirates.


Western officials were very surprised when the Russian authorities dropped plans to put the pirates on trial in Moscow, the BBC's Richard Galpin reports from Moscow.


Now there is even more surprise the pirates were set adrift in the Indian Ocean to make their own way home, he adds.


Unknown factors

The tanker, the Moscow University, was seized on 5 May some 350km (190 nautical miles) off the Yemeni island of Socotra as it sailed for China, carrying crude oil worth $50m (£33m).

Marines from the Russian warship Marshal Shaposhnikov stormed the ship the following day, freeing the 23 Russian crew members who had locked themselves in a safe room after disabling their ship.


Cdr John Harbour, spokesman for the EU naval force in Somalia, Navfor, said the Russian navy had been within its rights to release the suspects.


It was, he told the BBC News website, impossible to judge their situation without knowing the details of the boat - described as an inflatable by Russian sources - and the radio beacon they had been given.


It was quite likely the Russian ship lost radar contact with the boat after an hour, Cdr Harbour said, while the signal from the beacon would depend on the strength of its battery and whether or not it could be detected by satellite.


The Navfor spokesman suggested the loss of navigational equipment would not necessarily be critical if there was an experienced mariner among the 10 men on the boat.


Stressing that nothing could be said for sure without knowledge of the boat, the weather and other factors, he noted that pirates had been known to operate up to 1,200 nautical miles (2,200km) from the Somali coast.

Its interesting that they lacked the leagal grounds to detain them, but they can put them on an inflatable boat in the middle of the sea without any means to reach safety.

Did they break any laws by doing that?
If not, is that a good way to discourage Piracy?
 
Sounds like a good old fashioned marooning... Haven't we been doing that to pirates for hundreds of years?
 
Of course they probably died. These are Russian special forces we're talking about! They don't mess around!
 
I guess they didn't have a plank for the pirates to walk.
 
Without any details it's impossible to know for sure but from what I've read it sounds more or less cold blooded murder. I'm not a pirate advocate but generally I disapprove of murdering prisoners even if the act isn't done directly.
 
Surely it would not be murder to say you can come with us and face trial in russa, where the life expectancy is low, and multi drug resistant TB is rife and has the death penalty anyway, or you can go free in this boat. IF that is what they did, even if they knew they did not have much chance, I would not consider that murder.
 
Surely it would not be murder to say you can come with us and face trial in russa, where the life expectancy is low, and multi drug resistant TB is rife and has the death penalty anyway, or you can go free in this boat. IF that is what they did, even if they knew they did not have much chance, I would not consider that murder.

There are no death penalty in Russia (de-facto) and AFAIK those people declared themselves as hostages, captured by another group of pirates who managed to escape before assault. There were not enough evidences to send them to jail as crew members didn't see pirates from close distance and couldn't recognize anybody.
 
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Surely it would not be murder to say you can come with us and face trial in russa, where the life expectancy is low, and multi drug resistant TB is rife and has the death penalty anyway IF that is what they did, even if they knew they did not have much chance, I would not consider that murder.

What source are you reading that says that the prisoners were given a choice between trial in Russia or certain death on the ocean? And since when does Russia practice the death penalty?
 
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If they die, they die.

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This doesn't sit quite well with me, though I'm not sure they did anything wrong per se and it's hard to feel too sorry for pirates.
 
Sounds like a summary execution. And that doesn't sound like the right way to deal with them.
 
What source are you reading that says that the prisoners were given a choice between trial in Russia or certain death on the ocean? And since when does Russia practice the death penalty?

I have not read that "the prisoners were given a choice between trial in Russia or certain death on the ocean". Sorry, I should have made that clear. I also did not know russia had no death penalty, but that does not stop these pirates being told that it did. I am just saying that if they were given that choice then it would not be murder. If they were offered that choice, they may well have gone for it, esp. if it was explained to them in the correct way.
 
Did they specify if this inflatable boat was actually inflated?

I don't feel bad about this at all. If you make a living with violent crime, expect bad things to happen eventually.
 
Did they specify if this inflatable boat was actually inflated?
According to latest news, before releasing Somali pirates, Russian marines cut one leg and poke out one eye for each of them, to make them look more like pirates.
 
According to latest news, before releasing Somali pirates, Russian marines cut one leg and poke out one eye for each of them, to make them look more like pirates.
That's barbaric! They can't be real pirates without parrots! You deny them parrots?! Evil Russkies.
 
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