Ferocitus
Deity
No, I'm not justifying Chinese actions based on melting glaciers. I'm saying the Uyghurs are going to have to leave that region very shortly, whether they are forcibly removed or because of failing environmental conditions.You're playing the apologist of bad people doing bad actions, like those who did it for Stalin's show trials in the 1930s. And having to do it with bad excused because there are no good ones. The chinese are clearly in the wrong here.
"Xinjiang is doomed because glaciers", the why is China sending in more people, who just happen to be Han, to Xinjiang?
And now... cretinism? Really? Blame the victim already? "We're harming them for their own good"?
Xinjiang has always been there in Central Asia. It has no less Iodine now than it had 100 or 500 years ago. Its inhabitants, uneducated, superstitious or "cretin" as you may call them, lived there, reproduced there, and are human beings with a will of their own. If they don't want to be "uneducated", no one should force them to be. If they don't what to "move out" no one should force them to move out. As things stood until recently the area was inhabited by people who enjoyed living as they did and no one there was asking the chinese state to change things. At the most if there was an insurrection the chinese could fight the insurrection. But that's not what they're doing: they're trying to "sinicize "the region instead, by wiping out its population as a distinct one.
You excuses for chinese oppression there are the same kind of excuses that have been deployed for imperialism, colonialism and slavery in many places. They're abhorrent. It's true that most states have historically oppressed their own populations. That "education", sanitation, and many other modern things, together with the obligation to work for wages, have been forced upon people through state power. The outcome for later generations may be good (or not!) but the process of the people targeted is usually evil. Evil in one or many places does not excuse evil in other places. The history of the modern state everywhere is one of dragging people kicking and screaming, against their will, into "modernity". You can say "the chinese are doing no worse than the [whatever country]". But you cannot say "the chinese are doing good".
I'm presenting other factors for what is happening there - medical, cultural and political. If the Chinese wanted to exterminate Uyghurs they could just march the lot of them into their equivalent of Auschwitz. They are not doing that, and attempts at making their re-education camps identical to Nazi death camps is disingenuous at best.
"Cretinism" is the medical term used for about a century. That term was used, with scare quotes, by the American Academy of Pediatrics. If you have an issue with the term sned your stern letter to the editors of medical journals. BTW, Australian medicos renamed it Iodine Deficiency Disorder (IDD) because of the connotations.
As for my supporting "harming them for their own good"? How did you jump to that conclusion?
I was presenting a major factor that is working against Uyghurs having any chance of success in that region. If China uses IDD as their main excuse for re-educating Uyghurs, that's their business - I really don't care if they do or don't.
Whether you like it or not, the fact remains that if traditional Uyghurs outside of the major cities have problems stemming from IDD, they are not going to get employment in (primarily Han) Chinese run industries in that region.
LOLOLOL. Over the centuries they conquered territory and moved people out; they themselves were conquered; they joined with other "empires" when it suited them, or they were forced to.If they don't want to be "uneducated", no one should force them to be. If they don't what to "move out" no one should force them to move out.
They've played the war game for centuries themselves. They lost to the Communists in the civil war and now they're on the decline. Maybe they'll build up again and win next time, maybe they'll try to take Tibet again like they did less than a century ago, or maybe they'll just fade away.