General Politics Three: But what is left/right?
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GenMarshall
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The only Christians that are on the spotlight are the ones themselves displaying Christian Nationalist tenancies that want to break down Jefferson's Wall of keeping Church and State separate, dismantle the Constitution to remove the First Amendment and Article 6 Section 3 (No religious test shall ever be required as qualification to any office or public trust under the United States). I've mostly seen Christian Nationalist tenancies coming from the more fundamentalist sects within Protestantism.
I don't know how many times this has to be repeated, The United States of America is not a Christian Nation. We never were and per the US Constitution, never should be.
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Checking in after a while so only read a couple of posts.
I would say that hinges on how much servicing needs to be done as a percentage of federal outlays: the amount of debt servicing done during the 1980’s and 1990’s was greater than it is today. Is there any reason for bondholders to suspect we are in a worse position today than in the seventies when the interest rates were skyrocketing?
I suppose it depends on how you define a Christian nation. I don’t think the founders were explicit in it because it would likely would not have occurred to them that there would be large, franchised non-Christian minorities in the U.S.; that and the political status of state churches was far removed from what we have today in countries like England and Sweden. A “Christian nation” in their conception would be much different from ours.
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Yeah. I didn't post the article and now I can't find it. It was actually a video of a young lady freaking out. Bad form on my part and of course, no reason to interject it although it is a political trend.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
instead of
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Just the garden variety "freedom from religion" nonsense. Never mind.
GenMarshall
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You do know that the Creator can be applied to anyone's interpretation? A Pastafarian can interpret that as the Flying Spaghetti Monster endowing the people unalienable rights with it's noodley appendages.
Well, it's suppose to be freedom from religion. Secular government shouldn't favor one religion over another (and for that matter suppress a religion in a state with a government policy of state atheism).Just the garden variety "freedom from religion" nonsense. Never mind.
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And of isn't thereof, to boot.
Many religions have a "creator" entity and they often look and act very differently. That is even true among Christian sects.
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Can’t prove a negative, sure, but that doesn’t give credibility to the contradiction of facts.
Lawrence O'Donell on the topic of replacing Biden as the Democratic nominee (spoiler: He's against it) It's 27 mins...
However, It's pretty good and raises a lot of points that don't generally get discussed in the context of this particular issue (ie Biden stepping aside). The best point raised, is that the President's main role, ie., making decisions, all happens, by necessity, because of classified information, public perception, etc., out of public view, ie., in private. :
TL;DR - I got you covered, since as I said... its 27 mins... The most interesting point raised was about the money and restriction on campaign spending...
1. Its too late to switch candidates. Campaigns are 4 years long and we are in "the 4th quarter" of "the game" (an American football analogy).
2. Gavin Newsom polls worse against Trump than Biden or Harris, that's why Newsom isn't running.
3. The only way to switch is at the Democratic convention in August. It can't be done now.
4. Every time a switch is done at the convention it results in a loss.
5. The last time Democrats attempted a switch at the convention (1968) it was an unmitigated disaster that resulted in rioting, police brutality, national embarrassment and the Democrats lost the election.
6. Contested conventions get dragged out and the Israel/Palestine issue will look bad for Democrats at the convention the longer it gets dragged out.
7. MONEY!!! Beautiful (campaign) money!! Muahahahaha! By law, no prospective Democratic candidate has any... besides Biden and Harris. (On this point, O'Donnell does concede eventually, that Biden/Harris would likely relinquish their campaign funds to the DNC if they were ousted, thus undermining his entire, otherwise compelling argument about money.)
8. Numerology/Bad Omens.
9. Age doesn't matter, because the Presidency is about making decisions not speeches.
10. The media covers the "theatre" of the Presidency, ie., speeches and gaffes... not the substance, ie., consequential decision-making. Everyone who sees Biden behind the scenes knows that he excels at decision-making (in terms of "sharpness/awareness").
11. FDR was disabled in a wheelchair and still managed to be one of the best Presidents ever, through one of the most difficult times ever. So Biden seeming old/frail should not dissuade peoples' confidence in him.
12. Biden's strength as a POTUS does not and can not get camera-time, because it is not allowed. Jon Stewart's admonition "do we have film?" of Joe Biden being sharp in making decisions, can't be satisfied, because the decisions Joe Biden makes, by law/necessity, must be made privately, as they involve the most sensitive national information, and sensitive political information, that can't be revealed publicly, for various reasons, including political reasons.
However, It's pretty good and raises a lot of points that don't generally get discussed in the context of this particular issue (ie Biden stepping aside). The best point raised, is that the President's main role, ie., making decisions, all happens, by necessity, because of classified information, public perception, etc., out of public view, ie., in private. :
TL;DR - I got you covered, since as I said... its 27 mins... The most interesting point raised was about the money and restriction on campaign spending...
1. Its too late to switch candidates. Campaigns are 4 years long and we are in "the 4th quarter" of "the game" (an American football analogy).
2. Gavin Newsom polls worse against Trump than Biden or Harris, that's why Newsom isn't running.
3. The only way to switch is at the Democratic convention in August. It can't be done now.
4. Every time a switch is done at the convention it results in a loss.
5. The last time Democrats attempted a switch at the convention (1968) it was an unmitigated disaster that resulted in rioting, police brutality, national embarrassment and the Democrats lost the election.
6. Contested conventions get dragged out and the Israel/Palestine issue will look bad for Democrats at the convention the longer it gets dragged out.
7. MONEY!!! Beautiful (campaign) money!! Muahahahaha! By law, no prospective Democratic candidate has any... besides Biden and Harris. (On this point, O'Donnell does concede eventually, that Biden/Harris would likely relinquish their campaign funds to the DNC if they were ousted, thus undermining his entire, otherwise compelling argument about money.)
8. Numerology/Bad Omens.
9. Age doesn't matter, because the Presidency is about making decisions not speeches.
10. The media covers the "theatre" of the Presidency, ie., speeches and gaffes... not the substance, ie., consequential decision-making. Everyone who sees Biden behind the scenes knows that he excels at decision-making (in terms of "sharpness/awareness").
11. FDR was disabled in a wheelchair and still managed to be one of the best Presidents ever, through one of the most difficult times ever. So Biden seeming old/frail should not dissuade peoples' confidence in him.
12. Biden's strength as a POTUS does not and can not get camera-time, because it is not allowed. Jon Stewart's admonition "do we have film?" of Joe Biden being sharp in making decisions, can't be satisfied, because the decisions Joe Biden makes, by law/necessity, must be made privately, as they involve the most sensitive national information, and sensitive political information, that can't be revealed publicly, for various reasons, including political reasons.
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Focusing on this, since I have watched the Stewart clip and imo it is a good point brought up by JS, it doesn't follow that you can be "sharp" in classified meetings but come across as the opposite in public. He could have been sharp on non-classified stuff in public, just like he now isn't sharp about them in public
Unless he is fed a concoction that makes him sharp in private, but it has side-effects not to be seen by the hoi polloi - eg becoming greenskinned.
TLDR: not convincing to say "he is sharp when you don't see him".
So you (the royal you) should vote for Trump then?Focusing on this, since I have watched the Stewart clip and imo it is a good point brought up by JS, it doesn't follow that you can be "sharp" in classified meetings but come across as the opposite in public. He could have been sharp on non-classified stuff in public, just like he now isn't sharp about them in public
Unless he is fed a concoction that makes him sharp in private, but it has side-effects not to be seen by the hoi polloi - eg becoming greenskinned.
TLDR: not convincing to say "he is sharp when you don't see him".
(It is Jon Stewart afterall, amirite?
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He wasn't "attacked"... and O'Donnell is also "speaking the obvious", that the media doesn't and in many cases, can't televise the actual governing going on.
The convention is in Chicago this time around too... that's something else that came up in the video.
Klaus Hergersheimer
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if O'Donnel is postulating that Biden is somehow sharp as a tack in private but immediately wilts in front of the cameras and only looks like he's not mentally acute, I find that to be highly unlikely...
of course, his excuse is this lame "well no one gets to see that".
no that they're entitled to, but come on...
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