Stewart himself presented some of those attacks, at the start (first minutes) of ep2 of his show ^^
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Naturally, @Sommerswerd 's post has 12 points to make and you choose only one to attack ignoring all the rest acting as if you have some meaningful insight (but quoting Jon Stewart instead). Did you actually listen to the clip all the way through? It was an excellent commentary on presidential disability and campaign realities.Focusing on this, since I have watched the Stewart clip and imo it is a good point brought up by JS, it doesn't follow that you can be "sharp" in classified meetings but come across as the opposite in public. He could have been sharp on non-classified stuff in public, just like he now isn't sharp about them in public
Unless he is fed a concoction that makes him sharp in private, but it has side-effects not to be seen by the hoi polloi - eg becoming greenskinned.
TLDR: not convincing to say "he is sharp when you don't see him".
I guess you didn't listen to the commentary either. Is Biden too old to be a rousing and charismatic leader/President? Likely so. Has he been an effective president since 2021? Yes. Would I prefer someone younger? Yes. But as O'Donnell makes clear speeches do make a presidency.
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Well, let's wait until the SOTU and see how it looks then.
Lip sync time! AI for the win!
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Nobody is questioning Joe Biden's decision making. Didn't he decide that it was time to retire his dog after the mutt bit Secret Service agents 24 times?
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Biden’s dog Commander bit Secret Service agents at least 24 times, records show
The Secret Service said it had to “adjust” its operational tactics when the German shepherd was around, according to official documents.
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I skipped around a bit at first, I'm listening to most if it now.
I think whatever woes the Democratic party has in trying to replace him is brought about by an insistence that Biden remain president despite his cognitive decline, rather than some separate phenomenon of simply not being able to find alternatives.
This then goes into the second half where ODonnel says that despite not being a good speaker Biden still makes sound decisions. Okay. The problem is it's not only his speeches but his genuine demeanor which (I think at least) calls his overall fitness into question. And so, is that something a voter would want to see someone else precipitously deteriorate through?
One could say that yes, as long as he makes good decisions what does it matter?
but by that same token, if he's otherwise not fit, then who is it that voters will be choosing to be making those decisions? The people around him, I would imagine.
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Commander ChompersNobody is questioning Joe Biden's decision making. Didn't he decide that it was time to retire his dog after the mutt bit Secret Service agents 24 times?
Biden’s dog Commander bit Secret Service agents at least 24 times, records show
The Secret Service said it had to “adjust” its operational tactics when the German shepherd was around, according to official documents.
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But the voters will have no say in who is the power behind the throne.
Remember how Vlad Putin established himself during Boris Yeltsin' s second term.
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To be fair, I don't think anyone is ''pulling Biden's strings''; I just think he's being done a disservice by people propping him up because that's what they think that he wants, rather than what is good for the public service as a whole.
But I'd say that to anyone who's running for president when, in most other instances, they would be retired. That'd include anyone over 70-ish. So there's my bias.
But I'd say that to anyone who's running for president when, in most other instances, they would be retired. That'd include anyone over 70-ish. So there's my bias.
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I watched every second of Sir Lawrence's performance and man, there must be a lot of heat on Biden behind the scenes. If Lawrence wrote all that here on this forum, even given that most of the folks around here are liberal, y'all would pick it apart at the seams and expose it for what it was.
I think you meant "speeches don't make a presidency". One of O'Donnell's many, well made points, was that the media covers the race ("horserace" was how he put it), not the actual work/governing, and the speeches, press conferences and public appearances are the stuff that the media emphasizes (because since that is what they get to see/cover, it justifies their own relevance), but have very little to do with actual governance.
One line on that point that I liked, my 49ers fandom not withstanding... was "You can remember what Patrick Mahomes did on the field (in the Superbowl) but you can't remember one word of he speech (after winning the Superbowl)", the correct implication being, because the speech didn't matter much, only the actions on the field did.
As an aside, O'Donnell does manage to sneak in a version of "Don't Switch Horses Midstream", which is a classic, historic incumbent campaign message. I'll see if I can find it again... but it is a 27 min clip.
Anyway thanks for watching the video, I appreciate you taking the time to do so. I know it was really long. I thought it was a thoughtful piece and I wanted to share, but I did the bullet points for those who would otherwise ignore it because of the length.
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Good dogNobody is questioning Joe Biden's decision making. Didn't he decide that it was time to retire his dog after the mutt bit Secret Service agents 24 times?
Biden’s dog Commander bit Secret Service agents at least 24 times, records show
The Secret Service said it had to “adjust” its operational tactics when the German shepherd was around, according to official documents.
Commander is having none of it. Commander is a German Shepherd and he is representing his breed. Strangers around his Daddy... bite... loud noises around his Daddy.... bite... sudden, unannounced appearances of people around his Daddy... people appearing from secret rooms/passages around his Daddy... people he doesn't like/trust trying to get closer to his Daddy than him... people trying to separate him from his Daddy for photo ops and so on... bite, bite , bite...bite first and ask questions later.
Commander knows that he is a guard dog and that his Daddy is an important person and needs to be guarded... he takes his job seriously. The Secret Service is dealing with a dog who understandably views himself as the Captain of the Secret Service... because he has been guarding Biden before any of them... and anyone who is not on that page is getting bit, and bit again, until they get the message.
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Speeches certainly do make a presidency.
The president, for all his executive power, is first and foremost a cheerleader.
A fireside chat about the square deal we deserve can cause thousands of points of light to swarm, burning away infamy and darkness. For if we cannot conceive of liberty, we cannot hope to change anything. It's absence just leaves us asking what our country can do for us.
They're just not enough, alone, true. Neville's resignation is quite good.
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I think you may be observing some of what can be called psychomotor activity. Everyone sees it...
Counselor, my next witness is a dog trainer that stipulates that commander acted that way because his alpha....is not in charge....
EDIT: I would also need to question alpha's mate, as to possible inappropriate advances of the confused pupster...yes, both of them
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Actually, Commander is still a pup and wasn't born until after Biden was CIC. Biden's previous dog Major was retired...wait for it...for biting. The older dog Champ died. Biden doesn't have the time and perhaps the presence to handle a young German shepherd. A dog is not a prop.
We had Rottweilers for years but gave it up when our last two passed. Being mid-sixties we have to consider what happens to dogs that outlive us plus, you need to have the energy and mobility to work and play with a dog to ensure a proper relationship. If the owner is not assertive (and present) a dog's nature will assert itself and with large dogs this can be a problem. What happened with Commander, 24 bites, was purely irresponsible. But who is going to tell the POTUS what to do?
We had Rottweilers for years but gave it up when our last two passed. Being mid-sixties we have to consider what happens to dogs that outlive us plus, you need to have the energy and mobility to work and play with a dog to ensure a proper relationship. If the owner is not assertive (and present) a dog's nature will assert itself and with large dogs this can be a problem. What happened with Commander, 24 bites, was purely irresponsible. But who is going to tell the POTUS what to do?
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..but please don't underestimate socialization....For the most part, people that try to keep an inside border collie are mean. For the most part, people with a big aggressive dogs are mean. Get a proper mutt, like a real American.
Not some inbred purebred euro-wannabe noble.
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