[RD] George Floyd and protesting while black

[cardgame]

Also "Marx was a racist" seems to be a very modern smear against him. The most famous is that he called Lassalle a 'Jewish N-' either it was 'Negro' in their parlance or the racist '-R' parlance.

He wrote 'On the Jewish Question' because he was a Ethnic Jew living at the time and struggling with that in the question of Secularism and religiosity and emancipation. Marx acknowledged Slavery as an economic mechanism, but one that eventually does run its course, and this is the guy who eventually told Abraham Lincoln 'good job' for emancipation twenty years after his texts on Slavery. Also he coined this: "as the American War of Independence initiated a new era of ascendancy for the middle class, so the American Antislavery War will do for the working classes." which is a helluva good title for the ACW.

It's a bit of a reach compared to folk like literal Confederate Generals and Raiders.

But... muh both sides?!

 

[Berzerker]

They should remove the statues of Confederate generals and flags and rename bases.

 

[Rashiminos]

They're demoing the "abolish the police" idea in Atlanta tonight. The night shift in a number of zones has walked off the job and neighboring jurisdictions are refusing calls for assistance.

 

[Arwon]

Speaking as an American, tearing confederate statues down doesn’t feel like an assault on my heritage. Tearing down statues of the founding fathers does.

On the other hand, you'd think Native Americans may have some views about how to memorialise some of the big political and military figures from this era.

 

[Bugfatty300]

They're demoing the "abolish the police" idea in Atlanta tonight. The night shift in a number of zones has walked off the job and neighboring jurisdictions are refusing calls for assistance.

Send in the strike busters.

 

[Takhisis]

Speaking as an American, tearing confederate statues down doesn’t feel like an assault on my heritage. Tearing down statues of the founding fathers does.

Ah, but you're not an 'Murican-Murican. You're an Middleesaern-'Murican.

 

[caketastydelish]

My mother is white. Either way, I was born and raised in this country, haven’t lived anywhere else. I’m as American as anyone else who can say the same.

 

[bernie14]

I wasn't even born here and I'm as Murican as they come

 

[Zardnaar]

I wasn't even born here and I'm as Murican as they come

Hit your head a few times on concrete?

 

[bernie14]

Can't remember

 

[Moriarte]

Speaking as an American, tearing confederate statues down doesn’t feel like an assault on my heritage. Tearing down statues of the founding fathers does.

I see you know an important distinction and prefer one flavour of slavers over the other!

wow, 35 million Americans living below poverty line, while the ghost busters are figuring out which statues to take down next in order to fix the inequality issues. When you’re done with statues, burn all the books, all the museum inventory from “dark and troubled times”, i.e. entire human history. Burn all buildings too, built and engineered by slavers. That will fix all what is wrong in America (and the world!) immediately, I promise.

 

[caketastydelish]

I've already made the argument eloquently these last few pages, take the time to actually read it.

 

[Bugfatty300]

I see you know an important distinction and prefer one flavour of slavers over the other!

wow, 35 million Americans living below poverty line, while the ghost busters are figuring out which statues to take down next in order to fix the inequality issues. When you’re done with statues, burn all the books, all the museum inventory from “dark and troubled times”, i.e. entire human history. Burn all buildings too, built and engineered by slavers. That will fix all what is wrong in America (and the world!) immediately, I promise.

"Those who start by toppling statues end by toppling civilizations"
-Somebody on the web with no argument

 

[AmazonQueen]

I see you know an important distinction and prefer one flavour of slavers over the other!

wow, 35 million Americans living below poverty line, while the ghost busters are figuring out which statues to take down next in order to fix the inequality issues. When you’re done with statues, burn all the books, all the museum inventory from “dark and troubled times”, i.e. entire human history. Burn all buildings too, built and engineered by slavers. That will fix all what is wrong in America (and the world!) immediately, I promise.

Statues commemorate people.
Nobody, least of all the Romans, forgot who Caligula and Nero were after tearing their statues down.

 

[Berzerker]

I see you know an important distinction and prefer one flavour of slavers over the other!

wow, 35 million Americans living below poverty line, while the ghost busters are figuring out which statues to take down next in order to fix the inequality issues. When you’re done with statues, burn all the books, all the museum inventory from “dark and troubled times”, i.e. entire human history. Burn all buildings too, built and engineered by slavers. That will fix all what is wrong in America (and the world!) immediately, I promise.

Why rub the symbols of slavery in the noses of its victims? These are public displays, not books in a library.

 

[Crezth]

wow, 35 million Americans living below poverty line,

Who do you think's tearing down the statues?

 

[Sommerswerd]

They're demoing the "abolish the police" idea in Atlanta tonight. The night shift in a number of zones has walked off the job and neighboring jurisdictions are refusing calls for assistance.

That's not correct. Police are "calling out" in higher numbers than usual. Good riddance to police that are acting in solidarity with racist acts by other officers. A night with them off the streets is a safer night for black people..

I have a lot of family in Atlanta, most in Fulton County (where Atlanta is located), particularly in the poorest "Southwest Atlanta" area. I've heard from them. The area hasn't descended into chaos. I think the theme of claiming/implying that offending the police with protests will lead to anarchy is just shameless fear-mongering. It's not.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Ah, but you're not an 'Murican-Murican. You're an Middleesaern-'Murican.

My mother is white. Either way, I was born and raised in this country, haven’t lived anywhere else. I’m as American as anyone else who can say the same.

The fact that you responded to an accusation that you're not a "real Murican" with "I'm part white" says it all.

In any case, I agree with you that "American" isn't, and shouldn't be limited to "pure" white folks.

 

[caketastydelish]

The confederate lovers are militantly insisting that their huge statues remain erected in public places because they are compensating for something else.

 

[Bugfatty300]

The fact that you responded to an accusation that you're not a "real Murican" with "I'm part white" says it all.

In any case, I agree with you that "American" isn't, and shouldn't be limited to "pure" white folks.

To be fair Takhsis brought up his race and he just clarified it.