[RD] George Floyd and protesting while black

[Ajidica]

The guy is scum and until he is gone any chance at institutional reform in the MPD is dead.

 

[Estebonrober]

Letter from President to the members of the Police Officers' Federation Minneapolis...

A reminder that the status quo is just around the corner if we let it happen

 

[Imaus]

Day two Post-Trump parading.

Looks like hardly anyone gives a ****, the mantra is ''we outnumber the police'' and in nearly all cases they're right. Dunno about Minneapolis or Saint Paul itself, but it seems the coasts, the interior, Alaska, Hawaii, DGAF.

Trump's face has met a very big egg. I can only expect more empty hot air from him tomorrow morning.

Oh and another for the history books:

https://twitter.com/MarthaRaddatz/status/1267972382590984195







Martha Raddatz
@MarthaRaddatz

Your Lincoln Memorial this evening.







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[Joij21]

Well it looks like Donald Trump's dream has finally come true! He's now having that military parade he always wanted to in the streets of the capital!

 

[Takhisis]

Letter from President to the members of the Police Officers' Federation Minneapolis...

He says ‘terminated without due process’. This is a study in irony.

 

[Takhisis]

For more unintentional, cringeworthy hilarity:

D.C. had no problems last night. Many arrests. Great job done by all. Overwhelming force. Domination. Likewise, Minneapolis was great (thank you President Trump!).&- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 2, 2020 ​

(13 hours ago, at noon D.C. time)

Also noteworthy is the twisted fact of Melania Trump's account being used to speak about ‘our great nation’ when she actually wasn't born in the USA and the current administration owes its electoral success in part to denying the real circumstance of Barack Obama having been born in the USA.

 

[Joij21]

Well I guess we're gonna collapse soon.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...b210b8-a4f6-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html

 

[cardgame]

Do protesters have clear demands and goals?
"Black Lives Matter" is all good, but it's a slogan, not a demand.
"Justice for George Floyd" is also not much of a demand, the murderer is already arrested.

even without any written demands, they know damn well what we want.

We want these people fired. Not just the two voices suggesting violence, but the third voice who only wants them to stop saying the quiet part out loud. He doesn't want them to stop saying it. He wants it off the air. We want these demands implemented in every PD in the country. It's not about MPD.

 

[Gorbles]

Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva Says Curfew Will Continue “Until The Organized Protests Are Gone" (Deadline, via Twitter). Full link in tweet.

They're just, uh, saying the quiet part out loud huh?

 

[caketastydelish]

I'm not sure it's a total slam dunk that US military deployed with orders to keep peace and prevent violence in US cities automatically sides with the cops

Have you seen the national guard joining the protestors? a lot of them are not.

 

[Gorbles]

Yet another example of police pepper spraying an obvious member of the press.

 

[cardgame]

I'm very slowly and very casually reuploading some videos of brutality to my youtube because this forum doesn't do mp4 embeds. there's literally hundreds of examples to choose from so what you're seeing from me is 1% of what's out there and who knows how much isn't even being recorded.

if anyone is still defending the police state you can go ahead and block me, I consider you my enemy.

 

[Berzerker]

I saw video of a cop knocking an old man with a cane to the ground

 

[Arwon]

Have you seen the national guard joining the protestors? a lot of them are not.

National Guard is a bit different to the literal US army, but also, I'm not necessarily speculating that they will support the protests and oppose police, either. Just noting that there's different rules of engagement, a different institutional culture, they don't have the cop history and ideology of inflicting violence on US citizens merely for existing, there's a higher threat tolerance and more training in general, the army may even be a bit less insanely racist than police forces.

I'm just really not sure how a general "prevent violence and keep the peace" order might be applied by a legit military with no history of internal political suppression. Stuff like passive physical occupation of space by protesters might well be left alone by a trained army that doesn't panic and freak out like the cops do, for instance. And police may well do things that are in conflict with the army's rules of engagement.

Like it's entirely plausible, very possible that they just go in and act like more cops, or act like they're occupying Fallujah. But there's reasons to think something else may happen.

 

[H4run]

I saw video of a cop knocking an old man with a cane to the ground

That's pure arrogancy. Not using violent here is work for their own benefit not the protester, while using it it will only coming back to them, when it happened and pass to certain border it would be too late for an easy peaceful containment.

If force containment can fix the problem, now Syria would be in peace. And Syrian don't own gun, but with time they able to armed themselves. I can imagine the time that is required for USians to armed themselves is equal with the time they needed to go back home to pick up their guns and riffle. The security apparatus should stop intoxicating themselves with their megaloman ego.

 

[Lexicus]

So I'm thinking- for this to accomplish anything lasting, I think it'll need to be supported by a general strike of the essential workers.

But it will have to be a sit-down strike - basically occupying the real estate.

 

[H4run]

So I'm thinking- for this to accomplish anything lasting

I might be wrong but 1 out of 2 demand in the the point of "law/institutional reformation" also not quite technically clear, what part of the law or police institution they want to alter, adjust or abolish? Isn't it should be made specific?

 

[caketastydelish]

National Guard is a bit different to the literal US army, but also, I'm not necessarily speculating that they will support the protests and oppose police, either. Just noting that there's different rules of engagement, a different institutional culture, they don't have the cop history and ideology of inflicting violence on US citizens merely for existing, there's a higher threat tolerance and more training in general, the army may even be a bit less insanely racist than police forces.

I'm just really not sure how a general "prevent violence and keep the peace" order might be applied by a legit military with no history of internal political suppression. Stuff like passive physical occupation of space by protesters might well be left alone by a trained army that doesn't panic and freak out like the cops do, for instance. And police may well do things that are in conflict with the army's rules of engagement.

Like it's entirely plausible, very possible that they just go in and act like more cops, or act like they're occupying Fallujah. But there's reasons to think something else may happen.

Are we sure they're explicitly siding with the protestors, though? My understanding is they were.

edit: random other statement: if you hate black people, then I hate you.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

Letter from President to the members of the Police Officers' Federation Minneapolis...

And people still believe they can reform these scum

 

[aelf]

If liberals and progressives owned guns and stocked the ranks of the police, they’d have been compromising with us this whole time, instead of vice versa.

Letter from President to the members of the Police Officers' Federation Minneapolis...

Yup, I guess civil war is the only way to create long-term change. You need to start turning on conservatives in your society like this guy who wrote that letter. A second American Civil War where you go Sherman on Republican regions.