Greek communication thread

i just had a chat with fe3333au. gave and found out some good info and had a good chat to strengthen the relationship between us and MIA. here it is:

Tidalwave178: hey fe3333au its greekguy. have time to chat?
fe3333au: 1 sec ... I'll make a coffee ... how are you?
Tidalwave178: Good, things are looking a little up for TNT atm
Tidalwave178: first, i would like to give a belated thanks to MIA for the furs. we haven't had time to write up a proper message to you guys since we were busy with other matters.
fe3333au: no problem ... I was just being ... well me I guess :-D
fe3333au: My team often tell me to relax LOL
fe3333au: We were just trying to show you that we are not dismissing you guys and abandoning you
Tidalwave178: We know you aren't abandoning us. Its just the general feeling at our team right now is frustration at how we are being surrounded very quickly by 2 enemies deadset on killing us.
Tidalwave178: btw, we are wondering when will your troops be ready to invade D'Nuts?
fe3333au: 1 sec water boiled ... it is 5.20am ... so I really need caffine for this convo LOL
Tidalwave178: yeah, take all the caffeine you need to stay awake, 5 is really early! i'm good here, seeing as it is 3 in the afternoon.
fe3333au: Just opening where the notes are ... so while that is happening ... you got our warning about SIX galleys
Tidalwave178: yeah, we got your message and are preparing to defend our eastern core
Tidalwave178: there is a huge stack of Galls coming towards Unabomb. however, we put our entire immortal/treb stack in the town and are gonna attack them this turn.
fe3333au: good
fe3333au: Regarding Nuts we are building military and are preparing ships ... but it will take a bit of time
Tidalwave178: ok, we can hold them off for a few turns. we're building pikes in our south and producing immortals and trebs in our core.
fe3333au: Also due to intel we will also have to ensure safety of our own borders
Tidalwave178: understood.
fe3333au: We are also using diplomatic avenues to try and persuade Nuts to see KISS as the real threat
Tidalwave178: doubt they'll believe that
fe3333au: can but try
Tidalwave178: they seem to think in short term, rather than realizing they're next if KISS manages to defeat us
fe3333au: that is what we are trying to relay to them ... we have already stressed that we are not at all happy with what they are doing
Tidalwave178: ok
Tidalwave178: btw, i can give you the exact KISS forces in their stack coming for Unabomb...hopefully this could help you determining how strong KISS is.
fe3333au: any of that info would be very usefull to both of us ... btw KISS settled another town on the Green Continent ... so we think that they don't have any more spare settlers ... however this info is an assumption and may very well be incorrect
Tidalwave178: ok, this is what they have have 1 square east of Unabomb: 2 vet Gallic Swords, 3 elite Swords, 6 vet MDIs, 1 elite MDI, 2 vet pikes, and 6 trebs
fe3333au: Where is Unabonb in the East?
fe3333au: *Unabomb
Tidalwave178: there is a forest 1 square east of Unabomb, this is where the KISS SOD is. another square east and one SouthEast is Spite.
fe3333au: and Nuts are also in the bottom East?
Tidalwave178: uhh, D'Nuts are south of us, not east.
fe3333au: on the east side or middle?
fe3333au: ummm ... are they near where KISS are attacking?
Tidalwave178: their country is sprawled across the bottom half of our continent. they kind of are everywhere south of us. they aren't really near where KISS has their cities and units.
fe3333au: so two separte fronts ... damn that makes it difficult
Tidalwave178: yeah, that's why its so tough. we have to spread our forces across 2 fronts.
fe3333au: regarding the KISS armada we will shadow it and if they try to souround a coasta; city ... do you want us to sit on a fish or whale tile so you get the benefit of the resource?
Tidalwave178: it depends how our own expedition fares. we plan on rushing 2 galleys in our northern coastal cities and attacking the KISS gallies ourselves.
Tidalwave178: we're hoping to eliminate some of their ships.
fe3333au: well we can give you intel but unfortunately it will be outdated due to turn order
Tidalwave178: yeah, but you can still tell us how many turns away they are from us
fe3333au: no problem ... we can give you exact starting location of their fleet
Tidalwave178: thanks
fe3333au: you might even be able to hide them in a city and surprise attack them
Tidalwave178: yeah, we'll see how things go in the next couple of turns
fe3333au: so apart from troop movements ... what other intel do you need from us?
Tidalwave178: well, you guys are still stronger than D'Nuts, right?
fe3333au: yes ... I think we are
Tidalwave178: ok, so how much troops do you think we will need to contribute in the attack on the Iroqi? when you guys attack them some turns down the line, how much help would you need? this could be useful for us, so we know where to send our offensive forces in the next couple turns (towards KISS or Iroqi)
fe3333au: I would have to get back to you on that ... but I see KISS and the bigger threat as Nuts are Weak to you are they not?
Tidalwave178: we know KISS is stronger, but we still need to send troops south, and we probably would want some of our cities back when you attack D'nuts.
fe3333au: understood and will certainly relay this to the team
Tidalwave178: another thing, about the double silk deal. Strider has said the only way to cancel the deal is to declare war, so we can't do anything about it.
fe3333au: K ... I don't think it is a biggy ... it was just pointed out to us by Ainwood
fe3333au: Civ Assist2 works agin though :-D
Tidalwave178: also, after Strider plays the save tonight, he'll send you a PM with the Battle Log for our big attack on KISS.
fe3333au: That would be excellent ... I hope that it will be enjoyable reading for us both ;-)
fe3333au: Just so you know ... our Defence Minister is away for weekend
Tidalwave178: ok
fe3333au: regarding chatting it is unfortunately difficult for you and I to chat ... would you prefer to have another option?
fe3333au: a yank maybe?
Tidalwave178: well, Strider told me he recently got AIM. his AIM screename is StridTNT.
Tidalwave178: btw, i live in New Jersey, USA. so i am a "yank"
fe3333au: OK I'll add it to my list ... I was thinking of you chatting with another MIAer
Tidalwave178: oh, well who else lives in America and is active on MIA and has AIM.
fe3333au: MIA is half yank and half ozzie :-D
fe3333au: Gen_W, Chamnix, Peter Gromes, gbno1fan
fe3333au: *Grimes
Tidalwave178: ok, could you give me General_W and Chaminx's AIM
fe3333au: generalw77 ... actually I don't think I have Chamnix on my list he uses another system
Tidalwave178: all i have is AIM.
Tidalwave178: thanks for Gen_W's AIM though
fe3333au: well you now have the general_w
fe3333au: no problem
Tidalwave178: ok, i'll try to chat with him next time our 2 teams have a lot to talk about.
fe3333au: So we got a ruling from GA and RM about selling Meaz Keep ... that is not allowed by the rules ... but what was your reaction to that proposal?
Tidalwave178: we were thinking about the idea, since we trusted you guys to return it to us after the war. but we figured we could see D'Nuts coming for us a turn or 2 before they reached the city, since they have to go through jungle
Tidalwave178: we thought we would give it to you if we saw 5 MWs just outside the Keep's borders
fe3333au: I'm glad you saw it for what it was ... and not as a lure ... it shows trust
fe3333au: That is a good idea
fe3333au: delete ... I read we were going to raze it if we saw enemy approach
fe3333au: KISS have only 4 turns left in their golden age btw
Tidalwave178: that is very good news!!
fe3333au: actually 3 turns in your current turn
Tidalwave178: so we should see a dropoff of Gallic forces in about 10 turns or so, figuring they still have units on their continent ready to be shipped over and are building more units right now.
fe3333au: yes ... it will certainly ease off the pressure ... and hopefully you can wack their navy as well
Tidalwave178: yeah, we will certainly try
fe3333au: Just noticed Strider is on-line atm ... is he your turn taker?
Tidalwave178: yeah, he is doing the turns now
Tidalwave178: BCLG said if he can get C3C working he'll do some turns, and i offered to help play some turns over the summer when i have more time
fe3333au: glad to hear it :-)
fe3333au: Regarding Nut camaigne ... we would want to create a base of operations on the continent in order to have a base where units can be healed
Tidalwave178: maybe you could capture one of their costal cities or build your own on the coast
fe3333au: still discussing the plan ... and it is certainly not my decision ... but it seems logical
Tidalwave178: ok, i gtg now
Tidalwave178: i'll post this chat in our team forum
fe3333au: thanks mate ... I'm almost dead on my chair
fe3333au: cya
Tidalwave178: ok bye
 
ive got hotmail and would be a closer timezone to fe perhaps?

there not giving us an exact date on when they are going to attack.
I just cant help feeling they are not going too any time soon, we should maybe ask for some gold to help us rush some units..
 
i agree we probably can't count on sufficient MIA military support for at least 10 turns, but i that's only because they are worried KISS might breakt the peace treaty and attack. i can understand that. also, what i got from the chat was that MIA was mobilizing their forces and once they have an army ready they will beat up on D'Nuts.
 
greekguy said:
i agree we probably can't count on sufficient MIA military support for at least 10 turns, but i that's only because they are worried KISS might breakt the peace treaty and attack. i can understand that. also, what i got from the chat was that MIA was mobilizing their forces and once they have an army ready they will beat up on D'Nuts.


No they should not worry that, if they are playing this game with honour then they must realise that KISS is also doing the same, i think they might be waiting until we are not in a position at all to win the game and then they'll beat up on the nutters leaving 2 teams behind.
 
I talked to fe3333au some. It's a long chat log, but nothing interesting really happened. I'll summarize for you:

Most of it was just a repeat of greekguy's above. I gave them advice on where to settle a beach-head for a nutter invasion. Other than that, we basically just shot strategies back and forth to eachother. There was acouple of things fe3333au brought up that was diplomatic stuff and I told him that greekguy held most the power where that was concerned. I did tell him that we need some gold and it seems he started a discussion about it. The only "decision making" I did was when he asked if they should try to plant there galley on a fish or something to keep the city the galls are attacking a source of food. I figured it was pretty safe to say yes on that one.

Other than that, we just talked about our awful luck with the RNG.

[19:44] fe3333au: wow great I look forward to receiving the Battle Log ... looks like I may have to 'find' some of that damned wine that keeps on going missing ;)
[19:44] StridTNT: BTW... to cancel the silks I would have to declare war.
[19:45] fe3333au: MIA wish you luck in the random generator
[19:45] fe3333au: Yes greekguy said ... I just mentioned it as Ainwood mentioned it to us
[19:45] StridTNT: Is greekguy on right now?
[19:45] fe3333au: no he left couple of hours ago
[19:46] fe3333au: When will you be playing?
[19:46] StridTNT: I'm thinking about playing right now...
[19:47] StridTNT: Want to watch the battle report "live"?
[19:47] fe3333au: OK no rush ... I was going to bed ... bt can wait another couple hours ... bloody cold here so nothing happening outdoors
[19:48] fe3333au: Sure ... if you want
[19:49] fe3333au: btw ... I hope you were not offended by my remark about expecting a 'thank you for furs note' ... I tend to get carried away sometimes ... my team often tell me to settle down LOL
[19:49] fe3333au: as they should :-D
[19:50] StridTNT: What "thank your for the furs" note?
[19:50] fe3333au: Did you do last save?
[19:50] StridTNT: Yep
[19:50] StridTNT: I took over from Donsig... about 3 turns ago.
[19:51] fe3333au: Well we sent furs after Gems were cut ... as a goodwill act to show solidarity
[19:51] fe3333au: same time we sent Invention
[19:51] StridTNT: Yep, I remember accepting that ;).
[19:52] StridTNT: Still at a lost as to why I should be offended though :0
[19:52] fe3333au: Cos you never said thankyou LOL
[19:53] StridTNT: Oh, well. Thank you for the furs and crazy inventor people..
[19:53] fe3333au: LOL
[19:54] fe3333au: I also sent a warning for SIX galleys headed your way
[19:54] StridTNT: Yep, we've made plans for them.
[19:54] StridTNT: We calculated we have about 4 turns of free time untill they land..
[19:55] fe3333au: sound good ... now all we can do is cross fingers and i guess every body part and hope for a good roll of the dice ... sounds like it is your turn for luck
[19:55] fe3333au: We plan to shadow the armada and keep you informed
[19:56] StridTNT: Were rushing two galley's to hopefully take a few down beforehand.
[19:57] fe3333au: Yes ... you may be able to keep Galleys hidden as well ... maybe even in the city ... btw their Golden Age is only 3 more turns
[20:18] fe3333au: and when they attack ... your trebs will hopefully further damage them
[20:18] StridTNT: I don't think they have a force capable of attacking anymore..
[20:18] fe3333au: That is good
[20:18] StridTNT: This is one long of a battle log though..
[20:19] StridTNT: Only 2 units are in good enough shape to attack and we have more than 2 pikes in that city..
[20:19] fe3333au: that's good ... so what do they have left?
[20:20] StridTNT: 1/4 Medevil Infantry, 2/4 Medevil Infantry, 4/4 Medevil Infantry, 4/4 Medevil Infantry, 1/5 Pike, 2/4 swordsman, 2/4 swordsman
[20:21] StridTNT: Then 6 trebuchets..
[20:21] fe3333au: Those rock throwers are a bastard
[20:22] fe3333au: How is your cash situation?
[20:22] StridTNT: Were poor..
[20:22] StridTNT: To many rushes constantly..
[20:22] fe3333au: yes
[20:22] fe3333au: :(
[20:24] StridTNT: If it wasn't for the gall trebuchets, we would have killed 4 more units..
[20:25] StridTNT: eh, oh well..
[20:25] fe3333au: yes ... but the same benefit will help you guys if KISS attack
[20:26] StridTNT: True... that and we have alot more trebuchets..
[20:26] StridTNT: We have about 10 or so..
[20:27] fe3333au: excellent news
[20:27] StridTNT: Do I send the battle log to the adminds also?
[20:27] StridTNT: *admins
[20:27] fe3333au: yes and to KISS
[20:28] StridTNT: and I'm sending it to you guys also..
[20:28] StridTNT: Just so you have a record..
[20:28] fe3333au: yes please but send ours separate do not cc ...
[20:28] StridTNT: Understood..
[20:29] fe3333au: the only other thing is to tell us what the Military Strengths are
[20:30] StridTNT: Same as always..
[20:30] StridTNT: I sent it already, but it's the same as the last couple of times..
[20:31] fe3333au: cool ... now is there anything apart from Military Strengths and Troop Movement ... that you would like from us?
[20:32] StridTNT: We could use some gold, but we don't really have anything to trade. *shrug*
[20:32] fe3333au: understand ... and noted :)
[20:34] StridTNT: Were playing a defensive war with out southern neighbors right now.
[20:37] StridTNT: BTW, our pike sees a TNT galley one tile north and one tile west of malice..
[20:37] StridTNT: Is that one of the ones you guys can see?
[20:38] fe3333au: No or we would have mentioned ... They must be moving up to keep an eye on KISS
[20:38] StridTNT: Whoops.. I meant a Gall galley.. not a TNT galley..
[20:39] StridTNT: Might be 7 galleys out there instead of six...
[20:39] fe3333au: two tiles up from Malice ... we saw SIX galleys
[20:39] StridTNT: Okay... then there are 7 galleys..
[20:40] fe3333au: Pity there are no sea barbs :(
[20:40] StridTNT: Yep, were have two galleys next turn though... hopefully both of those battles go well :)
[20:40] StridTNT: The RNG has hated us this entire game..
[20:41] fe3333au: yes
[20:41] StridTNT: Even this battle round, we were extremely unlucky..
[20:42] fe3333au: yes ... KISS were really lucky in the last big one weren't they
[20:43] StridTNT: Against our pikemen earlier.. they were extremely lucky. The round this turn... was a victory for us, but statistically we should have done considerably better.
[20:43] fe3333au: yes ... have you had similar bad luck with Nuts?
[20:44] StridTNT: Yep, we've had about the same luck with the nutters also.
[20:44] StridTNT: Losing multiple battles inwhich the odds were in our favor constantly..
[20:44] StridTNT: Oh well, you take what your given. Were handle with it.
[20:45] fe3333au: That luck must change soon ... does Golden Age have any effect to the odds?
[20:46] StridTNT: I don't think so... we were in our Golden Age during the first TNT vs Nut war... and we lost most of those battles (and most of them were in our favor)
[20:47] StridTNT: If we weren't so unlucky, we'd be doing excellent right now. Most of our problems are from our awful luck in battles...
[20:48] fe3333au: so greekguy mentioned that the Nuts were approaching a city ... when will that battle happen?
[20:49] StridTNT: Likely next turn..
[20:49] fe3333au: many attacking? how your defence there?
[20:49] StridTNT: Pretty good.
[20:50] StridTNT: They have 8 Mounted Warriors and a swordsman attacking..
[20:50] StridTNT: Our city has walls..
[20:50] fe3333au: that sound favourable for you
[20:52] StridTNT: It's a 78% chance of victory for each battle, but they do have more units..
[20:53] StridTNT: In favor of our pikemen..
[20:53] fe3333au: best of luck with that one too
[20:54] fe3333au: Is war weariness an issue yet?
[20:55] StridTNT: Nope.... the people are happy.
[20:55] StridTNT: They like killing things..
[20:55] fe3333au: that at least is good
[20:55] fe3333au: LOL
[20:56] StridTNT: Also, what did you mean by understood earlier when I made the comment?
[20:56] StridTNT: the gold comment that is..
[20:56] fe3333au: It will be posted and discussed
[20:57] fe3333au: perhaps we can help ... but no promises ... as we are madly bulding miltary
[20:57] StridTNT: KISS?
[20:57] fe3333au: and researching
[20:58] fe3333au: yes
[20:58] StridTNT: It would seem that KISS has alot of there military over by us..
[20:58] StridTNT: Well, most of there offense anyway... we've seen very few defensive units.
[20:59] fe3333au: that's good to know .. they are probably all along our border
[20:59] StridTNT: That would be my bet also...
[21:00] fe3333au: What city do you think KISS will target with their fleet?
[21:00] StridTNT: I'm betting on Grenadeopolis..
[21:00] StridTNT: It's closer, but if they decide to go for Carpetbomb..
[21:01] StridTNT: Either way though, we don't plan on giving them a chance to even attack the city..
[21:01] fe3333au: you will at least have a little warning I guess
[21:02] fe3333au: YES and hopefully shore bombardment plus new galleys will sink some before they can unload
[21:02] StridTNT: Yep... the current rack of immortals and trebuchets are going to heal up and head up there..
[21:02] fe3333au: That would be a reason to celebrate
[21:03] fe3333au: They would probably not expect the galleys :)
[21:03] StridTNT: Yep, the odds won't be in our favor... but it won't be hugely against us..
[21:04] StridTNT: 46% chance that our galley's will win..
[21:04] StridTNT: Not that bad.
[21:04] fe3333au: well worth the risk especially if they come out of a city and retreat back
[21:04] fe3333au: just depends on how they move
[21:05] StridTNT: Yep, if any survives afterwards.. it might be interesting to throw acouple immortals into them and send 'em over to the galls.
[21:05] StridTNT: If most of there offense is with us... and I'm betting there defense is on your border.
[21:05] StridTNT: They might not expect 4-5 immortals dropping on there northern borders..
[21:06] StridTNT: Or be prepared for it..
[21:06] fe3333au: yes
[21:06] fe3333au: double yes
[21:10] StridTNT: What is the possibility of you guys getting involved sometime in the near future?
[21:12] fe3333au: we are working out things regarding this issue ... we need to have defence on borders ... but are currently building up military and ships ... also working on strategies to address the Nuts and KISS
[21:13] fe3333au: so to answer your question we are addressing the situation ... but time is a factor as well
[21:14] StridTNT: Well, sooner would be alot better than later, but still... better late than never..
[21:15] fe3333au: I mentioned to greekguy that we will probably need a base of operations on your continet as well ... so that we have a place to heal wounded units ... and also act as a lure for Nuts/KISS while we surprise them somewhere they least expect it
[21:16] StridTNT: I don't know how'd we'd beable to do that..
[21:16] StridTNT: Maybe you could attack one of the cities the nuts took from us?
[21:17] fe3333au: Thinking better if it were closer to home ... less travelling distance
[21:17] fe3333au: Divide forces as well
[21:17] StridTNT: You could try settling a city over by the keep..
[21:18] fe3333au: Hmmm ... thats not a bad idea
[21:19] StridTNT: We'd beable to supply reinforcements VIA the road..
[21:20] StridTNT: Greekguy is the ambassador to you guys... so anything I say is really null and void.
[21:20] fe3333au: sure I understand
[21:21] fe3333au: We will certainly consult with you guys
[21:23] fe3333au: Yes ... at least your last turn has dented KISS
[21:24] StridTNT: Hopefully we can put another dent in them also... if everything goes as planned.
[21:24] fe3333au: exactly
[21:24] fe3333au: It will give them something to think about
[21:25] StridTNT: Were going to start adding workers to some of our cities...
[21:25] StridTNT: We already pumped Unabomb up from 1 to 6..
[21:25] fe3333au: To increase production and save them from capture
[21:25] StridTNT: That and we ran out of jobs for them to do..
[21:27] fe3333au: Yes good point
[21:28] fe3333au: Good idea ... regarding our Galley ... do you want us to plant it on a fish or whale so you maintain food benefit around the city they will attack?
[21:29] StridTNT: If possible, yes.
[21:29] fe3333au: let us know .. also we don't want to get in your way
[21:31] StridTNT: Yeah... greekguy will likely give you more info when it gets closer to the showdown..
[21:31] StridTNT: He has most of the decision-making power where you guys are concerned ;)
[21:31] fe3333au: yep
[21:31] StridTNT: I'm just the Crowned Prince..
[21:31] fe3333au: While I am but a mouthpiece for MIA LOL
[21:32] StridTNT: eh, I'm not even sure what "Crowned Prince" actually IS. We don't have a king or queen..
[21:32] fe3333au: so you guys got Monachy?
[21:32] StridTNT: Not really..
[21:33] StridTNT: Were more of an absolute democracy..
[21:33] StridTNT: Mostly though, I play the turns and I'm the ambassador to the nuts..
[21:34] fe3333au: us too ... well sort of because we have fullon discussion ... but I ment the technology of Monarchy?
[21:34] StridTNT: I have no idea, but even if we did... we can't afford switching..
[21:36] fe3333au: yes KISS have benefit there to switch governments ... excellent news!!
[21:36] StridTNT: Wait, what?
[21:37] fe3333au: ?
[21:37] StridTNT: eh... nevermind.
[21:37] fe3333au: Oh I see ... actually made mistake cos KISS are not religious
[21:37] fe3333au: or are they?
[21:38] fe3333au: Ag trait and ... religious(?)
[21:38] StridTNT: I have no idea..
[21:39] fe3333au: anyway not relivant at the moment
[21:39] StridTNT: Anyway, incase your wondering... we still have a pretty active team..
[21:39] fe3333au: I noticed :-D that;s great
[21:40] StridTNT: BCLG, Greekguy, Donsig, Donovan_Zoi, Lost_Civanatares, Theoden, and myself.
[21:40] StridTNT: We have acouple of others that pop in from time to time..
[21:40] fe3333au: I also chatted to Donsig so there are no hard feelings between us
[21:40] StridTNT: Donsig was just... frustrated..
[21:40] fe3333au: That's not a bad number
[21:41] fe3333au: We have Chamnix, general_W, peter Grimes, Classical hero, gpno1fan as regulars and others popping in and lurking
[21:41] fe3333au: I totally understand
[21:41] fe3333au: I like him
[21:42] StridTNT: Well, I think that we are doing pretty good under the circumstances.
[21:42] StridTNT: It does seem that nothing EVER goes our way though.
[21:42] fe3333au: me too
[21:43] fe3333au: well it can only improve then
[21:43] StridTNT: I sure hope so... were running out of tatics to use.
[21:44] fe3333au: only 3 more turns
[21:45] fe3333au: So any news from Nuts, are they talking to you?
[21:45] StridTNT: They accidently sent us peace a turn ago, but we aren't really making any attempt to talk.
[21:46] StridTNT: It was the usual... you know.. we sent them a messanger... they sent us his head back.
[21:46] fe3333au: LOL
[21:47] fe3333au: At least you got the head ... n a Zombie mod I have played ... you don't even get the head back
[21:47] StridTNT: What do you think your teams chance of making talking the galls into making peace is?
[21:48] StridTNT: I have a feeling your team really want to just sit over there and build and if we can get the galls out of the war..
[21:48] fe3333au: with you? ... I honestly don't know ... when we have talked ... they have been hell bent on your extinction
[21:49] StridTNT: haha.. I really doubt they want to pay the price for our extincition..
[21:49] fe3333au: However, if it becomes difficult for them ... they may want peace ... but probably under their terms
[21:49] StridTNT: Honestly, MIA is in a very good poistion right now ;).
[21:49] fe3333au: Who is your KISS contact person?
[21:50] StridTNT: BCLG is our ambassador to KISS
[21:50] fe3333au: Peace does have its benefits ... but we think war will sadly come for us very soon
[21:50] fe3333au: Who at KISS does he deal with?
[21:50] StridTNT: Usually Whomp I think..
[21:51] fe3333au: Whomp is taking back seat for a while ... Daghie is in charge
[21:52] StridTNT: Hopefully this last battle will make them think twice..
[21:52] fe3333au: yes I hoping that as well ... actually it really depends on the fleet
[21:52] fe3333au: x-post LOL
[21:53] StridTNT: They wanted Semtax from us in there last peace offer..
[21:53] StridTNT: We refused.. of course.
[21:54] fe3333au: I would have been surprised if you had given it too them LOL
[21:54] fe3333au: lucky that is not on the coast
[21:54] StridTNT: It's one of the top 5 cities in the world.. and it's abotu three tiles from our capital..
[21:55] fe3333au: Yes something to be proud of :)
[21:55] fe3333au: We are happy with Athens ... especially our sun dial LOL
 
Latest from the Greeks:

fe3333au said:
Greetings TNT

Firstly let me thank you for the openness you have shown us by sharing Battle Logs and Tactics.

While the defence of Unabomb could have gone better for you, at least KISS land forces have been dented. We wish you good fortune when both KISS and Nutters attack (if they do) next turn.

Military Strengths
Nutters ... we are STRONG
TNT ... we are now STRONG
KISS ... we are WEAK :(

MIA Spotters
Our Knight ... continues on route to KISS zone and is near one of your cities.
Our Galley ... The SIX Galleys are still grouped together and are now directly North of the coastal Ivory 3 tiles east of Grenadapolis. We have moved onto the fish resource to protect it for you ... We hope that your workers on the hill will be completing their project soon.

Best of Luck :salute:

Feaurius III
MIA Foreign offices
 
it may be worth we pull that pike which we were using as a scout back so it can actually be of some use defending our cities.
 
i'm not so sure, that pike might serve to distract KISS, maybe they'll think we have more troops up there and they'll fear an attack from 2 directions.
 
TNT

Congratulations in sinking a KISS galley, that is indeed a difficult task. :salute:

Also it looks like you managed to break the back of KISS' inland plans as well as deterring the Nut. :D

The potential loss of Grenadapolis is indeed very disturbing ... our Galley will remain on the fish tile to protect your resource.

We have examined all possibilities to swiftly and securely re-establish a trade route if your harbour city falls and decided that the best option is for us to create our own link. This is due to the fact that you have only 2 coastal cities, one of them gravely threatened. This supply route will be essential for your defence as it will provide a secure supply of MIA iron if KISS are successful.

Therefore we will begin this process by sending a settler and escort on a mission to secure the silk supply, we will be founding a city near Mezzonotte Keep which will be followed closely by one to settle on the coast. We will then have to build a road connecting the two. To speed this process up, we would greatly appreciate that you send any remaining workers to assist in roading the jungle. Once we have linked our harbour to Mezzonotte Keep we will re-establish the fur trade and send iron if required.

There has been no change in military strength information for us, we are STRONG compared to you and the Nutters and still WEAK to KISS.

We plan on moving our knight spotter onto the hill E-NE-NE of Dancing Banana, however we wish our presence to remain secret from foreign eyes. Please advise us of any KISS or Nut units in the vicinity.

We are also wondering if you still intend to send us Battle Logs.

We wish you luck in defending against the KISS actions.
Sincerely

MIA

Well we may as well send them battle logs- dont really see the point?

i think we should tell them no to the workers, we have another source of iron and we could just add them to the cities-let them do their own work.
 
ok, so how about i write up a message later today, including the battle logs and that we need our workers for other projects. i'll also tell them generally how well the war is going.
 
Here's my proposed reply. Please give feedback!

Dear MIA,

Thank you for the congratulations on the successful battles against KISS and D'Nuts. However, I'm afraid the tides have changed rather quickly, as the KISS stack of longbows and pikemen managed to breach the defenses of Grenadapolis and burned the town to the ground. This of course eliminates our current resource trades and will mean we will be without a source of iron for a little while. We have an unhooked up source of iron on our western border, safe from KISS invasion (for now). Here's the battle log to give you a general idea of what we are still facing from KISS:

LB dies to pike (1/3)
LB kills pike (4/4)
LB kills redlined pike and we raze the town
A worker is captured in town and another outside of town on the iron hill.

In the coast near Carpetbomb:

Perky Galley sinks the Titanic without a scratch (4/4)

Also, we are glad to hear you plan on building two cities on our continent, and close to the Keep as well. This will hopefully ensure the Keep's protection, and will reopen our teams' ability to trade resources again. However, we are currently unable to send workers to help build roads through the jungle. We have few workers left, as many have been joined with our cities to increase production, and the few remaining laborers are currently working on other matters and unavailable for reassignment. I hope this doesn't delay our teams' hopeful trade route by much.

Lastly, concerning your intercontinental Knight scout. Try to avoid the coast or any northern region, as KISS boats/troops might be in the area. The KISS stack of longbows and pikes wil be in the vicinity of the ruins of Grenadapolis, so avoid that area as well. If you want your Knight to be a spotter on the suggested hill, I think it would be ok, as I don't think KISS troops can see that far into our territory. If we see any KISS troops heading towards that spot, we will warn in advance.

Bye for now. :)

greekguy, TNT Greek Ambassador
 
btw, i sent the message to MIA last night, just forgot to post here.
 
:lol: hey, i am trying to recruit more people, how about you send out some PMs to recruit people? then we won't have the same cast of characters posting everyday. :p
 
greekguy said:
:lol: hey, i am trying to recruit more people, how about you send out some PMs to recruit people? then we won't have the same cast of characters posting everyday. :p


lol, i would but everyone else either has moved onto civ4 or is on other teams! we just need someone with a working conquests disc!
 
Message from the Greeks:

No change in Military strengths

We are confused ... we can still trade with you ... why is this so ???
We thought that Grenadapolis was only city with harbour ???
We are prepared to send you Iron this turn ...

We are waiting on game administrators to make judgement if save is corrupted.

Cheers MIA

i noticed this while playing the save also, the trade route wasn't broken, but i couldn't figure out why. we lost our only harbor in Grenadapolis and MIA doesn't have any cities on our continent or anything, so why can we still trade with them? :confused:
 
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