Greek communication thread

[Donovan Zoi]

Any chance we can get MIA to escalate the "boat incident?"

We should ask them if their treaty with K.I.S.S. includes actions taken in neutral waters of both teams. If there is no passage forbidding MIA from messing with KISS's naval advance, then our enemy may tire of this type of action and declare war on MIA themselves!

Perhaps not with the boat, but what about the Greek Knight that is on our continent now? We should humbly ask if MIA would be willing to use their Knight as a peaceful buffer against KISS' advance on our people. If the Greek's are really wringing their hands about the current world predicament (and they can parse the terms of their treaty to make it happen), they will accept this idea and hopefully goad the Idiots into breaking their treaty -- hastening the 2-on-1 war that will save our butt.

While presenting this to MIA, ask if you may see a copy of their treaty with KISS. Their agreement to grant this request would prove once and for all that their intentions are true. Plus, if anyone can parse legalese to our advantage, it is donsig and I.

Let me know what you think.

 

[BCLG100]

its a good idea DZ and now we'll see if they really are our allies after saying they would go to war with the nutters if they went against us.

I've said what we should do in the war in our other thread.

 

[greekguy]

no time to write up reply today. will write up message first thing tomorrow morning.

 

[BCLG100]

Well how about we go for short and simple first off.

Dear MIA

D'nuts invaded! need help, time to be an ally now and give us a hand!

Sincerly
TNT

Anyone fancy sending it?

 

[greekguy]

i sent this quick message to MIA. i expanded on your basic 2 sentence idea BCLG.

Dear MIA,

D'Nuts have invaded our nation this turn! They captured two of our southern jungle cities, with no losses to their forces. We can't hold out against both enemies for long. It is now obvious KISS and D'Nuts coordinated these attacks to cripple and then destroy us. Please, be an ally, and declare war on D'Nuts ASAP!! We need help and won't survive long without your aid!!

Please respond soon.

Bye for now.

greekguy, TNT Greek Ambassador

i'll draw up a complete response later and send a detailed message to them telling about our situation. at least now they know the war is on.

 

[greekguy]

here's my proposed message to MIA. please give feedback!

Dear MIA,

As you now know, the evil nation of Iroqi have joined the Galls in this wawr and invaded our land. We were caught off guard and lost two border jungle towns immediately, Fruitbomb and Torusopolis. We had rushed pikes in each of these towns the turn before...if only we had done so 1 turn earlier...

Now, we are currently in desperate straits. We are being quickly boxed in by KISS and D'Nuts, and don't have enough units to defend our sprawling empire. We cannot defend all our land. If we are to save our core, we need to the war to last long, which means we need to open another front. We need you to come to our aid and declare war on D'Nuts and send units to our continent ASAP. If you can open another front in the jungle, then D'Nuts will be occupied and we shall be safe and can concentrate on the Galls. We also would like to coordinate attacks with you, in the hopes of crippling the Iroqi core. If you don't come to our aid in our hour of need, we will be destroyed and our land will be split up between the Galls and the Iroqi.

Also, we would request of you to send us Chivalry very soon. We need the power of knights to increase our offensive capabilites and increase the flexibility of our army. If you need restitution in exchange for this tech, please ask what you want from us in exchange for Chivlary.

We will share with you all information that you need concerning the war. We hope this will aid you in grasping the severity of the situation. Here's some info about our military strengths for starters:

We are strong compared to the Iroqi.
We are average to MIA
We are weak compared to KISS.

That's all for now. Please respond soon and please declare on war on D'Nuts. They must be punished for this war of cruelty!

Bye for now.

greekguy, TNT Greek Ambassador

 

[Strider]

Copied over from the planning thread:

We need to at the least get M.I.A. to declare war against the nuts, but it would be even better if they declared war against K.I.S.S. If they can keep the galls of our backs, we can handle the nuts. I suggest we tell them the truth, pure and simple. Tell M.I.A. that unless they declare war on the galls and get them off our backs... this war is over.

 

[greekguy]

i realize that if MIA declared on KISS it would ensure our survival. however, MIA has made it abundantly clear if several PMs they will not break a treaty. They are not going to declare war on KISS until the treaty expires. We should focus on convincing them to declare on the Iroqi, and then coordinating attacks with them against D'Nuts.

 

[Strider]

i realize that if MIA declared on KISS it would ensure our survival. however, MIA has made it abundantly clear if several PMs they will not break a treaty. They are not going to declare war on KISS until the treaty expires. We should focus on convincing them to declare on the Iroqi, and then coordinating attacks with them against D'Nuts.

Several PMs recently? Under the new circumstances? Tell them pure and simple that the galls and nuts have broken treaties with us when the declared war (lux deals both I believe). Neither will hestitate to do the same to M.I.A.

 

[greekguy]

check out post #408...they won't care if we die, they have decided their honor is worth more than our continued survival.

 

[Strider]

check out post #408...they won't care if we die, they have decided their honor is worth more than our continued survival.

Regardless of what they think, there is no honor in leaving a friend to hang.

 

[BCLG100]

KISS dont break treaties, plain and simple they never broke a treaty with us, the only treaty the nutters broke with us is that trade agreement.

we dont need chivalry, so dont ask for it.

 

[greekguy]

Latest from MIA:

Hi TNT

This has been written in haste so please excuse the abruptness but I have security concerns.

I want this to be confidential between MIA and TNT ONLY !!!!

I am sorry that Donsig left in the manner he did, it seemed like a real put down on your team ... and I am really pissed off at him. Leaving a game is ok, but to exit in the manner that he did is ... poor sportsmanship to say the least!

I hope that you can find a way to continue the game.

Regarding your request for us to declare on Nuts ... at this stage I cannot answer any further questions ... for the following reasons.

I have had a chat with Whomp (he is a friend and we havn't spoken for a few months) ... anyway during the chat we naturally discussed Donsig and the ramifications of his action for this game ... I then naturally asked about the war and their plans for you ... fishing for intelegence for both our teams.

It distressed me when ... I clip and bold section of the chat.

bawhomp: i saw you gave some intel to TNT
fe3333au: what intel?
bawhomp: about our boats
fe3333au: must have been a while ago ... cos we havn't seen your boats for a while
bawhomp: last turn ... twisted aardvark
fe3333au: no we havn't ... I pretty sure noone else did either ... cos we only met you this turn ... and that is from your message about get out of our way ... In Game ... we havn't seen you yet
bawhomp: well BCLG said you told them
fe3333au: strange ...
bawhomp: it's not a big deal since we plan to settle that space ... so they can believe whatever they want ... add to their confusion
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.
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bawhomp: i hope you weren't counting on them for research
fe3333au: we not counting on them for anything
bawhomp: right
bawhomp: if i could only tell you some of the things we've learned
fe3333au: hmmm ... if only you could
bawhomp:

This is unacceptible ... the reports that we have been sending should have been confidential
... Therefore, I would like to know exactly what has been revealed to KISS. (perhaps send us an edited chat log)

I understand that your team is under stress, however please don't do a Donsig and just give up ... or if you do, I would like that our relationship to be kept secret for this would be the fair thing to do.

In fact could you keep us in the loop as to your team's thoughts for the game's future ... it will be most unfair if the end result is for TNT to disband everything. If this is the case, we would have to discuss the fairness of this with the moderators.


Sincerely yours

MIA.

 

[Strider]

I say we tell them the truth, tell them in pure and simple forms.. that every single one of us is extremely pissed off at them for their inaction.

To be completely honest with you, I have half a mind just to propose rushing acouple of galley's, loading them up with our remaining immortals, and attacking MIA. It is because of their inaction that we are in this situtation in the first place.

As for the whole boat incident, tell them the truth on that matter also. Half of our team is more pissed at MIA then they are at the galls!

 

[BCLG100]

tis true i did mention the boat incident to whomp however big deal, its not like its a major thing, both the nutters and KISS know the 2 seperate groups.

and there is not often i agree with you Strider of late however this is one of them, loading up the galleys however wont do much but when MIA fall we cant say we didnt tell them so.

 

[Strider]

Greekguy, what is the chance of sending a reply to set up a emergency chat with the greeks?

 

[greekguy]

Greekguy, what is the chance of sending a reply to set up a emergency chat with the greeks?

i could send one right now. i'll ask them to chat with us, so to clear up some things and get them to declare on D'Nuts.

 

[Strider]

i could send one right now. i'll ask them to chat with us, so to clear up some things and get them to declare on D'Nuts.

We could get alot more done in a 2 hour chat session, then we can in two weeks of diplomatic messages. Oddly enough.

 

[greekguy]

Just sent this message to MIA:

Dear MIA,

In response to your previous message, and since we still have some issues to discuss, my team would like to hold an emergency chat between our two nations. In this chat we can discuss any issues concerning secrecy of information and the ongoing war that threatens our country. Please respond soon with a time in which our teams can sit down and figure out the situation our countries are in and solve our collective problems.

greekguy, TNT Greek Ambassador

 

[donsig]

MIA made a decision to keep their word throughout this game. They gave their word to a 50 turn peace treaty with KISS and they will not attack KISS befire turn 267 (IIRC). You can ask, but they will say no. I've metioned to fe3333au in a chat that there is no honor in letting your little friend get beat up by the neighborhood bully but that argument does not sway them.

Realistically, they don't really care if we sink or swim. They have an excuse now to attack the Iroqi and get their Golden Age so they can prepare for the final showdown with the Galls. The Greeks simply do not need us.