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Number of official languages?
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Number of official languages?
Googling seems to show that this isn't number of official languages.
Maybe percentage of speakers using this as primary language or language-at-home in the country.
I mean anything in India and China will get drowned by the endless millions of the primary culture, while Greece (and afaik Japan and the Koreas) pretty much is mono-ethnic.
It could also be a "number of languages" (x-x1 etc) spoken there as native. Google tells me that "over 20 languages are spoken in Antarctica", which is hardly surprising, given it's not an actual country.
Maybe percentage of speakers using this as primary language or language-at-home in the country.
I mean anything in India and China will get drowned by the endless millions of the primary culture, while Greece (and afaik Japan and the Koreas) pretty much is mono-ethnic.
It could also be a "number of languages" (x-x1 etc) spoken there as native. Google tells me that "over 20 languages are spoken in Antarctica", which is hardly surprising, given it's not an actual country.
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amadeus
Bishop of Bio-Dome
Two shades of red?
no
portugal being different from brazil here is what surprised me enough to look this map up in the first place
it's not number of native or primary languages, but it does have to do with numbers
separate but related categories - and purple is a mix of both red and blue
amadeus
Bishop of Bio-Dome
I believe it has to do with how numbers are separated, then. Periods, commas, and 1000/10000.
mitsho
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My first though was the „primary secondary language“, so the first foreign language that people learn. That doesn‘t work though once you reach Africa going from right to left. So a few observations:
- The English and French colonial empire map quite well onto each other, with Canada being a mix of the two. Spanish works as well.
- However, in Northern Africa, something overrides that dichotomy. Which is Arabic, so maybe something about scripts?
- Though the Russian sphere of influence is the same shade as Arabic - not sure what to make of that:
- Interesting outliers: What does Greece have in common with the Indo-Sinosphere? Iran/Farsi is closer to the European languages than their surrounding neighbors, the Turkish and Arabic language families! And the already mentioned Portugal-Brazil divide.
If you can answer these „questions“, we will get there
My guess is: complexity of the writing script, meaning how many letters there are in the main language.
(Maybe Brazil just simplified its Portuguese a lot)
- The English and French colonial empire map quite well onto each other, with Canada being a mix of the two. Spanish works as well.
- However, in Northern Africa, something overrides that dichotomy. Which is Arabic, so maybe something about scripts?
- Though the Russian sphere of influence is the same shade as Arabic - not sure what to make of that:
- Interesting outliers: What does Greece have in common with the Indo-Sinosphere? Iran/Farsi is closer to the European languages than their surrounding neighbors, the Turkish and Arabic language families! And the already mentioned Portugal-Brazil divide.
If you can answer these „questions“, we will get there
My guess is: complexity of the writing script, meaning how many letters there are in the main language.(Maybe Brazil just simplified its Portuguese a lot
)My first though was the „primary secondary language“, so the first foreign language that people learn. That doesn‘t work though once you reach Africa going from right to left. So a few observations:
- The English and French colonial empire map quite well onto each other, with Canada being a mix of the two. Spanish works as well.
- However, in Northern Africa, something overrides that dichotomy. Which is Arabic, so maybe something about scripts?
- Though the Russian sphere of influence is the same shade as Arabic - not sure what to make of that:
- Interesting outliers: What does Greece have in common with the Indo-Sinosphere? Iran/Farsi is closer to the European languages than their surrounding neighbors, the Turkish and Arabic language families! And the already mentioned Portugal-Brazil divide.
If you can answer these „questions“, we will get there
(Maybe Brazil just simplified its Portuguese a lot
Chinese is highly unlikely to have less characters than other languages - likely has thousands. And this can't be about unique scripts either, some countries are missing (eg Georgia).
amadeus
Bishop of Bio-Dome
Vietnam uses the Roman alphabet, so it's certainly nothing to do with the number of characters in each language.
Seems to be a weird mix also with... religion?
In Europe, the divide on the east is mostly between orthodox and non-orthodox.
Can't be alphabet, because Serbia is different from Russia, and most of the other states of the same red don't use Cyrillic either.
Anglo-Saxon-whatever seems to be mostly 1 red, but the countries in Africa/Arab countries don't match and Brazil.
Purple being anglo-saxon-whatever and Europe-whatever works for Canada, and also somewhat South-Africa/Namibia.
Is this a historic map, do we need to look at a different time period?
Does Antarctica really have a colour?
In Europe, the divide on the east is mostly between orthodox and non-orthodox.
Can't be alphabet, because Serbia is different from Russia, and most of the other states of the same red don't use Cyrillic either.
Anglo-Saxon-whatever seems to be mostly 1 red, but the countries in Africa/Arab countries don't match and Brazil.
Purple being anglo-saxon-whatever and Europe-whatever works for Canada, and also somewhat South-Africa/Namibia.
Is this a historic map, do we need to look at a different time period?
Does Antarctica really have a colour?
Lohrenswald
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Billion/milliard dichotomy, the yellow ones using myriads
My guess
My guess
That is very interesting...
(for those who don't know, a milliard is 10.000. Indeed in Greek a million is 100 milliards. Word is ancient, of course, one can read it among other places in the Apocalypse as well, where 20000 milliard (200000000) monsters appear on the horizon
).
Lohrenswald
世界的 bottom ranked physicist
In all the blue countries a milliard is one thousand millionsThat is very interesting...
(for those who don't know, a milliard is 10.000. Indeed in Greek a million is 100 milliards. Word is ancient, of course, one can read it among other places in the Apocalypse as well, where 20000 milliard (200000000) monsters appear on the horizon
Myriad is what the Greek word is known in english
Lohrenswald
世界的 bottom ranked physicist
found out I'm right btw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_and_short_scales
what I like missed is the deeper red countries using in general not -lliards except milliard, and the yellow ones are only labeled "other", but I think most of them are myriad-based (I know sinosphere is, though they obviously don't use that word but it is ten thousand)
I'm swooping in declaring victory prematurely because I've made my map and just kinda want to get it out of the way
wonky projection
was planning to not include the numbers on the legend at the start but that'll probably just make it incomprehensible (also now I'm sure not to lose it lol)
what I like missed is the deeper red countries using in general not -lliards except milliard, and the yellow ones are only labeled "other", but I think most of them are myriad-based (I know sinosphere is, though they obviously don't use that word but it is ten thousand)
I'm swooping in declaring victory prematurely because I've made my map and just kinda want to get it out of the way
wonky projection
was planning to not include the numbers on the legend at the start but that'll probably just make it incomprehensible (also now I'm sure not to lose it lol)
Lohrenswald
世界的 bottom ranked physicist
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