How are those gun control laws coming along

And that is precisely the reason why we should have licensing and registration for the use of hands.

This analogy is not even valid, let alone remotely clever.
 
Notice I used the word "control" - not "ban".

Tighter regulation regarding access, every firearm must be licensed, every user must be licensed. Having a secure place to store them is mandatory and ammunition is stored separately, etc. Penalties for losing firearms, including loss the right to ever have a firearm licence again if this happens multiple times. All firearms thefts have to be reported to the police. I am sure there are lot's of other types of controls that can be put in place, that gun-experts can suggest. e.g. Each firearm must be certified at least once every 5 years, by the licence holder. The licence holder must be of good character and vetted by the police.
 
I dont even care about gun control anymore. It's one of those meaningless issues that people get hot and bothered about.
 
I dont even care about gun control anymore. It's one of those meaningless issues that people get hot and bothered about.
Until ... some random person kills someone you love ... for no apparent reason because they happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
 
Until ... some random person kills someone you love ... for no apparent reason because they happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I'm not going to live my life in fear of what could possibly happen one day and let that divide me from other people on more important issues.

Gun control as a what if is like terrorism as a what if. Stop emotionally blackmailing me.
 
I guess when I read these threads I'm just glad I live in a country where gun crime is an almost non-issue.
 
This analogy is not even valid, let alone remotely clever.
Actually, it is. You see, guns kill, so you want to ban them. Hands kill, so we want to ban them. It's just so obvious.

Until ... some random person kills someone you love ... for no apparent reason because they happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Precisely. Yet another reason to use tighter regulation regarding access, every hand must be licensed, every user must be licensed. Because they're fine until some random person kills someone you love ... for no apparent reason because they happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Those damn hands have to regulated. Yup. :yup:
 
So if marijuana is prohibited, then why aren't alcohol and tobacco also prohibited? Where did an arbitrary line get drawn up there, unlike the case for guns and hands?
 
So if marijuana is prohibited, then why aren't alcohol and tobacco also prohibited? Where did an arbitrary line get drawn up there, unlike the case for guns and hands?
You've got a good point. BAN THEM ALLLLLL!!!!
 
And that was not the point I raised. Good argumentation. Bravo, indeed.
 
Not having a gun would definitely lower the body count, though. :p

It certainly would if they didn't have a gun. Would gun control laws keep guns away from someone plotting mass murder is the question. I'll admit overall i'm sure the body count would be lower though i can't say how much so.
 
It certainly would if they didn't have a gun. Would gun control laws keep guns away from someone plotting mass murder is the question. I'll admit overall i'm sure the body count would be lower though i can't say how much so.


Gun control laws won't keep guns out of the hands of gangs and the worst hardcore violent criminals. However, many murders, particularly spree murders, are not committed by gang members or hardcore criminals. And then there's always the domestic murders. Most of which simply wouldn't be fatal without guns.

Lack of guns would not stop all murders. Just many of them.
 
Gun control laws won't keep guns out of the hands of gangs and the worst hardcore violent criminals. However, many murders, particularly spree murders, are not committed by gang members or hardcore criminals. And then there's always the domestic murders. Most of which simply wouldn't be fatal without guns.

Lack of guns would not stop all murders. Just many of them.
I doubt it would stop them. If they're really set on murdering someone, are they really going to decide "Oh, I don't have a gun, so now I love him." Heck no. The murderer just kill him with a metal pipe... or with his own hands. (Ban those damn hands! :mad:)
 
Lack of guns would not stop all murders. Just many of them.

Agreed. Non-crowd murderers would have an easier time physically and legally evading a conviction using a firearm as opposed to some sharp or blunt weapon. And those who go on killing sprees would probably spend less time meticulously planning it when they realize they have no stock of weapons to look forward to.

Unless they want to get a metal pipe and beat someone or a group of people in the face with it, cause, of course, chances are they won't get caught, and they're looking forward to jail time.
 
The murderer just kill him with a metal pipe... or with his own hands.
A metal pipe rampage. Sounds like Grand Theft Auto and not real life to me.
 
A metal pipe rampage. Sounds like Grand Theft Auto and not real life to me.
Weren't we talking about regular murders? :confused: If not, and you're going to kill a bunch of people, do you really think that gun runners can't be found? I mean, come one, has the Prohibition taught us nothing?
 
Gun control laws won't keep guns out of the hands of gangs and the worst hardcore violent criminals. However, many murders, particularly spree murders, are not committed by gang members or hardcore criminals. And then there's always the domestic murders. Most of which simply wouldn't be fatal without guns.

Lack of guns would not stop all murders. Just many of them.

Guns are the great equalizer, period. If the innocent can also have guns, they can adequetly protect themselves.

Weren't we talking about regular murders? :confused: If not, and you're going to kill a bunch of people, do you really think that gun runners can't be found? I mean, come one, has the Prohibition taught us nothing?

Indeed.
 
Guns are the great equalizer, period. If the innocent can also have guns, they can adequetly protect themselves.

I've said this before, if your in a situation in which a firing a gun to protect yourself is reasonable, taking out the gun and using it will probably more a risk to your life then just complying/hiding/running away.
 
How many people died in car accidents today? You don't see cars being outlawed.
 
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