Akka
Moody old mage.
You realize he's just throwing propaganda BS by trying to pretend that Russia actually didn't do this and it's all evil NATO conspiracy blabla ?
"China has more to lose if Russia fails, because it will be next."Britain slaps sanctions on China for ‘malicious’ cyberattacks on MPs and voters
Sanctions announced against two Chinese state actors and firm linked to regime over ‘malicious’ hacks into a ‘treasure trove’ of personal data of parliamentarians and 40 million voters – as MPs call for tougher actionwww.independent.co.uk
In same way as Russia. Interference in elections, hackers, then, presumably, poisoning will take place
When Russia fails, China will find a huge piece of prime Siberian real estate falling into its lap... some of which it used to own.China has more to lose if Russia fails, because it will be next.
What's odd about that Moscow massacre is that instead of the usual radicalised extremist wanting to go down in a blaze of glory (like school shooters in USA but with an Islamist 'manifesto' this particular attack was carried out by a bunch of desperates bribed by the group recruiting them and who fled after the attack. I don't know if there's been a similar ISIS attack in the past.
It’s pretty funny, yeah.Amazing how the delusion holds. "when Russia fails..."
Which part of NATO got militarily defeated in Ukraine have you missed?
Which part of europe's economy going into recession and Russia's continuing to grow have you missed?
And you're still pretending that Russia will fail? The projection is strong in these people!
You only know enough to parrot the state propaganda you feed on. Carry on then. By all means support your government emptying whatever remains in its warehouses into Ukraine.
Look ma! Projection irony!The projection is strong in these people!
Show us the numbers please.Which part of NATO got militarily defeated in Ukraine have you missed?
War economy is powering Russia's growth at this moment. It's not something that can be sustained for a long time, and will have consequences.Which part of europe's economy going into recession and Russia's continuing to grow have you missed?
To any reasonable person's sanity, yes.Is nafo a threat?
We Are NAFO
The history of NAFO and its expansion is quite the tale. Read about it here.nafo-ofan.org
Show us the numbers please.
War economy is powering Russia's growth at this moment. It's not something that can be sustained for a long time, and will have consequences.
You really live in an imaginary world where you have to make stuff up in order to make a point.And the ever reliable Ziggy, capable of believing on the weakness of Russia and the russian threat at the same time.
Look ma! Projection irony!The reality is neither, btw. Lies and more lies
On the economy you can look up the "western" IMF, or any number of websites. They all agree.
Moreover, you can compare Russia's ability to scale up its military industry with the total failure of all nato countries to do the same.
A comparison of industrial potential, real industry not GDP, was enough to predict the outcome of this war at the start. Digital derivatives do not produce war material. Industrial workers and inputs do.
Precision is a factor there. Dropping 3 tons bombs near a trench defended by five people doesn't have the same effect as thousands of small tungsten fragment in a shell exploding right over a few dozen of soldiers in a training camp.On the war you will simply keep believing the propaganda until Ukraine fully collapses. But look at the verified past and judge the performance of the news you consume. The abject failure of the "couteroffensive" was buried in those news. Either no numbers presented about casualties and materiel losses. Or where they were presented, they were ridiculous, made up. In any modern war the side dropping the most explosives on the other side causes the most casualties. Even only looking at the ration of explosives used by either side allows for a check on the numbers being put forward by either side. There was projection all right: wherever Ukraine (NATO, actually) claimed it was killing 10x more russian soldiers, the ration of explosives used was the reverse - and that much was acknowleged because it was necessary to justify continuing to transfer more stocks to ukraine. Then how could thh casualty ration be against Russia? It couldn't, it was a lie. The reality is what is only now being talked about, Ukraine is running out of men because it was the side suffering horrendous losses in the front lines.
But no one talked about that for two years in western media, as far as I could see. Verbotten. The narrative was always that the russians were losing many more troops than the ukranians. A lie from the start, and a lie deployed to justify refusing to negotiate, to justify carrying on with the war and continuing to recruit more ukranians to make up for the losses. Fear not, do not flee from the draft for we are winning. It was a lie targeting first and foremost the ukranian population. For "morale". But the false numbers were simply echoed in western media, and with a purpose there also. To justify "continued support" and the refusal to enter negotiations. And by people who did know better (like generals doing the rounds on TV for commentary). And you fell for it, and will now have trouble with the change in narrative that is being operated just now.
Government propaganda in western Europe has shifted from weak Russia ready to crumble, to Russia being a threat to western Europe. Look at what that phony, Macron, is saying: it is government propaganda.
The world must brace for a long war between Russia and Ukraine after Moscow launched an invasion of its pro-Western neighbour, French President Emmanuel Macron warned on Saturday.
"I can tell you one thing this morning it is that this war will last," Macron's told France's annual agriculture fair.
"This crisis will last, this war will last and all the crises that come with it will have lasting consequences," Macron added, warning: "We must be prepared".
"There is an imminent need of a stronger NATO presence in our region," Estonia's Foreign Minister Urmas Reinsalu said. Russia "is an existential threat particularly to our region countries, but in a broader sense to all Europe."
So, as a plebe who is served "news, which is true, is russia a gas station with nukes? Or is Russia the biggest military power in the continent about to roll over NATO if the draft isn't reintroduced in western countries?
The reality is neither, btw. Lies and more lies, that is what the population is served. I do think most people no longer believe anything they are served. There is and will be a minority of true believes, the professional classes occuping confy management jobs. Who are actually the incompetents dragging Europe down. The ones who wasted european industries because finance was more profitable. The ones unable to set up any war economy because their whole experience is of extracting rens from an economy. The ones who voraciously consume "media" to pretend to be up-to-date and knowlegeble about the world. The last ones to be deceived by flimsy propaganda. @Wastl above privides a perfect example abpout the "well informed" deceived classes. And the ever reliable Ziggy, capable of believing on the weakness of Russia and the russian threat at the same time.
There is a whiff of the 1780s about.