Symphony D.
Deity
What a silly question. It's only BT when major wars end, ya fool. 
That's pretty obvious from the last few ones.
That's pretty obvious from the last few ones.
ITNES I - An Epoch of Change
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Yeah, who would want a BT now with all the fun we're having??
Symphony D.
Deity
That's what saying "Useless post to get thread to next page," is for. Furthermore putting the update at the top of the page serves no function when a link can be structured to always display it as the first post. In short: mission failed.
Furthermore putting the update at the top of the page serves no function when a link can be structured to always display it as the first post. In short: mission failed.
das
Regeneration In Process
IT IV Update 10 - Years 445-450 AD
Non-Military Events:
In an increasingly alarming and still surprising series of events, the world seems to be reverting into a comparatively peaceful state. *shudders*
(see spotlight)
(+1 Parhaen, Phoenician Confidence, +1 Dacoillyrian, Dukunnugeyan Prestige)
The gradual spread of new age technologic knowledge continues, affecting Dacoillyria, Nadruvia and Phoenicia in particular, and most other Old World countries to a lesser extent.
Despite the plague (see random events), the Mississippian trade network of the Algonquians survives and even flourishes. Many of the Miami tribes have been integrated into the Confederation, largely thanks to the trade and the cultural exchange that followed.
The Nortuguese colonial empire - most importantly the burgeoning colony of Erezina[1] - continues to be consolidated and developed, with sudden Dukunnugeyan assistance (in exchange for lowered tariffs and trade rights).
Huancac's trade-encouraging policies and projects bring considerable profit.
Dukunnugeyan colonial ventures in Nirritihariya procede evenly and mostly without any real clashes with the natives.
Luigeyan missionaries/monks help spread the Nevasanghist faith in the New World, especially in Tavytera (they make a lesser appearence in Europe and West Africa as well).
Religious strife in Wenedia grows, especially due to the clashes between the Tarunists and the Solists; several xenophobic revivalist movements in the native polytheism also emerge. The Nevasanghists become particularily influential in the rapidly-urbanising, multiethnic, mercantilistic northwest coast (the "Nizozemska"[2]).
As peace comes to the Bimarine Basin, the general commercial upsurge continues and spreads (+1 Trade to all nations in the region).
Nevasanghists keep growing in number and influence in Onoghuria, as both the Khagan and the Dukunnugeyan embassy encourage them. They had also become influential in Ugria via both former Turan and Bulgharia.
After a royal marriage, Ugria's King Irnik II surprisingly enough stayed in Bulghar, where he socialised, studied the Onoghurian system of government extensively and participated in military maneuvers. And even in a little war (see military events). This impaired his positions in Ugria itself (-1 Confidence, Efficiency), but allowed him to forge closer ties with the greater world (+1 Prestige), and particularily with Onoghuria; rumours had already spread quite far that Irnik had reached a secret agreement with the Khagan that would effectively unite the two East European states into a single empire, though little detail is available to the outer world.
Despite a sudden Wagadou ultimatum demanding that Dacoillyria vacate North Africa, the Dacoillyrian refusal to do so failed to provoke as much as a border clash.
Not terribly interested in administrating and defending vast stretches of desert, the elderly Ghana Sumbrike I - 'the Conqueror' - made a somewhat uncharacteristic gesture, retreating from vast swathes of far northern Berber desertlands and handing over the power over many of his Berber territories to a native ruler; ofcourse, said ruler - .
The mercantile Tigrada League - or, at least, its individual city-state members - quickly prosper with their far-flung trade network and fruitful cooperation with Sri Dukunnugeya. Despite some die-hard Indian separatists still opposing this cooperation and integration (-1 Confidence), the League seems to be rapidly reconciling and building up good working relations with Sindhu's triumphant enemies and other nations in the area (+1 Prestige).
An attempt to create a new Khoisan confederation has collapsed, possibly due to Dukunnugeyan interference.
Bitter revanchism simmers in Luca in the wake of the peace treaty; many semilegal and illegal pamphleteers claim that the Lucans were "stabbed in the back" by a) the corrupt officials, b) the greedy merchants, c) the evil/possessed/brainwashed Sultan, d) any of various erect short-legged flightless aquatic birds (family Spheniscidae) of the southern hemisphere and/or e) the treacherous Dacoillyrians. Meanwhile economic recovery is somewhat hampered by high crime rates as levied troops return to impoverished homes. Luca remains in a poor and shaken state (-1 Confidence).
Phoenicia begins to rebuild its trade network.
As integration of Tinhtunam and India continues and the nonacentennial of the Empire arrives, Khmeria is renamed into the Oceanic Empire, and its capital is moved to Singapura, a more central position with great potential; this represents both the supraethnic properties of the empire and its formidable sea power (although in that field Nihon has been growing disturbingly competitive lately, only slightly lagging behind in the naval race). The Empire is now at its peak, and Empress Aya Aidan is free to abdicate with the feeling of a work well done (+1 Confidence, +1 Prestige). Her successor, Empress Ammara Vy Chan, soon lended support to the emergent philosophy/religion of Totalism, a strange mix of rationalism and panentheism that is quick in gaining support despite it being very young and perhaps a bit too complex.
The Aboriginal Confederation of southern Tinhtunam has agreed to peacefully join this aforesaid Oceanic Empire (after some negotiations), completing the unification of the huge island.
Military Events:
Nihon made violent progress in all directions in Wakai[3], though overstretchment and native hostility do not bode well for future scuh leaps of expansion. Some more progress was achieved in the last Nahuan lands, far to the southeast.
(-2 Nihonese thousands, -2 Nihonese Samurai thousand)
The Nortuguese lost some past gains in the New World to the resurgent Naskapi tribes.
The Nihonese continued to plow through the last free Olmec lands, facing fierce, fanatical resistance and hit-and-run attacks out of the blue (or, rather, out of the green). Progress is frustratingly slow, consequently.
(-1 Nihonese thousand, -1 Nihonese Samurai thousand)
The Huanc made many gains against the Caribs in their steady advance.
(-2 Huanc thousands)
As rumours spread of the Grandfather's death - or, at least, fatal illness - a new set of rebellions (and mutinies - -5 Tavyteran thousands) had to be crushed in Tavytera; fortunately the loyal forces acted quickly enough and prevented an actual civil war. Still, though the Grandfather apparently still lives, his death in the next few years is pretty much inevitable.
(-5 Tavyteran thousands, -3 Tavyteran Guarini thousands)
The Atlantic War continued rather awkwardly after Caledonian High King Crinan wrote an angry letter to Dumnorix Caethaldius and stabbed himself to death with a knife. Surrounded by a generally hostile population, pulled into different directions by various leaders and generals and tempted by Nordrikian promises of amnesty for those who surrender, the Caledonian army soon collapsed; most of it deserted and/or surrendered, but many of them attacked either the Iceni, or the Nordrikians, or other Caledonians. Some factions were ideologically or religiously driven, others were led by charismatic opportunists trying to make the most of their opportunity; in any case, none of them were terribly powerful, and so didn't last long. Caledonia's last forces in Dal'Riata made a defiant stance, and were duly exsanguinated. However, Nortugal's peculiar passivity and Nordrike's unwillingness to take the naval initiative allowed the Pact of Invictus to transport a huge (barely-supplyable) army to Alba (using the comparatively-safe Alban Channel). The awful coordination between the various anti-Solist coalition members showed itself all too well in the 447-450 campaign. The Solist fleet blocked the New Worlder one, making the planned invasion of southeastern Iceni Empire impossible as long as the Nortuguese procrastinated (and that was just about all they did during this campaign) impossible; and when the Solist army's presence became apparent that plan was fully scrapped, yet it was too late for the Algonquian-Wabanaki army that tried to invade Cymru. After defeating the rebuilt Cymrese fleet and barely fighting their way through the border fortifications, the invaders were confronted by the main Solist army and routed, fighting their way back towards their ships. This did however distract the Solists considerably, while the main Iceni army was routed at Lindum. Much of the remainder retreated to and was besieged in Caer Deva. The grand Solist army finally clashed decisively with the Nordrikian one in the Battle of Caer Deva in late 449, after a series of skirmishes and battles in eastern and central Icenia; both those battles and Caer Deva ultimately went in Solist favour, but just barely so, largely thanks to their superior numbers and cavalry tactics. Between the sallying Iceni troops and the charging Gauls, the offending Nordrikian army was almost entirely destroyed, but the Solists too were weakened considerably, and so were unable to press their advantage, especially when it became clear that no serious rebellion was forthcoming in Caledonia.
(-Caledonia as an independent nation, -7 Algonquian thousands, -5 Wabanaki Brothers of the Cross thousands, -4 Algonquian ships, -5 Wabanaki ships, -12 Gaelic thousands, -7 Gaelic Equites Invictii thousands, -26 Nordrikian thousands, -12 Nordrikian Berserkir thousands, -7 Roman Royal Guard thousands, -6 Cymrese thousands, -3 Cymrese levy thousands, -8 Cymrese ships, -11 Iceni thousands, -7 Iceni Sons of Sol thousands, -14 Iceni levy thousands)
Confused by the general diplomatic situation and his government's orders, the Nortuguese commander at Kalpa finally agreed to abandon the fortress to the Dacoillyrians (who had by then marshalled an army six times larger than his own in aforesaid stronghold's proximity), and instead moved to Gadir[4], which by then not only fell to the Punic Iberian rebels, but also became their last serious stronghold. Joining forces with the rebels (+8 Nortuguese levy thousands), the Nortuguese beat back the Gauls (who were now slightly outnumbered, though not outmatched) in a series of hard-fought battles and skirmishes, hoping that in case Dorius I did indeed originally intend to hang on to Kalpa he - General Aurolius - had redeemed himself here. Meanwhile, more Punic rebellions begun to spring up as word spread of the southern victory (how ever limited).
(-4 Nortuguese thousands, -3 Nortuguese levy thousands, -9 Gaelic thousands)
Upon signing peace with Dacoillyria, the Onoghurians begun redeploying their forces north. For some time now they had observed the ascendancy of the militant Mordvin Empire, but only now were they - and their faithful Ugrian allies - ready to strike. Somewhat controversially, the invasion's supreme commander was none other than Irnik II, King of the Ugrians. Still, he proved a pretty effective commander; using the oddly-unready and unconcentrated state of the Mordvin army, he led the Bulghars to a series of minor tactical victories on the border - and then to a sudden strategic masterstroke, laying siege around Valdakva, the Mordvin capital. Although miscommunication - or perhaps treason - prevented the Cernorusians from coming to assist their allies, the Ugrians did not abandon their monarch, and instead attacked with vigour, securing several far eastern Mordvin cities, including the trade center of Mihasary (-1 Mordvin Trade, +1 Ugrian banked eco.). They then used their formidable riverine fleet and rebellions amongst the eastern Ugrians (more related to the Archalite Ugrians than to the Mordvin ones) to secure the northern bank of Itil. Though a year later the Mordvins literally cut off and crushed the main Ugrian force (negating most of the later gains), it proved a considerable distraction; it wasn't enough for the Onoghurians to take the exquisitely well-fortified and surprisingly well-supplied Mordvin capital, but it did allow them to brace themselves and eventually beat back the attackers, tightening the ring around Valdakva whilst making a few gains further north as well. Though other wars may be ending, this one is only beginning.
(-36 Mordvin thousands, -4 Mordvin Kantir thousands, -27 Onoghurian thousands, -3 Onoghurian Onoghurets thousands, -24 Ugrian thousands, -1 Ugrian ship)
As if solely to prove that they have not abandoned their conquering ways after the concessions in Berberia, the Wagadou invaded and quickly overran the lands of the few remaining independent Mande tribes. The conquered area was quickly integrated into the Empire.
(-2 Wagadou thousands)
Steadily the Lucans had expelled the Berbers from the slightly, if painfully, shrunken Lucan North African colonial empire.
(-1 Lucan thousand, -1 Lucan Companion Cavalry thousands)
As soon as the Lucans vacated Egypt (see spotlight) the region briefly collapsed into chaos... but was brought out of it by a dual Nubian and Phoenician intervention. Though the Nubians seemed to have some designs on nearby Egyptian territory, they were ultimately dissuaded by the Phoenicians, and appeased when Khufu, the wealthy and charismatic nobleman that the Phoenicians picked to be the new Pharaoh, agreed to marry a Nubian princess. Still, there was some fighting to be done before the various petty warlords were pacified.
(-2 Phoenician thousands, -2 Nubian thousands, -1 Egyptian thousand)
After that, the Nubians and the Egypto-Phoenicians initiated two separate westwards campaigns to subdue the (fortunately-weakened) Berbers and Furians. Employing camelry and local defectors (+2 Egyptian, +5 Nubian levy thousands), the invaders quickly advanced through the desert, securing key points. The Nubian carrot and stick and divide and conquer tactics soon allowed Marsis to finally reclaim Nubia's far west; though the Egyptians had a harder time of it, both due to better Berber organisation and due to their insistance on massacring entire tribes in revenge for the Nile invasion, they too had with time more-or-less reclaimed their old lands, though they did have to scale down their avenging activities.
(-1 Phoenician thousand, -3 Egyptian thousands, -2 Nubian thousands, -2 Nubian levy thousands)
In a slightly surprising development, the Nsigeyans now turned to the northwest for expansion, attacking the increasingly-advanced and united - and thus dangerous - Bantu tribes there. Despite fanatical resistance the Nsigeyans had put their military experience to good use, and made considerable gains.
(-6 Nsigeyan thousands)
Lucan rebellions took place - both in Luca itself (where anti-peace riots often went out of hand) and in the newly-gained Parhaen and Phoenician territories, where Lucan deserters that stayed to fight on proved particularily annoying (-2 Lucan thousands, -3 Lucan Companion Cavalry thousands). Still, the Lucans restored order comparatively quickly, and the Parhaen/Phoenician forces, though taken somewhat aback, eventually crushed the rebels or forced them into the hiding as well.
(-1 Lucan thousand, -2 Phoenician thousands, -3 Parhaen thousands)
A grand Parhaen army, freed up by the Treaty of Byblos, invaded Arabia, where the rebellion continued to escalate. Despite poor Parhaen logistics and crafty Israeli tactics that caused outrageously-high casualties, the Parhaens overrun the rebels with sheer numbers and ruthlessness, "pacifying" oasis after oasis. By now the rebellion has been all but crippled, except in a barren area to the southeast where the last rebel forces had gathered.
(-7 Parhaen thousands, -7 Parhaen Eternal Legions)
Numerous isolated Indian uprisings have been crushed by the Oceanics/Khmers over the years; most of these were done by warbands and peasants, and never posed a real threat, but a conspiracy of the some of the Gangetic lords actually scored notable local successes until most of its leadership was literally decapitated and the main Oceanic forces arrived; the rebellion was crushed soon after, but it may well be merely a prelude to a greater rising. Several lesser conspiracies - including one in Kalinga itself - have been nipped more-or-less in the bud.
(-2 Oceanic thousands)
Random Events:
The Cernorusians are exultant over their recent victories (+1 Cernorusian Confidence).
Colonisation of Tinhtunam and Kaodin picks up pace (+1 Khmer Economy).
Promises of war, plunder and prestige draw in many more Berber volunteers into the Wagadou camelry, in spite (or perhaps even because) of the concessions in Berberia (+10 Wagadou UU).
Rumours about "inquisitionary excesses" and religious repression in Gaul spread widely amongst the world's trade centers, especially thanks to the Nevasanghist Gaelic refugees and merchants (-1 Gaelic Prestige).
Storms tear at the somewhat-neglected Parhaen fleet (-10 Parhaen ships).
An outbreak of bubonic plague (not quite as bad as the pandemics of a few decades ago, but still pretty nasty) occurs in Algonquia, reaching into borderline Wabanaki, Nortuguese and Adenan territories to a lesser extent (-1 Algonquian Economy).
Special Bonuses:
Best Stories: Oceanic Empire (+1 project progress).
Most Persistant: Dacoillyrian Empire (+1 Confidence).
Earliest Orders: Mordvin Empire (+1 Efficiency).
Spotlight:
Dawn of Peace.
"That wave which has risen must recede."
- Zeimocles, Dacoillyrian poet. Year 378 AD.
The world was never a particularily peaceful place, and nothing ever changed that. But there were some ages that were more warful[5], and some that were comparatively peaceful and serene.
The 5th Century, for instance, was thus far one of the bloodiest and violent centuries known to man, matched only by this era's 1st Century. From its very start, vicious wars raged; at first, the comparatively small-scale elimination of Guangala, Hellas and Brigantea - weak and isolated states that were unable to defend themselves or to find war allies; but later, the bigger wars begun as well, raging for decades, with millions dead and some of the world's greatest cities depopulated and razed. And though the 1st Century saw a greater percentage of destruction and death, there were more soldiers in the armies nowadays, more ships in the fleets and more innocent bystanders in the cities.
In the New World, one of the world's most ancient empires, Olmecia, had simply ceased to be under the pressure of many factors and unfortunate events; so had younger states like Aztlan and Guangala. And meanwhile, greater colonial empires arose; and if the Dukunnugeyan one was based on trade, diplomacy and proselytism, then the Nortuguese one is most famous for the infamous "death-marches" of the Nortuguese army that slaughtered all who dared come in its path, clearing the path for future colonists. And the colonial competition, though only really spilling out into warfare once, has also often been as brutal as any war.
In the Atlantic, the fighting is still not over now, in 450 AD. The struggle between the Nortuguese (and allied) and Carthaginian fleets may be over, but the Nortuguese still do have to fight in their quest for Atlantic hegemony, and there seems to be no real end in sight; though the Nortuguese keep sinking Solist fleets, the Pact Invictus keeps rebuilding them, and getting more and more audacious, whereas the Nortuguese seem to be growing tired, especially after their very homeland was briefly invaded and thoroughly devastated.
In northern Europe, things were little better. Brigantea and Tarunia were destroyed quickly enough, and the empires of Caledonia, Nordrike and Mordvinia gained ascendancy. The former wasted its time and resources in a fruitless war with the Iceni Empire, and later was weakened enough for it to be defeated by the Nordrikians, who even now fight the Solist world in alliance with Nortugal. And meanwhile, the Mordvin Empire itself recently came under attack. Further south, Frankreich was twice destroyed, and Wenedia rose to prominence; east of that, Cernorus fought first the Wenedians and now the Dacoillyrians, the latter more succesfully and in alliance with another rising power - the Onoghurian Bulgharia. But to it we will come back later.
Africa saw states and empires rise to consume lesser tribes and protostates, occasionally imploding, whilst the great colonial empires - Sri Dukunnugeya and Nortugal, after the fall of Carthage - expanded to their leisure, occasionally picking up the pieces. And Egypt once again was a battlefield for various foreign invasions and local factions, as seems to be its fate in every such era.
In the Indian Ocean, a trully dramatic war occured, for Sindhu - formerly Aryavarta, formerly Kalinga - had finally decided to reconquer Sri Dukunnugeya, which had by then become a great power in its own right. And that immediately got Sindhu into a war with a wide coalition of virtually all of its neighbours. Parhaen and Tieh Chinese forces overran the Indus Valley, the Khmers inspired a rebellion in Kalinga and entered the Gangetic Plain and the Dukunnugeyans attacked in Africa, whilst the Sindhese fleet was wiped out in an epic naval campaign. The Far East was actually in peace, but that was probably because the Khmers were expanding to the south and the southwest, the Tieh Chinese reached westwards to partition Turan in Central Asia (with Ugria and Bulgharia), and the Nihonese were building one of the three most important New World colonial empires.
And yet, the world seems to be moving towards peace - whether out of exhaustion, overstretchment or satisfaction, or even moral reasons. For the New World seems to be mostly partitioned by now, with numerous treaties and accords reached between the colonial powers and between them and all the surviving natives. Though the less organised tribes and confederacies still do often become targets for Old World and New World states alike, they aren't capable of fighting proper, large-scale wars. And in the meantime, as the local populations recovered from the plague and native states begun to catch up technologically, the trade network was repaired and reinvigorated. In northern Europe, the Solists and their enemies alike seem to be increasingly exhausted, having already played many of the cards in their decks. In Africa, states and empires are consolidating. And the Sindhese Empire was already carved up between the victors, with several previous and current territorial and border agreements minimising cause for strife, at least for now.
But perhaps the most sure sign is that peace has come to the area where it was least expected - to the Bimarine Basin of the Transpoenic and Mediterranean Seas. It was never the most stable of regions, because of the destabilising and unbalancing power of Carthage, which time and again fought back grand coalitions assembled against it in the so-called Transpoenic Wars that after a while begun spilling out much further than that. The last such war - the Sixth Transpoenic War - was fought as far west as the Carib Sea, and saw lots of diplomatic maneuvering and military daring. By its end, Carthage was destroyed altogether, but a new hegemon power arose, in a way more powerful than Carthage ever was. Dacoillyria operated through alliances, trade networks and control over the strategic points all over the Bimarine to assert its power, eventually creating the highly-controversial Mediterranean Trading League, which endeavoured to optimise trade in the area - and exclude from it the various "rogue" states both within and outside of the Basin. One such state was Nortugal, against which Dacoillyria fought a phoney war in the Pillars of Hercules until the Nortuguese made it a real one and captured Kalpa, the northern Pillar. Another was Phoenicia, which Luca and Dacoillyria had attacked... and ended up in a scenario similar to the Sindhese one, as Egypt, Nubia, some Berber tribes, Khmeria, Onoghuria, Cernorus and Alania all eventually ganged up on the two, whilst their Solist allies were busy fighting Nortugal. Although the military situation didn't look so bad - or rather, both sides had some catastrophes - economically the League's situation was much worse, for the Basin was under a virtual blockade - with the Nortuguese holding one exit, the Khmers and Phoenicians blocking another and the Onoghurians barring way even into the Black Sea and its rivers. And so, after some bitter negotiations, a peace agreement was reached - the mercantilistic considerations winning over national pride, the cooler heads prevailing over the war hawks. The Dacoillyrians withdrew from the Sile Canal and ceded their lands east of the Nistru to Cernorus. The Lucans had it even harder - they withdrew from Egypt and Cyreneica, ceded Nova Nagara (to become the Free City of Didonia) and surrendered all the lands east of the Anatolian Wall to Parhae, Alania and Phoenicia; they also ceded Bosporan to Onoghuria, but quickly bought most of it back. A non-aggression pact was signed, and multilateral correlational military limitations were put into place. Reparations were paid to Phoenicia. The Council of Bimarine was assembled in Didonia to prevent future wars.
All that was controversial; in Luca, it was particularily hated. But here, too, all the sides involved were tired and unwilling to fight such an unprofitable war. And so, for the first time since the beginning of the century (when the Dacoillyrian quest for domination begun with the invasion of Hellas), peace dawns upon the Bimarine Basin.
And for better or worse, the same seems to be happening or about to happen elsewhere in the world. The chaos that swept away the old world order is receding, and a new world order is finally taking a tangible shape. The present war-cycle is drawing to a close, and the time to lick up the wounds and consolidate the gains has apparently arrived.
Then again, such guesses rarely turn out to be correct...
NPC Diplo:
OOC:
[1] Erezina is, at least, the popular name for OTL Carolina.
[2] "Nizozemska" or something similar to that means "Low Lands" or "Nether Lands" in most dialects of Wenedian.
[3] Wakai=OTL Oregon as per the original geographic definition (i.e. including OTL British Columbia).
[4] Gadir=OTL Cadiz.
[5] Neologism (or just archaism? or maybe obscurism?) for the opposite of "peaceful".
ThomAnder, should the agreement have been an officially-announced one? You never did clarify that.
Once again, sorry about any confusion or misinterpretation; I cite the same excuse I used the last turn, though. In IT orders, unlike in BT ones, vagueness is rarely if ever a virtue.
...And I know that a spotlight is more of a general summary (and a rushed one at that), for the most part. Meh, the world really does seem to be heading into Boring Times...
Speaking of those, there are several options here as I'm in one of those vacillating states again. The logical thing to do now or a turn later is indeed to start a BT, but, on one hand, there still are some issues to resolve, and some new wars might spring up as well; so perhaps there might be some point to continuing the IT for a while longer. And on a completely different hand (probably not a legit expression, that) I have had some mild disenchantment with the setting again lately, and perhaps more importantly I have SEVERAL different modernish (as in, early 20th century; I know that's not how many of you define "modern times") NES ideas (including even a real historical one, though I'm contemplating adding in a minor, but rather unlikely twist to make NESer insanity easier to explain away). They will take some time to develop, but (and that is yet another problem) I again am having unexpected free time issues, and may have to make a brief break from modding anyway (more specifically I may have to skip the next week as well - I really hate doing this, especially as it won't be the first time I've done that in this NES, but on the other hand many of you seem to be on busy/away anyway). So, yes, I again am having trouble making up my mind here, and so you may consider me open to advice.
Non-Military Events:
In an increasingly alarming and still surprising series of events, the world seems to be reverting into a comparatively peaceful state. *shudders*
(see spotlight)
(+1 Parhaen, Phoenician Confidence, +1 Dacoillyrian, Dukunnugeyan Prestige)
The gradual spread of new age technologic knowledge continues, affecting Dacoillyria, Nadruvia and Phoenicia in particular, and most other Old World countries to a lesser extent.
Despite the plague (see random events), the Mississippian trade network of the Algonquians survives and even flourishes. Many of the Miami tribes have been integrated into the Confederation, largely thanks to the trade and the cultural exchange that followed.
The Nortuguese colonial empire - most importantly the burgeoning colony of Erezina[1] - continues to be consolidated and developed, with sudden Dukunnugeyan assistance (in exchange for lowered tariffs and trade rights).
Huancac's trade-encouraging policies and projects bring considerable profit.
Dukunnugeyan colonial ventures in Nirritihariya procede evenly and mostly without any real clashes with the natives.
Luigeyan missionaries/monks help spread the Nevasanghist faith in the New World, especially in Tavytera (they make a lesser appearence in Europe and West Africa as well).
Religious strife in Wenedia grows, especially due to the clashes between the Tarunists and the Solists; several xenophobic revivalist movements in the native polytheism also emerge. The Nevasanghists become particularily influential in the rapidly-urbanising, multiethnic, mercantilistic northwest coast (the "Nizozemska"[2]).
As peace comes to the Bimarine Basin, the general commercial upsurge continues and spreads (+1 Trade to all nations in the region).
Nevasanghists keep growing in number and influence in Onoghuria, as both the Khagan and the Dukunnugeyan embassy encourage them. They had also become influential in Ugria via both former Turan and Bulgharia.
After a royal marriage, Ugria's King Irnik II surprisingly enough stayed in Bulghar, where he socialised, studied the Onoghurian system of government extensively and participated in military maneuvers. And even in a little war (see military events). This impaired his positions in Ugria itself (-1 Confidence, Efficiency), but allowed him to forge closer ties with the greater world (+1 Prestige), and particularily with Onoghuria; rumours had already spread quite far that Irnik had reached a secret agreement with the Khagan that would effectively unite the two East European states into a single empire, though little detail is available to the outer world.
Despite a sudden Wagadou ultimatum demanding that Dacoillyria vacate North Africa, the Dacoillyrian refusal to do so failed to provoke as much as a border clash.
Not terribly interested in administrating and defending vast stretches of desert, the elderly Ghana Sumbrike I - 'the Conqueror' - made a somewhat uncharacteristic gesture, retreating from vast swathes of far northern Berber desertlands and handing over the power over many of his Berber territories to a native ruler; ofcourse, said ruler - .
The mercantile Tigrada League - or, at least, its individual city-state members - quickly prosper with their far-flung trade network and fruitful cooperation with Sri Dukunnugeya. Despite some die-hard Indian separatists still opposing this cooperation and integration (-1 Confidence), the League seems to be rapidly reconciling and building up good working relations with Sindhu's triumphant enemies and other nations in the area (+1 Prestige).
An attempt to create a new Khoisan confederation has collapsed, possibly due to Dukunnugeyan interference.
Bitter revanchism simmers in Luca in the wake of the peace treaty; many semilegal and illegal pamphleteers claim that the Lucans were "stabbed in the back" by a) the corrupt officials, b) the greedy merchants, c) the evil/possessed/brainwashed Sultan, d) any of various erect short-legged flightless aquatic birds (family Spheniscidae) of the southern hemisphere and/or e) the treacherous Dacoillyrians. Meanwhile economic recovery is somewhat hampered by high crime rates as levied troops return to impoverished homes. Luca remains in a poor and shaken state (-1 Confidence).
Phoenicia begins to rebuild its trade network.
As integration of Tinhtunam and India continues and the nonacentennial of the Empire arrives, Khmeria is renamed into the Oceanic Empire, and its capital is moved to Singapura, a more central position with great potential; this represents both the supraethnic properties of the empire and its formidable sea power (although in that field Nihon has been growing disturbingly competitive lately, only slightly lagging behind in the naval race). The Empire is now at its peak, and Empress Aya Aidan is free to abdicate with the feeling of a work well done (+1 Confidence, +1 Prestige). Her successor, Empress Ammara Vy Chan, soon lended support to the emergent philosophy/religion of Totalism, a strange mix of rationalism and panentheism that is quick in gaining support despite it being very young and perhaps a bit too complex.
The Aboriginal Confederation of southern Tinhtunam has agreed to peacefully join this aforesaid Oceanic Empire (after some negotiations), completing the unification of the huge island.
Military Events:
Nihon made violent progress in all directions in Wakai[3], though overstretchment and native hostility do not bode well for future scuh leaps of expansion. Some more progress was achieved in the last Nahuan lands, far to the southeast.
(-2 Nihonese thousands, -2 Nihonese Samurai thousand)
The Nortuguese lost some past gains in the New World to the resurgent Naskapi tribes.
The Nihonese continued to plow through the last free Olmec lands, facing fierce, fanatical resistance and hit-and-run attacks out of the blue (or, rather, out of the green). Progress is frustratingly slow, consequently.
(-1 Nihonese thousand, -1 Nihonese Samurai thousand)
The Huanc made many gains against the Caribs in their steady advance.
(-2 Huanc thousands)
As rumours spread of the Grandfather's death - or, at least, fatal illness - a new set of rebellions (and mutinies - -5 Tavyteran thousands) had to be crushed in Tavytera; fortunately the loyal forces acted quickly enough and prevented an actual civil war. Still, though the Grandfather apparently still lives, his death in the next few years is pretty much inevitable.
(-5 Tavyteran thousands, -3 Tavyteran Guarini thousands)
The Atlantic War continued rather awkwardly after Caledonian High King Crinan wrote an angry letter to Dumnorix Caethaldius and stabbed himself to death with a knife. Surrounded by a generally hostile population, pulled into different directions by various leaders and generals and tempted by Nordrikian promises of amnesty for those who surrender, the Caledonian army soon collapsed; most of it deserted and/or surrendered, but many of them attacked either the Iceni, or the Nordrikians, or other Caledonians. Some factions were ideologically or religiously driven, others were led by charismatic opportunists trying to make the most of their opportunity; in any case, none of them were terribly powerful, and so didn't last long. Caledonia's last forces in Dal'Riata made a defiant stance, and were duly exsanguinated. However, Nortugal's peculiar passivity and Nordrike's unwillingness to take the naval initiative allowed the Pact of Invictus to transport a huge (barely-supplyable) army to Alba (using the comparatively-safe Alban Channel). The awful coordination between the various anti-Solist coalition members showed itself all too well in the 447-450 campaign. The Solist fleet blocked the New Worlder one, making the planned invasion of southeastern Iceni Empire impossible as long as the Nortuguese procrastinated (and that was just about all they did during this campaign) impossible; and when the Solist army's presence became apparent that plan was fully scrapped, yet it was too late for the Algonquian-Wabanaki army that tried to invade Cymru. After defeating the rebuilt Cymrese fleet and barely fighting their way through the border fortifications, the invaders were confronted by the main Solist army and routed, fighting their way back towards their ships. This did however distract the Solists considerably, while the main Iceni army was routed at Lindum. Much of the remainder retreated to and was besieged in Caer Deva. The grand Solist army finally clashed decisively with the Nordrikian one in the Battle of Caer Deva in late 449, after a series of skirmishes and battles in eastern and central Icenia; both those battles and Caer Deva ultimately went in Solist favour, but just barely so, largely thanks to their superior numbers and cavalry tactics. Between the sallying Iceni troops and the charging Gauls, the offending Nordrikian army was almost entirely destroyed, but the Solists too were weakened considerably, and so were unable to press their advantage, especially when it became clear that no serious rebellion was forthcoming in Caledonia.
(-Caledonia as an independent nation, -7 Algonquian thousands, -5 Wabanaki Brothers of the Cross thousands, -4 Algonquian ships, -5 Wabanaki ships, -12 Gaelic thousands, -7 Gaelic Equites Invictii thousands, -26 Nordrikian thousands, -12 Nordrikian Berserkir thousands, -7 Roman Royal Guard thousands, -6 Cymrese thousands, -3 Cymrese levy thousands, -8 Cymrese ships, -11 Iceni thousands, -7 Iceni Sons of Sol thousands, -14 Iceni levy thousands)
Confused by the general diplomatic situation and his government's orders, the Nortuguese commander at Kalpa finally agreed to abandon the fortress to the Dacoillyrians (who had by then marshalled an army six times larger than his own in aforesaid stronghold's proximity), and instead moved to Gadir[4], which by then not only fell to the Punic Iberian rebels, but also became their last serious stronghold. Joining forces with the rebels (+8 Nortuguese levy thousands), the Nortuguese beat back the Gauls (who were now slightly outnumbered, though not outmatched) in a series of hard-fought battles and skirmishes, hoping that in case Dorius I did indeed originally intend to hang on to Kalpa he - General Aurolius - had redeemed himself here. Meanwhile, more Punic rebellions begun to spring up as word spread of the southern victory (how ever limited).
(-4 Nortuguese thousands, -3 Nortuguese levy thousands, -9 Gaelic thousands)
Upon signing peace with Dacoillyria, the Onoghurians begun redeploying their forces north. For some time now they had observed the ascendancy of the militant Mordvin Empire, but only now were they - and their faithful Ugrian allies - ready to strike. Somewhat controversially, the invasion's supreme commander was none other than Irnik II, King of the Ugrians. Still, he proved a pretty effective commander; using the oddly-unready and unconcentrated state of the Mordvin army, he led the Bulghars to a series of minor tactical victories on the border - and then to a sudden strategic masterstroke, laying siege around Valdakva, the Mordvin capital. Although miscommunication - or perhaps treason - prevented the Cernorusians from coming to assist their allies, the Ugrians did not abandon their monarch, and instead attacked with vigour, securing several far eastern Mordvin cities, including the trade center of Mihasary (-1 Mordvin Trade, +1 Ugrian banked eco.). They then used their formidable riverine fleet and rebellions amongst the eastern Ugrians (more related to the Archalite Ugrians than to the Mordvin ones) to secure the northern bank of Itil. Though a year later the Mordvins literally cut off and crushed the main Ugrian force (negating most of the later gains), it proved a considerable distraction; it wasn't enough for the Onoghurians to take the exquisitely well-fortified and surprisingly well-supplied Mordvin capital, but it did allow them to brace themselves and eventually beat back the attackers, tightening the ring around Valdakva whilst making a few gains further north as well. Though other wars may be ending, this one is only beginning.
(-36 Mordvin thousands, -4 Mordvin Kantir thousands, -27 Onoghurian thousands, -3 Onoghurian Onoghurets thousands, -24 Ugrian thousands, -1 Ugrian ship)
As if solely to prove that they have not abandoned their conquering ways after the concessions in Berberia, the Wagadou invaded and quickly overran the lands of the few remaining independent Mande tribes. The conquered area was quickly integrated into the Empire.
(-2 Wagadou thousands)
Steadily the Lucans had expelled the Berbers from the slightly, if painfully, shrunken Lucan North African colonial empire.
(-1 Lucan thousand, -1 Lucan Companion Cavalry thousands)
As soon as the Lucans vacated Egypt (see spotlight) the region briefly collapsed into chaos... but was brought out of it by a dual Nubian and Phoenician intervention. Though the Nubians seemed to have some designs on nearby Egyptian territory, they were ultimately dissuaded by the Phoenicians, and appeased when Khufu, the wealthy and charismatic nobleman that the Phoenicians picked to be the new Pharaoh, agreed to marry a Nubian princess. Still, there was some fighting to be done before the various petty warlords were pacified.
(-2 Phoenician thousands, -2 Nubian thousands, -1 Egyptian thousand)
After that, the Nubians and the Egypto-Phoenicians initiated two separate westwards campaigns to subdue the (fortunately-weakened) Berbers and Furians. Employing camelry and local defectors (+2 Egyptian, +5 Nubian levy thousands), the invaders quickly advanced through the desert, securing key points. The Nubian carrot and stick and divide and conquer tactics soon allowed Marsis to finally reclaim Nubia's far west; though the Egyptians had a harder time of it, both due to better Berber organisation and due to their insistance on massacring entire tribes in revenge for the Nile invasion, they too had with time more-or-less reclaimed their old lands, though they did have to scale down their avenging activities.
(-1 Phoenician thousand, -3 Egyptian thousands, -2 Nubian thousands, -2 Nubian levy thousands)
In a slightly surprising development, the Nsigeyans now turned to the northwest for expansion, attacking the increasingly-advanced and united - and thus dangerous - Bantu tribes there. Despite fanatical resistance the Nsigeyans had put their military experience to good use, and made considerable gains.
(-6 Nsigeyan thousands)
Lucan rebellions took place - both in Luca itself (where anti-peace riots often went out of hand) and in the newly-gained Parhaen and Phoenician territories, where Lucan deserters that stayed to fight on proved particularily annoying (-2 Lucan thousands, -3 Lucan Companion Cavalry thousands). Still, the Lucans restored order comparatively quickly, and the Parhaen/Phoenician forces, though taken somewhat aback, eventually crushed the rebels or forced them into the hiding as well.
(-1 Lucan thousand, -2 Phoenician thousands, -3 Parhaen thousands)
A grand Parhaen army, freed up by the Treaty of Byblos, invaded Arabia, where the rebellion continued to escalate. Despite poor Parhaen logistics and crafty Israeli tactics that caused outrageously-high casualties, the Parhaens overrun the rebels with sheer numbers and ruthlessness, "pacifying" oasis after oasis. By now the rebellion has been all but crippled, except in a barren area to the southeast where the last rebel forces had gathered.
(-7 Parhaen thousands, -7 Parhaen Eternal Legions)
Numerous isolated Indian uprisings have been crushed by the Oceanics/Khmers over the years; most of these were done by warbands and peasants, and never posed a real threat, but a conspiracy of the some of the Gangetic lords actually scored notable local successes until most of its leadership was literally decapitated and the main Oceanic forces arrived; the rebellion was crushed soon after, but it may well be merely a prelude to a greater rising. Several lesser conspiracies - including one in Kalinga itself - have been nipped more-or-less in the bud.
(-2 Oceanic thousands)
Random Events:
The Cernorusians are exultant over their recent victories (+1 Cernorusian Confidence).
Colonisation of Tinhtunam and Kaodin picks up pace (+1 Khmer Economy).
Promises of war, plunder and prestige draw in many more Berber volunteers into the Wagadou camelry, in spite (or perhaps even because) of the concessions in Berberia (+10 Wagadou UU).
Rumours about "inquisitionary excesses" and religious repression in Gaul spread widely amongst the world's trade centers, especially thanks to the Nevasanghist Gaelic refugees and merchants (-1 Gaelic Prestige).
Storms tear at the somewhat-neglected Parhaen fleet (-10 Parhaen ships).
An outbreak of bubonic plague (not quite as bad as the pandemics of a few decades ago, but still pretty nasty) occurs in Algonquia, reaching into borderline Wabanaki, Nortuguese and Adenan territories to a lesser extent (-1 Algonquian Economy).
Special Bonuses:
Best Stories: Oceanic Empire (+1 project progress).
Most Persistant: Dacoillyrian Empire (+1 Confidence).
Earliest Orders: Mordvin Empire (+1 Efficiency).
Spotlight:
Dawn of Peace.
"That wave which has risen must recede."
- Zeimocles, Dacoillyrian poet. Year 378 AD.
The world was never a particularily peaceful place, and nothing ever changed that. But there were some ages that were more warful[5], and some that were comparatively peaceful and serene.
The 5th Century, for instance, was thus far one of the bloodiest and violent centuries known to man, matched only by this era's 1st Century. From its very start, vicious wars raged; at first, the comparatively small-scale elimination of Guangala, Hellas and Brigantea - weak and isolated states that were unable to defend themselves or to find war allies; but later, the bigger wars begun as well, raging for decades, with millions dead and some of the world's greatest cities depopulated and razed. And though the 1st Century saw a greater percentage of destruction and death, there were more soldiers in the armies nowadays, more ships in the fleets and more innocent bystanders in the cities.
In the New World, one of the world's most ancient empires, Olmecia, had simply ceased to be under the pressure of many factors and unfortunate events; so had younger states like Aztlan and Guangala. And meanwhile, greater colonial empires arose; and if the Dukunnugeyan one was based on trade, diplomacy and proselytism, then the Nortuguese one is most famous for the infamous "death-marches" of the Nortuguese army that slaughtered all who dared come in its path, clearing the path for future colonists. And the colonial competition, though only really spilling out into warfare once, has also often been as brutal as any war.
In the Atlantic, the fighting is still not over now, in 450 AD. The struggle between the Nortuguese (and allied) and Carthaginian fleets may be over, but the Nortuguese still do have to fight in their quest for Atlantic hegemony, and there seems to be no real end in sight; though the Nortuguese keep sinking Solist fleets, the Pact Invictus keeps rebuilding them, and getting more and more audacious, whereas the Nortuguese seem to be growing tired, especially after their very homeland was briefly invaded and thoroughly devastated.
In northern Europe, things were little better. Brigantea and Tarunia were destroyed quickly enough, and the empires of Caledonia, Nordrike and Mordvinia gained ascendancy. The former wasted its time and resources in a fruitless war with the Iceni Empire, and later was weakened enough for it to be defeated by the Nordrikians, who even now fight the Solist world in alliance with Nortugal. And meanwhile, the Mordvin Empire itself recently came under attack. Further south, Frankreich was twice destroyed, and Wenedia rose to prominence; east of that, Cernorus fought first the Wenedians and now the Dacoillyrians, the latter more succesfully and in alliance with another rising power - the Onoghurian Bulgharia. But to it we will come back later.
Africa saw states and empires rise to consume lesser tribes and protostates, occasionally imploding, whilst the great colonial empires - Sri Dukunnugeya and Nortugal, after the fall of Carthage - expanded to their leisure, occasionally picking up the pieces. And Egypt once again was a battlefield for various foreign invasions and local factions, as seems to be its fate in every such era.
In the Indian Ocean, a trully dramatic war occured, for Sindhu - formerly Aryavarta, formerly Kalinga - had finally decided to reconquer Sri Dukunnugeya, which had by then become a great power in its own right. And that immediately got Sindhu into a war with a wide coalition of virtually all of its neighbours. Parhaen and Tieh Chinese forces overran the Indus Valley, the Khmers inspired a rebellion in Kalinga and entered the Gangetic Plain and the Dukunnugeyans attacked in Africa, whilst the Sindhese fleet was wiped out in an epic naval campaign. The Far East was actually in peace, but that was probably because the Khmers were expanding to the south and the southwest, the Tieh Chinese reached westwards to partition Turan in Central Asia (with Ugria and Bulgharia), and the Nihonese were building one of the three most important New World colonial empires.
And yet, the world seems to be moving towards peace - whether out of exhaustion, overstretchment or satisfaction, or even moral reasons. For the New World seems to be mostly partitioned by now, with numerous treaties and accords reached between the colonial powers and between them and all the surviving natives. Though the less organised tribes and confederacies still do often become targets for Old World and New World states alike, they aren't capable of fighting proper, large-scale wars. And in the meantime, as the local populations recovered from the plague and native states begun to catch up technologically, the trade network was repaired and reinvigorated. In northern Europe, the Solists and their enemies alike seem to be increasingly exhausted, having already played many of the cards in their decks. In Africa, states and empires are consolidating. And the Sindhese Empire was already carved up between the victors, with several previous and current territorial and border agreements minimising cause for strife, at least for now.
But perhaps the most sure sign is that peace has come to the area where it was least expected - to the Bimarine Basin of the Transpoenic and Mediterranean Seas. It was never the most stable of regions, because of the destabilising and unbalancing power of Carthage, which time and again fought back grand coalitions assembled against it in the so-called Transpoenic Wars that after a while begun spilling out much further than that. The last such war - the Sixth Transpoenic War - was fought as far west as the Carib Sea, and saw lots of diplomatic maneuvering and military daring. By its end, Carthage was destroyed altogether, but a new hegemon power arose, in a way more powerful than Carthage ever was. Dacoillyria operated through alliances, trade networks and control over the strategic points all over the Bimarine to assert its power, eventually creating the highly-controversial Mediterranean Trading League, which endeavoured to optimise trade in the area - and exclude from it the various "rogue" states both within and outside of the Basin. One such state was Nortugal, against which Dacoillyria fought a phoney war in the Pillars of Hercules until the Nortuguese made it a real one and captured Kalpa, the northern Pillar. Another was Phoenicia, which Luca and Dacoillyria had attacked... and ended up in a scenario similar to the Sindhese one, as Egypt, Nubia, some Berber tribes, Khmeria, Onoghuria, Cernorus and Alania all eventually ganged up on the two, whilst their Solist allies were busy fighting Nortugal. Although the military situation didn't look so bad - or rather, both sides had some catastrophes - economically the League's situation was much worse, for the Basin was under a virtual blockade - with the Nortuguese holding one exit, the Khmers and Phoenicians blocking another and the Onoghurians barring way even into the Black Sea and its rivers. And so, after some bitter negotiations, a peace agreement was reached - the mercantilistic considerations winning over national pride, the cooler heads prevailing over the war hawks. The Dacoillyrians withdrew from the Sile Canal and ceded their lands east of the Nistru to Cernorus. The Lucans had it even harder - they withdrew from Egypt and Cyreneica, ceded Nova Nagara (to become the Free City of Didonia) and surrendered all the lands east of the Anatolian Wall to Parhae, Alania and Phoenicia; they also ceded Bosporan to Onoghuria, but quickly bought most of it back. A non-aggression pact was signed, and multilateral correlational military limitations were put into place. Reparations were paid to Phoenicia. The Council of Bimarine was assembled in Didonia to prevent future wars.
All that was controversial; in Luca, it was particularily hated. But here, too, all the sides involved were tired and unwilling to fight such an unprofitable war. And so, for the first time since the beginning of the century (when the Dacoillyrian quest for domination begun with the invasion of Hellas), peace dawns upon the Bimarine Basin.
And for better or worse, the same seems to be happening or about to happen elsewhere in the world. The chaos that swept away the old world order is receding, and a new world order is finally taking a tangible shape. The present war-cycle is drawing to a close, and the time to lick up the wounds and consolidate the gains has apparently arrived.
Then again, such guesses rarely turn out to be correct...
NPC Diplo:
OOC:
[1] Erezina is, at least, the popular name for OTL Carolina.
[2] "Nizozemska" or something similar to that means "Low Lands" or "Nether Lands" in most dialects of Wenedian.
[3] Wakai=OTL Oregon as per the original geographic definition (i.e. including OTL British Columbia).
[4] Gadir=OTL Cadiz.
[5] Neologism (or just archaism? or maybe obscurism?) for the opposite of "peaceful".
ThomAnder, should the agreement have been an officially-announced one? You never did clarify that.
Once again, sorry about any confusion or misinterpretation; I cite the same excuse I used the last turn, though. In IT orders, unlike in BT ones, vagueness is rarely if ever a virtue.
...And I know that a spotlight is more of a general summary (and a rushed one at that), for the most part. Meh, the world really does seem to be heading into Boring Times...
Speaking of those, there are several options here as I'm in one of those vacillating states again. The logical thing to do now or a turn later is indeed to start a BT, but, on one hand, there still are some issues to resolve, and some new wars might spring up as well; so perhaps there might be some point to continuing the IT for a while longer. And on a completely different hand (probably not a legit expression, that) I have had some mild disenchantment with the setting again lately, and perhaps more importantly I have SEVERAL different modernish (as in, early 20th century; I know that's not how many of you define "modern times") NES ideas (including even a real historical one, though I'm contemplating adding in a minor, but rather unlikely twist to make NESer insanity easier to explain away). They will take some time to develop, but (and that is yet another problem) I again am having unexpected free time issues, and may have to make a brief break from modding anyway (more specifically I may have to skip the next week as well - I really hate doing this, especially as it won't be the first time I've done that in this NES, but on the other hand many of you seem to be on busy/away anyway). So, yes, I again am having trouble making up my mind here, and so you may consider me open to advice.
das
Regeneration In Process
Ouch, bubonic plague, that was a really really nasty event to be struck by randomly... 
EDIT: And erez, you really need to put some effort into explanation and compensation.
EDIT2: ... and it seems you're not the only one. What, was I the only one in the whole alliance who sent orders??
EDIT: And erez, you really need to put some effort into explanation and compensation.
EDIT2: ... and it seems you're not the only one. What, was I the only one in the whole alliance who sent orders??
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
To: Nihon
From: Hong Kong
You have broken agreements with colonial expansion. We demand and explanation.
ooc: if das takes a break there is always my alt hist nes.
From: Hong Kong
You have broken agreements with colonial expansion. We demand and explanation.
ooc: if das takes a break there is always my alt hist nes.
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
@shortguy: Your dedication is underwhelming. 
I would personally support a BT at this point. It is ITNES after all.
I would personally support a BT at this point. It is ITNES after all.
MjM
Deity
A BT wouldn't be too bad now. Im out of ideas. 
Good update das!
Good update das!
Kozmos
Jew Detective
You know what I want das. I want wars, MODERN wars! Or until this nes has reach gunpowder and cannons. I'm no good with this pointy stick ****!
Since you asked for input, here goes.
First of all, stating that the world is headed towards a BT is a self-fulfilling prophecy. You really shouldn't do that, unless you want a BT, which it seems you do.
Personally, I would be very disappointed and frustrated if the game broke off for a BT now, in particular as the last update was very disappointing in many regards (not its quality mind you, just the events). As you note yourself, there is still plenty to be done all over the world, even if the - thus far -largest single problem area seems to come to peace now. Those nations hardly account for a majority of the players in this NES though, and some if not all of them would probably continue with engagements elsewhere (Phoenicia in the New World, Dacia and Luca in northern Africa).
As for a continuation, I would definitely want to see this game again after another BT. The next IT will see a lot more action over on our side to be sure, this BT has been more about survival, it's the next IT that the fun starts for real. That said, if you feel you want a break, and want to mod something else in between, or perhaps even just play for a while, I have absolutely no problems understanding or accepting that. The last thing we want is a mod who doesn't like his game, it will invariably spill over on update quality. But please, don't kill this game. If there are aspects of it you're not comfortable with, you have a whole BT to remedy them.
And you really shouldn't appologize for having to take a week off. You're one of two regularly updating mods, it's really surprising that this doesn't happen more often than it does. Gives us more time for planning too, from what I read in this update it seems we sorely need it...
Oh, and of course Thlayli and MjM want a BT now, they're the ones who stand to lose the most if the IT continues. Their quick support for a BT is yet another proof that there's more to this IT yet!
First of all, stating that the world is headed towards a BT is a self-fulfilling prophecy. You really shouldn't do that, unless you want a BT, which it seems you do.
Personally, I would be very disappointed and frustrated if the game broke off for a BT now, in particular as the last update was very disappointing in many regards (not its quality mind you, just the events). As you note yourself, there is still plenty to be done all over the world, even if the - thus far -largest single problem area seems to come to peace now. Those nations hardly account for a majority of the players in this NES though, and some if not all of them would probably continue with engagements elsewhere (Phoenicia in the New World, Dacia and Luca in northern Africa).
As for a continuation, I would definitely want to see this game again after another BT. The next IT will see a lot more action over on our side to be sure, this BT has been more about survival, it's the next IT that the fun starts for real. That said, if you feel you want a break, and want to mod something else in between, or perhaps even just play for a while, I have absolutely no problems understanding or accepting that. The last thing we want is a mod who doesn't like his game, it will invariably spill over on update quality. But please, don't kill this game. If there are aspects of it you're not comfortable with, you have a whole BT to remedy them.
And you really shouldn't appologize for having to take a week off. You're one of two regularly updating mods, it's really surprising that this doesn't happen more often than it does. Gives us more time for planning too, from what I read in this update it seems we sorely need it...
Oh, and of course Thlayli and MjM want a BT now, they're the ones who stand to lose the most if the IT continues. Their quick support for a BT is yet another proof that there's more to this IT yet!
ThomAnder
Deity
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das, what happened to Cernorus??? I sent the pm asking you under the assumption/in case that Azale is not active, which he isn't and assumed that you would npc for Cernorus as you would if Cernorus wasn't taken by a player. (i.e. what you did for alex in the turan campaign) Didn't you promise me that an NPC'ed Cernorus would help me in my attack? 
I also think we deserve one more turn of IT
Spoiler my query and your reply :
I also think we deserve one more turn of IT
Great update das! I'm fine with a BT... maybe you could do a mini-update for the remaining wars... or just another before a BT. But hey, it's your choice what happens in your NESing future.
Oh, just a few things about the update:
Oh, just a few things about the update:
Huh?
I thought I didn't need logistics when fighting in my own territory. Oh well, I guess I know now.
*coughs ostentatiously*
Wubba360
Emperor
To: Nordrike
From: Mordvin
My ally we call upon your aid. Please, we have been wrongfully assaulted. Help us defeat this satan that has assaulted my lands. Together, can we not fight as brethren and bring fear once more to our enemies?
From: Mordvin
My ally we call upon your aid. Please, we have been wrongfully assaulted. Help us defeat this satan that has assaulted my lands. Together, can we not fight as brethren and bring fear once more to our enemies?
Insane_Panda
Deity
One more IT turn, then a new modern NES!
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