Les Stroud vs Bear Grylls

[Mise]

Bear Grylls is the awesomest of the two on the basis that Bear Grylls is not Canadian.

 

[civ_king]

Bear Grylls is the awesomest of the two on the basis that Bear Grylls is not Canadian.

The Perfidious English are worse than the Canucks!

 

[katipunero]

Or he might have urvived for three days by having the correct survival attitude which he learned from Scouting...

i messed up my facts, but after a quick google search, voila:

Boy, nine, survives wilderness thanks to tips from Bear Grylls
by Paul Thompson

A boy of nine lost alone in the wilderness for 24 hours survived using tips learned from Bear Grylls.

Grayson Wynne knew he had to find a shelter for the night, conserve his energy and if possible leave clues for searchers, thanks to watching the British adventurer’s TV show.

He ripped up his yellow jacket and tied the pieces to trees just as he had seen on Man vs Wild, the U.S. version of Grylls’s survival programme.

Rescuers followed the markers and Grayson, who went missing when he wandered off on a family camping trip, was spotted by park rangers scouring the million-acre Ashley National Forest in Utah.

His first words when reunited with his parents Kynan and Kimberley were ‘Happy Father’s Day’.

‘I was really scared,’ he added. ‘But Man vs Wild tells you how to survive all different terrains.’

His father added: 'The thing that he recognised from the show, regardless of the circumstances you're in, you are capable of surviving.'

Inspiration: Grayson had watched British adventurer Bear Grylls's show

Grayson was among a party of 15 who had set out on a hike through the one million acre Ashley National Forest in northern Utah.

The group had planned to walk four miles to Daggett Lake, set up camp for a long weekend.

Grayson went missing on Saturday evening after wandering off on his own.

Search and rescue teams on foot, horses and mules fanned out to look for Grayson overnight. Tracker dogs were also brought in as well as helicopters.

Despite being scared Grayson remembered from Grylls show to find a place of shelter and spent the night under a fallen tree.

At daybreak he began using his bare hands to rip up his yellow rain coat and ties pieces to trees.

'I just used my hands,' said Grayson. 'I don't know how many times I tore the thing but quite a lot.'

He also accidentally dropped an energy bar wrapper and his rucksack.

Grayson told rescuers he decided to follow a creek in the hope in the hope of finding help.

Rescuers found the discarded sweet wrapper and also footprints in the mud.

When Grayson heard a helicopter overhead, he ran into a meadow and waved the last piece of his jacket.

Two searchers on horseback saw him first,and his first words to his father after being reunited were 'Happy Father's Day.'

Kimberley said: 'There were tears, lots of tears, and just happiness.'

Grylls's show Man vs Wild is among the most popular on the Discovery Channel in the US.

In the series the 35-year-old is forced to endure survival in the some of the world's toughest regions from the frozen wastes of Alaska to the Sahara Desert.

Grylls, who was the youngest Briton to climb Mount Everest at the age of 23, has made 40 episodes of the series.

Often to survive he has to build shelters from available material and eat jungle or forest creatures.

Grylls, who has faced accusations of faking some of the tricky situations he has filmed, was last month made Chief Scout of Britain.

He was the youngest person to hold the position since Scouts founder Robert Baden Powell.

not take away anything from this kid, it was only 24 hours of surviving alone in the wilderness, not three days as i first posted. but still, this kid is badass. and so is Bear.

 

[Skwink]

i messed up my facts, but after a quick google search, voila:



not take away anything from this kid, it was only 24 hours of surviving alone in the wilderness, not three days as i first posted. but still, this kid is badass. and so is Bear.

24 hours is weak.

 

[katipunero]

24 hours is weak.

surviving alone is not what makes survival experts good. the ability to get rescued as quickly and as soon as possible is also part of the entire thing. it's not a question of endurance but really of smarts.

24 hours is not weak. I would consider staying lost for a week in the wilderness weak and unsurvival-like. Thanks to the pieces of cut clothing this boy made sure to leave behind as trail and following the outline of a creek he got rescued just in time to greet his dad "a happy father's day"

 

[Dreadnought]

24 hours? You could survive 24 hours by lying in a ditch!

 

[katipunero]

24 hours? You could survive 24 hours by lying in a ditch!

the kid could have done that and got rescued eventually what with the tracking dogs out hot on his heels. in which case, it could have been 24 hours, or an extra few days before he got rescued even without all the nonsense he did by tearing up his clothing for people to find.

who knows right?

but what's important in this story is that he adopted the correct survival mindset. what would have been a traumatic and trying ordeal for any nine year old kid was a fruitful and perhaps enjoyable learning experience for this tough kid who took to the task of survival with gusto after watching Bear Grylls do it on TV.

 

[Verarde]

Les Stroud is so much better than Grylls.

 

[Winner]

The problem with Grylls is that he doesn't stress it enough that what he's showing isn't always the best thing to do when you find yourself in a similar situation. It might be fun to watch, but if untrained people actually try some of his stunts (he's an experienced climber, for Gods sake), they will die.

 

[Boundless]

I met Bear Grylls at a school event where he talked about his experiences on Everest, so for that, he wins.

 

[NickyJ]

Les Stroud because you have a picture of him holding an owl.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Les Stroud because he seems to be less full of himself than the other idiot. And if he's that guy who films himself, doubly him.

Les Stroud because you have a picture of him holding an owl.

True. Added to that, in the second picture he used that owl to start a fire.

 

[Narz]

The new show: http://lesstroud.ca/beyondsurvival/

I've only seen two episodes, but they were both pretty good. One where he joined bushmen in the Kalahari, there was a lot of him hunting in the desert heat (not easy for any Canadian), and then trying to experience a spiritual vision guided by the village shaman. Was a lot of him getting very hot, dehydrated, and tired. The second was where he was living with aboriginal peoples in the New Guinea highlands. Most notable is a scene where their hunting dog get trapped, and while we're all thinking "Oh my god that poor dog isn't going to die on TV is it?" (you can hear it crying), Les points out that they only have a few (or even just one?) dogs. Losing it would be a big loss to them. But in the end, they dig the dog out, and all is well.

As for the humor, I quite enjoyed this:

Link to video.

Cool, I'll have to check this out.

 

[Butterball]

I voted for Bear Grylls because he eats strange things on camera. Stroud is impressive since he has to heft all the camera equipment all alone. Grylls does have people with him doing all the camera work. I wish I could revote.

 

[naterator]

Les. I'm sure Bear is as impressive as his credentials would indicate, but he loses like 100 tough points for that stupid nickname. Survivorman was the better show too.

Of course the correctest answer is Mantracker, Zelig wins the thread. Knowing how to survive a week in the wilderness is nice if you need it, but Mantracker will drag you out of the woods today.

 

[Huayna Capac357]

Terry Grant has them both beat.

Who's Terry Grant?

 

[History_Buff]

Who's Terry Grant?

Mantracker. He tracks down missing people (hikers mostly) for a living.

On the show, you get a pair of people together, and you get 32 hours to travel over rough terrain to a finish point. Mantracker and a 'sidekick' tries to catch you before you get there.

You start a specific point, and you know where the end point is. Mantracker knows neither of those things. You get a map and a compass. Mantracker gets nothing. You fire a flare when you start, he starts 2km away. Mantracker usually wins, probably 3/4 of the time I'd say.

And before you go about thinking that Mantracker just follows the camera men (a common accusation), it would seem they take steps to prevent that. The camera man is professionally trained in evasion techniques, and goes out before hand to lay down extra sets of his tracks to prevent that. Many of the scenes with the prey are shot afterwards to make it more dramatic. Wikipedia says there are also occasionally dummy teams sent out, and Terry has said his crew sometimes makes him demonstrate what tracks he sees to make him prove what he's doing.

This particular episode is 32km through the coulees of Saskatchewan, against two Ontario Police Officers with 'tactical training', presumably SWAT team stuff.


Link to video.

This one is kind of light on the tracking, since it's so open, but it's a good episode. Also, the camo and radios are atypical.

 

[phoenix_sprite]

It was a though choice but I went with Les here, even though I'm more familiar with Bear. Les is more badass. Also, I was kinda left speechless when I saw this in a Game Stop:

 

[LucyDuke]

-1 Bear Grylls

TV adventurer Bear Grylls, star of the survival show Man vs. Wild, has been sacked by the Discovery Channel.

The US channel said: "Due to a continuing contractual dispute with Bear Grylls, Discovery has terminated all current productions with him."

Grylls, who has presented the show since 2006, is known for eating insects and drinking animal urine in the wild.

His publicist confirmed the move saying they could not reach a "mutual agreement on new programming".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-17364327

 

[Tycho Brahe]

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