Let them fight

[RedWolf]

My greatest regret about war is the waste of GOOD humans, patriots, while much of the trash we have nowadays sits at home berating our soldiers. That's why I like theocracies: the government gets EVERYONE working on a war, instead of the lopsided system that many Western countries have now.

Sorry for being trash and not believing that violence solves problems. Maybe if more people believed that we wouldn't have such problems?

Maybe those who volunteer for it without questioning why are PART of the problem? On ALL sides?

What if we had a war and nobody showed up? Of course that's hopelessly naive - somebody will ALWAYS show up - and maybe THATS why we're doomed to repeat it again and again?

 

[Narz]

Yeah but at least they got it out of their system. In order for a war to end, it has to begin first.

It's good that guy murdered his wife, his new wife can feel safer that he got it out of his system.

Haven't you ever heard that prevention is the best medicine.

Oh wait, I forgot, you're our resident fatalist.

 

[PrinceOfLeigh]

When your security is guaranteed by a powerful ally, you can afford to not have much of a military.

I think you're being a bit unfair there Bozo, to both Japan and the Swiss. Both have a very good defensive military, I'll conceed your point on the Germans however.

I have to agree with TLC, there are too many examples of people being led into a war on the back of festering hate or injustice remaining from the previous one. The Balkans being at least one example.

 

[Sidhe]

Not countries, but Individuals, who have no connections to any one nation or empire.

They pull the strings, and make the personal fortunes, regardless of the rise or fall of states.

Think bigger than the boundaries of a map, or the TV screen.

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Oh you mean the Iluminati, I thought you were talking about the civil service or in Bushes case the puppet masters in the white house. Point taken, even though the illuminati theories are easy to dismiss IMO.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

This is surreal. Any number of wars, including WWI and WWII, have been fought wholly or partly because a previous war failed to settle matters.

(I'm not saying wars never settle matters - they sometimes do. But to pretend they always do is preposterous.)

Agreed. Which is why I never said that they always solve problems. Perfect example of a war that causes more problems than it solves: the current one in Iraq. As far as Somalia situation is concerned, why on Earth would we want to stand in the way of Islamic Courts defeating the warlords on the battlefield and consolidating their hold on the country? Just because theyre Islamic? The West backs a faction with no power on the ground, and little support from the Somali people, that to me is what seems surreal.

It's good that guy murdered his wife, his new wife can feel safer that he got it out of his system.

Apples and oranges

Haven't you ever heard that prevention is the best medicine.

Sometimes it is, sometimes it isnt.

Oh wait, I forgot, you're our resident fatalist.

Yes, it was inevitable.

I think you're being a bit unfair there Bozo, to both Japan and the Swiss. Both have a very good defensive military, I'll conceed your point on the Germans however.

Its true, Japan has a respectable military, the Swiss, I dunno, I'll take your word for it.

I have to agree with TLC, there are too many examples of people being led into a war on the back of festering hate or injustice remaining from the previous one. The Balkans being at least one example.

Yes. But there are also many examples in history where a war was fought, one side emerged victorious, and people moved on.


BTW Last, as far as WW2, as far as I know, its the inept leadership during the peacetime between the wars that created WW2, not WW1.

 

[Sidhe]

Nah it was in large part due to the treaty of Versailles signed after the first world war which stifled Germany's ability to recover by making outrageous war reperations. Google it if you doubt my authoritah.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

Nah it was in large part due to the treaty of Versailles signed after the first world war which stifled Germany's ability to recover by making outrageous war reperations.

Oh yeah, even I know that Thats part of the crummy post war leadership Im talking about.

Google it if you doubt my authoritah.

Of course I dont Cartman

 

[IglooDame]

I'm a big fan of duels.

Me too, but only because I've got much-better-than-average pistol skills.

 

[Godwynn]

Me too, but only because I've got much-better-than-average pistol skills.

I have no skill with pistols. But I would like a duel where we launch spears at each other from 10 yards apart.

 

[Akka]

So basically, Bozo, you're wondering why we aren't using the good ol' "might makes right" ?
Well, isn't the obviousness of "might isn't necessarily right" sufficient ?

Urederra has acutally successfully showed how idiotic it is to "let them fight and the problem will be resolved". Funnily enough, his post was ignored

 

[Bozo Erectus]

So basically, Bozo, you're wondering why we aren't using the good ol' "might makes right" ?
Well, isn't the obviousness of "might isn't necessarily right" sufficient ?

I said nothing about might making right, all Ive been saying is that in many cases, 'conflict prevention' doesnt equate with 'conflict resolution'.

Urederra has acutally successfully showed how idiotic it is to "let them fight and the problem will be resolved". Funnily enough, his post was ignored

Ok, lets take a look at it.

I can argue that the Earth is flat, If I am much stronger than you, no matter how many facts you show to me, I am not going to recognize that you have convinced me. Then, as we cannot reach an agreement, we fight, I shake your skeleton a little, I win, and the issue is settled once and for all: The Earth is flat.

Not a good method, IMHO.

I agree not a good method at all, and it has nothing to do with what Im talking about. Im talking about war, not about which side in any given confict may happen to be right or wrong as far as we're concerned.

 

[Ayatollah So]

This is surreal. Any number of wars, including WWI and WWII, have been fought wholly or partly because a previous war failed to settle matters.

(I'm not saying wars never settle matters - they sometimes do. But to pretend they always do is preposterous.)

'Zactly. And though one can't say that wars never settle things, it's safe to say that Balkan wars never settle things

On a more serious note, wars perpetrate lots of psychological damage on some survivors that then gets passed down through the generations. Instead of getting violence "out of someone's system", it tends to get it in.