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How much American news media do you consume out of interest?
Liberal Bias in the Media
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How much American news media do you consume out of interest?
Traitorfish
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About as much as the average European, I expect, maybe slightly more. Mostly in passing; the only stuff I keep regular track of wears its left-wing "biases" on its sleeve.
Quackers
The Frog
So you actually go out of your way to read CNN online etc?
..odd because the only american news media I ever read is a link from these forums!
..odd because the only american news media I ever read is a link from these forums!
Cheezy the Wiz
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Heh, CNN as a liberal bastion is a funny idea.
Crezth
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CNN thinks the rich should pay a few taxes, they are virtually communist.
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Thank goodness we have such deep comments being made...
CNN is rather centrist, with a slight left lean in my opinion... then, moving right, we jump to FN, which is quite right... we don't really have a moderate right wing network.
Prediction, someone will take this as a time to tell me how CNN is that moderate right wing network.
CNN is rather centrist, with a slight left lean in my opinion... then, moving right, we jump to FN, which is quite right... we don't really have a moderate right wing network.
Prediction, someone will take this as a time to tell me how CNN is that moderate right wing network.
Crezth
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Right/Left is harshly skewed in America, the "Left" that is commonly demonized (by conservatives) in America can hardly be described as such in any frame of reference outside of America c. 2012.
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Thanks for fulfilling my prophecy. It was only through sheer genius that I could predict such a thing.
You guys remember that!
You are right, we are virtually on the verge of becoming the 4th Reich.
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Crezth
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For the record, that's a little like predicting that the sun will also rise the next morning.
I'm not criticizing anyone, I'm simply observing that any liberal bias that is observed is only seen as such because the political discourse in America is, fundamentally, shifted to the right.
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As evidenced by your opinion?
We have a dem president, a dem senate...
That isn't to the right.
I would argue that our society is way more to the left, in a good way, than it was 30 years ago... especially for minorities, women, etc.
What's your counterargument, that we have, in fact, become more right wing in the USA? Foxnews?
We have a dem president, a dem senate...
That isn't to the right.
I would argue that our society is way more to the left, in a good way, than it was 30 years ago... especially for minorities, women, etc.
What's your counterargument, that we have, in fact, become more right wing in the USA? Foxnews?
Crezth
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Democrats are a right-wing political party. Whether or not society has gravitated towards norms idealized 30 years ago in an abstract sense has nothing to do with the type of political discourse its adopted as standard.
The best evidence I can give you in a single line is that the single-payer system isn't seen as a "moderate" solution, which by all rights it certainly is.
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The best evidence you offer is 100% your opinion.
Your opinion does not set the political spectrum.
Traitorfish
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To be entirely fair, that's true of the "right/left" model as such: it's abstraction that varies depending on the political rivalries of a given country at a give time. Germany c. 1930 was neither Britain c. 1930 nor Germany c.1960. What makes the contemporary American instance of the "right/left" spectrum exceptional is that it sits so heavily to the right of kilter with the other developed nations, and of America itself in the mid-20th century.
Not his alone, no, but shared opinion is still opinion- and that's all the "political spectrum" can be reasonably described as.
Crezth
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kochman said:
It'd be called the moderate solution in any other country and in America before the 1980's.
Also Traitorfish says it far better than I could. I guess the Dems are technically left wing according to the contexts in which they are described, but nowhere else would that be the case. Hence why I say America's entire political discourse is right-shifted.
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Again, your opinion does not define the political spectrum...
You are using one thing, and ignoring ALL the advances that society has made, often via legislation.
Are we more left wing than 100 years ago? Can we at least grant that?
Doesn't really matter... believe as you like...
BvBPL
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Without reading this thread, I am lead to wonder how someone think there's a liberal bias in the media when major news networks are owned by Ted Turner, Rupert Murdoch, (formerly) Westinghouse, Disney, and Kabletown.
Crezth
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I think we're also way more business-friendly and antagonistic towards labor than other countries, which I think is right-wing. It's true that our society is more egalitarian than it was in the past, but resistances to the necessary continued liberation of oppressed groups are indicative, to me, of a regression.
Yeah, but we're more right-wing than we were, say, 50 years ago.
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Because the owners don't do the writing?
I think the only two that aim to be partisan are FN and MSNBC... the rest it just happens to be because journalists tend to be left leaning.
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You mean before the CRA and when they were interning Japanese Americans?
Good call.
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