Live and let live...

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Tigranes said:
^^ What happened to your avatar? :eek:
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Got sick of it, currently looking for new one.

Tigranes said:
And Mr. B. is the most live and let live type of person I ever met on OT. He does exactly that. How come he is talking a different language? :eek2:
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Yeah, B is like that with some confusion thrown between the two...

Gary Childress said:
Yes. I often eat two or three for breakfast or sometime something completely different. But now I realize I should eat only one egg today. I may have lunch but I am not 100% sure I will yet. I have to take it a step at a time. tomorrow I'll try to eat half an egg for breakfast maybe if I can do it.
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Sure if you need it as a diet but otherwise if you have closer look this world is generally in its nature a strugle of opposing forces not so much a preservation even thought that too is true. Doing something like cutting down the nutritients you need and then feeling good about yourself seem rather a bit deceptive although there are some very recomendable ways how to be gentle with enviroment...
 
I don't know Classical Hero. I wish I could agree with you but it's very difficult to do so. Right now people in the middle east are killing each other and the US has become entangled in that. The US is my country. I think we should just "live and let live" instead of adding to the killing. But that is just me I suppose. But you are also right Classical Hero because I don't believe Australia is involved yet. Sometimes it is necessary to let all the fools and idiots in the world make their own mistakes.

However, most of us are pretty tied to the world and fear for our own safety with all the insanity going on. Maybe that's all it is for me. Maybe I'm just afraid for me, Gary Childress. But I must will that this world be "live and let live". You can will "live and let die". That is a luxury I do not have. I won't begrudge you for your luxury.

BUT I DO NOT WANT ANOTHER WORLD WAR. I WANT PEACE. I WILL DEMAND IT FOR THE "SPOILED BRAT" THAT I AM. I AM CUTTING BACK. I AM TYPING THIS TO YOU VIA A SOLAR POWERED FLASHLIGHT WHICH I RECHARGED TODAY. I HAVE UNPLUGGED ALL THE CLOCKS IN MY PORTION OF THE HOUSE. I HAVE ONLY MY COMPUTER RUNNING. AND I WILL TURN THAT OFF SOON. EVERYONE NEEDS TO CHILL OUT. EVERYONE NEEDS TO QUIT KICKING AND SCREAMING AND FIGHTING. I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT TO DO TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN BUT THE NOISE IS INCREDIBLE. CAN'T WE LIVE AND LET LIVE. I DON'T CARE IF THE MIDDLE EAST FORMS ITS OWN COUNTRY LET THEM DO WHAT THEY WANT AT THIS POINT. LET THEM WORK IT OUT. I'VE SEEN ENOUGH OF "FOREIGN POLICY".
 
Mechanicalsalvation said:
Sure if you need it as a diet but otherwise if you have closer look this world is generally in its nature a strugle of opposing forces not so much a preservation even thought that too is true. Doing something like cutting down the nutritients you need and then feeling good about yourself seem rather a bit deceptive although there are some very recomendable ways how to be gentle with enviroment...
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What are those ways of being gentle with the environment Mechanicalsalvation? What are your recommendations? I am listening. It is not easy to live and let live.
 
Vegetarian diet would seem quite essential. But improving your consciousness (more love/less greed) is even more important. When you can spiritualise your consciousness you develop oneness with the universe and you can be of best service to everybody and everything. This cant be juts romantic feeling but most practical and powerful realisation.
 
^Well, there you go. I've never felt that this was anything but true. I don't know why anyone would imagine otherwise of me.

What can I have been saying all this while to have been so sorely misunderstood?
 
One must choose one's own path. It is not easy for most, but that is the result of others who by commission or omission, do not just "live and let live."

It is unfortunate, but an unpleasant reality. I wish no one harm. I am doing my level best to prevent such harm.
 
Mechanicalsalvation said:
Vegetarian diet would seem quite essential. But improving your consciousness (more love/less greed) is even more important. When you can spiritualise your consciousness you develop oneness with the universe and you can be of best service to everybody and everything. This cant be juts romantic feeling but most practical and powerful realisation.
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Hi Mechanicalsalvation, unfortunately it is difficult to be "spiritual" (though I don't eat meat other than eggs) when one's mind is flooded with chemicals such as Prozac and others which I won't mention.. These are prescription drugs that I am prescribed by doctors and I often question the validity of legally turning a human being into a drug addict.

Contemporary psychology is a mystery to me but I suspect it is ultimately an evil of the world. No one will allow me to go off these drugs either because they are afraid of me because I can be argumentative (though not violent) when I am off my drugs. On my drugs I'm a happy little sheep to be led (hopefully not to the wrong place :eek: )

Wish I could get off these drugs and live a truly human existence but that doesn't appear to be my destiny. :(
 
Manfred Belheim said:
This thread has got to be a joke...
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Why do you say that Manfred Belheim? What is wrong with me trying to tell everyone that it is better to LIVE AND LET LIVE than fight and attack and kill?

EDIT: Please don't underestimate that a "little mouse" such as myself may wish to live also. Or how about other little creatures out there in the world? I cannot become a spiritual being when I am on drugs. HOWEVER, maybe that is best. I live in a prison of my own mind and that is as "good as it gets" for a little mouse like me.

EDIT2: Thank you for the drugs....
 
Bugfatty300 said:
Because that's not always the best option.
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I hear your wisdom Bugfatty300. I'm trying to see why it is the best option not to live and let live but when I went off my drugs for a brief moment two days ago I suddenly had some terrible visions, visions far more terrible than anything that could happen to me alone. I will not repeat those visions to ANYONE because they are more terrible than I am able to say. But ISIS must relax. ISIS must find a point to stop and perhaps a peace can be "waged' where ISIS can do other things than kill. Look at Gaza! Did the Gaza intervention help Israel?

We must wage "peace" with ISIS and ISIS must come to know what "peace" is and why it is important and good. I would gladly give all my drugs to all the members of ISIS who wish them. These drugs have been my prison cell and I will continue to take them until ISIS stops what it is doing, killing and killing and killing....ISIS does not know what they are wishing for. They really don't...
 
Gary Childress said:
Hi Mechanicalsalvation, unfortunately it is difficult to be "spiritual" (though I don't eat meat other than eggs) when one's mind is flooded with chemicals such as Prozac and others which I won't mention.. These are prescription drugs that I am prescribed by doctors and I often question the validity of legally turning a human being into a drug addict.

Contemporary psychology is a mystery to me but I suspect it is ultimately an evil of the world. No one will allow me to go off these drugs either because they are afraid of me because I can be argumentative (though not violent) when I am off my drugs. On my drugs I'm a happy little sheep to be led (hopefully not to the wrong place :eek: )

Wish I could get off these drugs and live a truly human existence but that doesn't appear to be my destiny. :(
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Yeah man, it sucks. Drugs suck. Needing to work within the confines of our whole system sucks. But you're still living a truly human experience. Our ancestors did all kinds of drugs. Sure, not a perfectly exact, yet impersonal dose, of the same one over and over again, but that's the price we pay for the world we made.

I'd love to never have to take adderall. But I'm a better person overall with it. My posts on CFC aren't as good but I actually do stuff in the world and contribute and brighten other people's day. It also makes me physically "feel good" most of the time, which although a bit artificial, is nice. But in the end it's not about me. It's about everyone, all of us. So I take my prescription even when I don't feel like it.

I can still function off it, I suppose. I have before many times. But the variables are too frustrating. I have to get X level of exercise, eat Y diet, do Z activities, have W support, V schedule, and U ambitions etc, and even then it's tenuous. Can't let them get too high, can't let them get too low, can't be too fierce about it, can't get relaxed. Usually some kind of feedback loop gets started and the spinning top plops over.

If I'm taking wicked amazing classes, I don't need Rx. If I'm traveling to foreign places, I definitely don't need it (it becomes counter productive). The level of "interesting/scary/exciting" that I need to function normally without medications is unsustainable at the moment. So to be the best person I can be at this juncture in my life, I accept it.
 
Psychiatry is medicine. Psychology is social science.

I believe in the former... Hell, Cubans have made great strides in psychiatric medicine, because the mind is part of the body, and, yes, at times drugs help keep it working. It deals in reality.

Psychology just makes you "cope" with the world as it is, imho, versus materially dealing with reality.

No shame in needing medically-prescribed drugs.
 
Gary Childress said:
Why do you say that Manfred Belheim? What is wrong with me trying to tell everyone that it is better to LIVE AND LET LIVE than fight and attack and kill?

EDIT: Please don't underestimate that a "little mouse" such as myself may wish to live also. Or how about other little creatures out there in the world? I cannot become a spiritual being when I am on drugs. HOWEVER, maybe that is best. I live in a prison of my own mind and that is as "good as it gets" for a little mouse like me.

EDIT2: Thank you for the drugs....
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I don't know... because the OP didn't appear to be making any real point, or asking a question. Because you've told people that the thread is "not for them". Because you've posted some rather... bizarre things in all caps. And you just edited this post for the second time to type "thank you for the drugs". Small things like this make me wonder :crazyeye:
 
live and let live works well, and is a good philosophy, on an individual level, between me and my neighbour we both put up with some noise, them loud country and western music, me using power tools sometimes a little late at night, we acknowledge this and get along well...

but on a larger scale it does not work, people want to chop down old growth forests, entrench shoddy regulations on worker safety, ban the building of mosques, near their homes, (sometimes in other states) the whole minimum wage debate is basically saying "I'm rich, your poor, live and let live..."

so their are times when you have to shake things up a bit and not just let live.
 
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