Maine kampf--10th grader suspended for 10 days, due to having a water-toy gun :)

[Bugfatty300]

so... what's your point?

The point of the statement you bolded is: We were an exceptional case because the school was remote enough to safety shoot trap on its grounds proper.

Spoiler :

whereas, neighboring high schools had to field trip to public lands in the countryside to shoot skeet for that class.

 

[Mr.Evan]

I happen to live in the city bordering Lewiston, Auburn, This is a problem and the school has a midnight water gun fight. He brought his gun in case he was attacked. Funny, huh?

 

[Quintillus]

A source said the teen was disciplined after the squirt gun fell out of his backpack at the school.

That's ridiculous. I could see if he was intentionally brandishing it like it was a real gun in the school. But it sounds like it probably either was (a) for hanging out with friends after school, or (b) unintentionally left in the backpack after activities the previous day or weekend. This reminds me of the time one of my friends brought a knife to school - because he had forgotten to take it out after going camping the previous weekend. He realized it at school, but since it didn't fall out of his backpack no one else saw it and he didn't get in trouble.

Back where I went to school, one of our teachers brought a real gun to school (without ammunition), passed it around to the students, and it wasn't an issue (although to be fair, the school board itself probably wouldn't have been on board with it had it been run by them). It was a practical history lesson.

The anti-gun craze is even supported by the law and order crowd. Yesterday, I had a client arrested on a white collar offense (basically the charge is that he and his alleged co-conspirators bilked a large private corporation). We were attempting to arrange for him to turn himself in upon indictment and the government has already met with him three time (once when they raided his office and twice in voluntary sit downs where he answered government questions). They knew he was very likely no threat and would likely turn himself in. Nevertheless, as soon as they got the indictment (and before we got notice of the indictment), they decided to make a big deal of arresting him. They were waiting at his office yesterday morning with no less than 6 vehicles from no less than 4 various Federal and local law enforcement agencies dressed in protective vests and armed. The suit that was leading the investigation (no suit yesterday) got his few minutes to play cop and played it up to the hilt - violently issuing a series of contradictory commands ("get your hands up"/"don't move" - before my client had got his hands up) and making the arrest of a cooperative man a lot rougher than necessary. I know this because I was there, having followed him to his office in my vehicle for a meeting. I was actually held at gunpoint when I exited my vehicle.

We got to the first appearance before a magistrate yesterday afternoon and as expected, the government was not making a motion to have him detained pending trial (because they had no reasonable argument to demand such detention). Thus the arrest was even less of a necessity since everyone close to the case knew he would we released.

Once of the conditions of release was that he not possess any firearms pending trial. As is my usual practice, I objected to the condition, arguing that it infringed upon his 2nd amendment right to possess a firearm in his home for self defense purposes per the Heller decision and that at the very least, such an infringement should not be automatic, but the necessity of the infringement should be considered (thus an argument of common sense against the government's blanket policy of having such a condition for release). Even though the magistrate judge is a solid conservative, my argument did not get anywhere. The choice was to either give up one freedom (the right to keep and bear arms) for another (the statutory right to be free from detention pending trial) as without the gun issue, he would have clearly been released.

Stupid law-and-order types insisting on zero tolerance for gun possession by a person presumed to be innocent of any wrongdoing and only accused of a non-violent offense.

That's also ridiculous.

 

[Tee Kay]

I think the only thing more absurd than the news story is how the OP godwined his own thread at the thread title.

 

[Kyriakos]

I think the only thing more absurd than the news story is how the OP godwined his own thread at the thread title.

Yeah, but maybe the OP doesn't care about dumb 'Godwin' web nonsense

 

[Tee Kay]

Yeah, but maybe the OP doesn't care about dumb 'Godwin' web nonsense

Cool, 'cause it makes you look like this guy:

It's not even a good pun.

 

[Kyriakos]

Cool, 'cause it makes you look like this guy:

It's not even a good pun.

Uh... Ok shortie

 

[Tee Kay]

Grow up.

 

[warpus]

Why can't we have zero tolerance rules applied to the lives of politicians?

You steal an eraser from work? That's 10 years in prison.

If it works for kids, it should work for adults too.. right?

 

[madviking]

for me, the smiley face in the thread title is more disconcerting than the actual event.

 

[Kyriakos]

^I'm all smiles